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08-06-2008, 01:20 PM
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It may be time to mention the new DEL-rosters, at least those which are complete by now.

Here are the Hamburg Freezers:

Vitalij Aab - Peter Sarno - John Tripp
Francois Fortier - Alexander Barta - Brad Smyth
Travis Brigley - Clarke Wilm - Jason Pinizzotto
Thomas Pielmeier - Marcus Sommerfeld - Richard Mueller

Paul Manning - Jere Karalahti
Sean Blanchard - Andy Delmore
Rob Leask - Stephan Retzer
Daniel Sevo - Max Schmidle (forward)

Jean-Marc Pelletier
Tobias Güttner


Wasn't really all that thrilled about the new season, but as training started a few days ago, it changed quite a bit. Right now I can't wait to see the season start. Hopefully the team plays more like the one that finished the regular season and not like the one which did absolutely nothing for most of the season. Bigger attendance would also be nice, though I doubt that last year did much to increase the interest

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08-06-2008, 02:16 PM
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@Sanderson:
Did you have a chance to attend one of the training sessions? If so, how does Karalahti look like? Did he report to training camp in shape?
Moreover I'd like to know, who will replace Alex Barta at the start of the season? Are the Freezers really that short up-front or are there any other prospects, who will warm the bench for most of the season?

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08-07-2008, 04:40 AM
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No, I wasn't in Hamburg for the first few days of training and now they have left the city for a training camp in Füssen.

I think I remember Karalahti saying that it should take some time to get in perfect shape, though I can't find the article right now. Going by what the fans who did see the training said, he is in good shape. It may not be the shape he thinks he needs, but he definately isn't out of shape.

As for who will replace Barta, I guess Schmidle will take the place on the 4th line while Mueller moves into the top 9. The Freezers didn't have much depth last season either. It was 12 forwards plus Schmidle and Driendl as FL, but those two weren't avaiable all the time.

Right now, Daniel Huhn is on a one month tryout. He seems to be the only additional player.
I'd prefer more depth, but then again, many DEL-teams only use those four lines and are down to three or less if injuries occur.

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08-07-2008, 09:06 AM
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here's the new kassel huskies line-up

ryan kraft - alex leavitt - martin bartek
shawn mcneil - hugo boisvert - manuel klinge
jacek plachta - mark kosick - colin beardsmore
thorben saggau - steve palmer - michael christ
ex: alexander heinrich

??? - ryan gaucher
mike pellegrims - drew bannister
dominic auger - brad burym
ex: semen glusanok

boris rousson
sebastian elwing

the huskies are still looking for a defensive minded 1st line defender. but shawn mcneil came back from his vacation with rheumatism and although resuming with practice soon, he's a bit of a question mark.
i expect the huskies to sign at least another 2-3 players.

personally, i think this is the slowest and worst skating defense in the whole league. i can't see them making any noise. but we'll see.

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08-07-2008, 09:47 AM
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Now that Duisburg finally managed to improve its roster, Kassel seems bound to take their spot as league's cannon fodder. This line-up looks like an above-average Bundesliga squad and barring major improvements competes for the title 'worst DEL-line-up ever'.

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08-07-2008, 09:55 AM
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Now that Duisburg finally managed to improve its roster, Kassel seems bound to take their spot as league's cannon fodder. This line-up looks like an above-average Bundesliga squad and barring major improvements competes for the title 'worst DEL-line-up ever'.
i hope that this season will prove that i was right about richer/lippe. they don't have any clue about what they are doing.

alex leavitt might surprise, he has talent. but getting bartek/auger from 2nd-tier and signing a guy who was too slow for the austrian league with gaucher...i don't really get it.

mcneil, boisvert, klinge, kraft will do ok as usual. i'm even fine with bannister and pellegrims. young guys like christ, glusanok, heinrich...ok. but seriously...palmer, burym, plachta, kosick...

a 1st line defender will make it better, but not than much. and i don't think they will sign a fast skating scorer.

they won't end up last, they won't get pushed around, but that's it.

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08-07-2008, 02:01 PM
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Barta-Mayr-Grygiel
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08-07-2008, 10:30 PM
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Nuremberg:

Fical-Swanson-Savage
King-G Leeb-B Leeb
Polaczek-Carter-Keller
Barta-Mayr-Grygiel
Francz

Periard-Nasreddine
Jarrett-Ancicka
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Cespiva

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Polaczek will miss the first 17 games of the season due to suspension.

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08-08-2008, 03:27 AM
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as replacement for shawn mcneil, who is out indefinately, the huskies signed sean tallaire.
i'm not sure if i like it, but at least he's a proven DELer.

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08-08-2008, 04:28 AM
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He will not make them a PO-contender on his own, but he is the best forward apart from maybe Ryan Kraft and Alex Leavitt on the current roster.

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He will not make them a PO-contender on his own, but he is the best forward apart from maybe Ryan Kraft and Alex Leavitt on the current roster.
it is unrealistic to jump from 2nd-tier to DEL POs. no one really expects this.

and leavitt? hmm...he killed himself everywhere he played.

and you forgot klinge. i think he should be one of the best forwards on this team.

now we need 8-9 other guys and i'm confident it will be a good season.

btw: i looked at the rosters of straubing, duisburg and wolfsburg. i can't see that they are any better than the huskies. these are the teams #13 to #16 the upcoming season.

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08-08-2008, 06:18 AM
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Haven't read and seen anything about/from Leavitt yet, so I am not sure how to rate him and gave him the advantage of doubt.

As for the other teams, Duisburg has a scary first line (by their standards), if Lebeau stays healthy, while Wolfsburg and Straubing look more solid on paper.

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08-09-2008, 08:53 AM
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Berlin:

Robinson - Pederson - Walker
Busch - Ustorf - Felski
Rankel - Beaufait - Mulock
Ostwald - A. Weiß - Braun
Flynn - D. Weiß

Quint - Hördler
Roach - Baxmann
Regehr - Smith
Kramer - Stein

Zepp
Ziffzer
Albrecht


+ theoretically all the German players from their OL-Team (in reality they won't play in the DEL, but if necessary they could)

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08-09-2008, 09:40 AM
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Do you respectively Jackson/Lee really count on Busch?

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As for the other teams, Duisburg has a scary first line (by their standards), if Lebeau stays healthy
well, lebeau was cut today.

the huskies defeated ingolstadt 4-2 yesterdey, especially leavitt looked promising. and it was said they have a verbal agreement with a canadian defender. they are just waiting for his signature.

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Do you respectively Jackson/Lee really count on Busch?
Me? No, I don't. But Busch is part of the team, so I listed him. I don't know if Jackson/Lee count on him.
I guess we'll have to wait and see...
(I heard a rumor, that there will be a decision on Wednesday, but don't know if it's true)

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08-10-2008, 04:08 PM
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huskies signed two new defensemen. dustin wood, who played in ingolstadt last season and bryan schmidt.

wood looked pretty good last season, he's a good signing. i know nothing about bryan schmidt though. he seems to be the stay-at-home guy they wanted.

looks like the roster is complete now.

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huskies signed two new defensemen. dustin wood, who played in ingolstadt last season and bryan schmidt.

wood looked pretty good last season, he's a good signing. i know nothing about bryan schmidt though. he seems to be the stay-at-home guy they wanted.

looks like the roster is complete now.
Schmidt is really more of a two-way defenseman but his offense doesn't really carry in better leagues talent-wise. In the ECHL last year he was one of the league's top defensemen, and in the AHL he was a solid defender but didn't really wow me offensively. Of course, his ice time was also limited, but he still got 4 goals in 44 games.

He's a good guy for the 2nd or 3rd pairing, but if you're expecting to be a competitive team, you don't want him playing top four minutes unless your team is having injury problems in the back end.

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He's a good guy for the 2nd or 3rd pairing, but if you're expecting to be a competitive team, you don't want him playing top four minutes unless your team is having injury problems in the back end.
the team won't be competitive. snoil expects last place, i expect 12th or so.
sometimes players of the echl/ahl level succeed in the del. wouldn't be surprising if schmidt gets better here. and he will be a top4 on this team, though he might not get PP minutes. i think they signed him to play PK and to clean the own zone.
what you describe sounds like a solid signing for the huskies, i hope it works.

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Krefeld:

Loyns - Stephens - Vasiljevs
Blank - Payer - Pietta
Verwey - Stephenson - Hager
Driendl - Hübscher - Endrass

Heid - Fahey
Pavlikovsky - Akdag
Schopper - Milo

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Lines and Defense Pairings might look different though.

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pat lebeau rumored to sign in kassel.

snoil, would the team look better then? just a bit?

oh boy...my love for lippe/richer is not growing.

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My favourite player of all time on the DEL-team, which I despise the most.
This would most certainly lead to some schizophrenic replies in the future.

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pat lebeau rumored to sign in kassel.

snoil, would the team look better then? just a bit?

oh boy...my love for lippe/richer is not growing.
It would be a great fit...

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08-14-2008, 05:34 AM
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It may be time to mention the new DEL-rosters, at least those which are complete by now.

Here are the Hamburg Freezers:

Vitalij Aab - Peter Sarno - John Tripp
Francois Fortier - Alexander Barta - Brad Smyth
Travis Brigley - Clarke Wilm - Jason Pinizzotto
Thomas Pielmeier - Marcus Sommerfeld - Richard Mueller

Paul Manning - Jere Karalahti
Sean Blanchard - Andy Delmore
Rob Leask - Stephan Retzer
Daniel Sevo - Max Schmidle (forward)

Jean-Marc Pelletier
Tobias Güttner


Wasn't really all that thrilled about the new season, but as training started a few days ago, it changed quite a bit. Right now I can't wait to see the season start. Hopefully the team plays more like the one that finished the regular season and not like the one which did absolutely nothing for most of the season. Bigger attendance would also be nice, though I doubt that last year did much to increase the interest
I could have sworn they had re-upped with Gratton?

I better take a look at the Heft that just came out.

DEL Vorschau - seems like it's coming out a wee bit early this year!

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Krefeld:

Loyns - Stephens - Vasiljevs
Blank - Payer - Pietta
Verwey - Stephenson - Hager
Driendl - Hübscher - Endrass

Heid - Fahey
Pavlikovsky - Akdag
Schopper - Milo

Langkow
Kovacic

Lines and Defense Pairings might look different though.
Jeez Louise, I count no less than 11 German pass players (including Heid) on that team, more than half being under 23.

A recipe for success, or disaster?

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