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08-06-2008, 02:44 PM
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Best non-Cup winning Habs team you can recall?

In your opinion, what was the best Canadiens team that you can recall that never won a Cup?

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08-06-2008, 02:46 PM
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In your opinion, what was the best Canadiens team that you can recall that never won a Cup?
well im not very old but idd say 89 when they lost against calgary in the finals.

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The ones coached by Pat Burns in the late 80's

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The one in 1980 that could have added a fifth cup in a row, and lost to Minnesota in the quarter finals.

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I'm only 17, so it has to be last season's team.

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I`ve only been watching since 02`03...soo..last year`s team

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In your opinion, what was the best Canadiens team that you can recall that never won a Cup?
The 1989 Habs. Patrick Roy was 24-0-2 at one point during the season at the Forum too


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The 79-80 Habs look like a good choice. Great seasons there from Flower, Shutt, Larouche and Robinson. I guess Pete Mahovlich and Jacques Lemaire had already moved on by then, perhaps they were one forward away from getting that fifth ring.

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The 79-80 Habs look like a good choice. Great seasons there from Flower, Shutt, Larouche and Robinson. I guess Pete Mahovlich and Jacques Lemaire had already moved on by then, perhaps they were one forward away from getting that fifth ring.
This one and the 1989 loss to Calgary were the two best non cup winning teams IMO.

Edit: You can also minus Dryden from the 79-80 team.

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I think it has to be 1989 team even though I was 3 years old and can't ''recall it''. Didn't they have 115 points? Unbeatable at home too. That was the the best Habs team between 1980 and now.

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This one and the 1989 loss to Calgary were the two best non cup winning teams IMO.

Edit: You can also minus Dryden from the 79-80 team.
Weren't BOTH Lafleur and Larouche missing versus Minnesota and both scored 50 goals that year?

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Yup, 1989 was the best one I remember that did not win it.

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Weren't BOTH Lafleur and Larouche missing versus Minnesota and both scored 50 goals that year?
Oh you're making me rack my brain. I believe but don't quote me that both were injured against Minnesota. But I can't remember if they missed the whole series, or just parts of it.

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I think it has to be 1989 team even though I was 3 years old and can't ''recall it''. Didn't they have 115 points? Unbeatable at home too. That was the the best Habs team between 1980 and now.
Yes that was a great team, but Calgary was also quite impressive. Even though we lost that one, it was an incredible series

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I am too young to remember 79-80. So from what I've seen I gotta go with '89 as well.

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Last year's team was a pretty good one but no experience. The 1989 team, like most people said, had experience and loads of talent...too bad Calgary had to ruin it.

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Can't wait to hear from mcphee about the great teams of the 20s that lost.

I had this discussion with my Dad not so long ago, and he said 75 was the biggest disappointment because they just couldn't get it done on the road. Look at the scoreline over the series:

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Series J                      W  L   GF   GA
  Buffalo Sabres              4  2   21   29
  Montreal Canadiens          2  4   29   21
   
  Apr 27    Montreal Canadiens   5   6  at Buffalo Sabres  00:04:42 OT
  Apr 29    Montreal Canadiens   2   4  at Buffalo Sabres
  May 1         Buffalo Sabres   0   7  at Montreal Canadiens
  May 3         Buffalo Sabres   2   8  at Montreal Canadiens
  May 6     Montreal Canadiens   4   5  at Buffalo Sabres  00:05:56 OT
  May 8         Buffalo Sabres   4   3  at Montreal Canadiens

  Buffalo Sabres win series 4 games to 2

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A lot of ppl already said it, but the 1989 team.

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I was 5 in 1989, but I remember that watching the final and crying when the Habs lost game 6.

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I was 5 in 1989, but I remember that watching the final and crying when the Habs lost game 6.
I was 13 but I still can remember the heartbreak when Lanny McDonald came down the wing and fired one over Roy's shoulder, I knew it was over then. I was so pumped for the '89 cup run cause I was just getting into hockey for the '86 cup so I thought '89 was going to be my first real cup win. Oh well, they made up for it in '93 the best cup run I ever saw.

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I am too young to remember 79-80. So from what I've seen I gotta go with '89 as well.
Both good teams, the 79-80 team was burned out from so many Cup runs though. Many, many injuries on that team. And the goaltending wasn't so hot. When Lafleur got hurt in the playoffs, that was the end of the dynasty. We would have run into the Islanders at some point anyway and we weren't in top form (they were).

The 88-89 team should have won the Cup. That's the best team that hasn't won in my memory.

But from what I've read, the 1945 Canadiens were heavily favored to win and were upset. The 1955 Canadiens probably would have won if the Rocket wasn't suspended. The '54 Canadiens lost in game 7 of the finals in OT on a fluke goal. In fact, if not for a couple bounces, the Canadiens could have won the Cup from 53-61.

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The ones coached by Pat Burns in the late 80's

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The one in 1980 that could have added a fifth cup in a row, and lost to Minnesota in the quarter finals.
I disagree. By that time the Habs had lost Pollock, Bowman, Dryden, and Lemaire, they were showing the effects of several years of indifferent drafting, and the Islanders as well as the Oilers were coming on strong.

My nominee since 1980 would be the team that lost to the Flames in the 1989 finals.

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The 81-82 team was even better than the previous two seasons performances but ended in another playoff failure in a 5 game defeat to the Nords (who had a barely over .500 record while the Habs were 29 games over with 109 pts.). The scoring was pretty balanced with some newer stars like Napier and Acton providing scoring punch. But its strength was in net (Wamsley, Sevigny, Herron) and on D (Engblom-Langway had insane +/- that year). Add in the old vets like Shutt, Lafleur (declining though), Robinson, Houle, Tremblay, Risebrough, Jarvis, Gainey and Mondou and it's amazing they were so overcome by the inferior-talented (but younger) Nordiques.

The 82 disappointment saw Riser cut loose but they also were forced to deal Langway due to his wish to move back to his home country for tax purposes. For some reason, the idiot Grundman also tossed in Craig Laughlin, Jarvis and Engblom just to get Rick Green and Ryan Walter. The value of those two was somewhat overrated then (probably because they had both been 1st round draft picks, Green going #1 overall in 1976) but they remained Habs for another 8 years (9 for Walter).

Despite never being great offensively they were solid pieces and the trade wasn't as bad as it could have been. Sure Langway became a Norris winner but Engblom sort of flamed out, got dealt to the Kings and was out of the league within 5 years, Laughlin was never more than a role player and Jarvis' prime was almost over (plus his defensive and faceoff abilities weren't too missed). Meanwhile, the time to usher in youngsters was imperative so Carbonneau, Naslund, Mark Hunter, Wickenheiser (our most infamous bust ever) and Ludwig eventually became full-timers for 82-83.

The 81-82 team finished 3rd in the whole league (behind the Isles and Oilers) and finished 1st in defense (230 GA in the highest scoring post-war season in the NHL) and 2nd in offense (360 markers just behind the Isles 385). The 89 team was also pretty dominant, especially on defense of course. Any other year and they'd win but the Flames were even better. Also, those 54 and 55 teams were special plus the 1945 team got stymied by Frank McCool for the Leafs. The Habs also had a few real good teams from 1960-63 but lost in the semi-finals each time. The 75 and 72 teams were also quite good. The 1987-88 team finished 2nd in the league to Calgary but finally got solved by the Bruins.


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The 2000-2001 team

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I'm only 17, so it has to be last season's team.
Man I feel sorry for guys of your age. You haven't seen any good hockey in played in Montreal your entire life until last season.

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1989 against Calgary,I was 9 but still remember crying seing McDonald raising the cup for the Flames

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Weren't BOTH Lafleur and Larouche missing versus Minnesota and both scored 50 goals that year?
I believe the Habs were missing something like 8 or 9 regulars in that series. But even with good health, IMO with Herron and Laroque in net, the Habs wouldn't have been able to beat the Isles or Flyers that year. IMO the Habs screwed up when they didn't pick up Chico Resch when the Isles decided to trade him.

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