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Originally Posted by danishh
multiple points on the same goal shouldnt matter when judging the effectiveness of a pair.
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Yet it does matter.
To carry entire plays alone and still score a goal isn't easy.
That's why you don't see plenty of Ovechkins running around.
To carry plays with another talent and score a goal is easier.
That's why clubs try to go for more talent -- because two is harder to shutdown than one.
To carry plays with two other talents and score goals is even easier.
That's why offensive depth is important & expensive -- because everyone wants one (supply & demand), and because three is harder to shutdown than two, or one.
The above shows that:
Because
teammates obviously affect goals scored in this
team game: points get awarded for their assistance.
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Originally Posted by danishh
points dont mean ****.
Goals produced do
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Points come with goals scored.
So if points mean nothing, so must the goals that come with it.
Which leaves you with assists.
If assists don't mean ****, then you've got a lot of overrated players here:
Datsyuk 31g 66a 97pts
Very good player but not the 97 pointer everyone is raving about.
Just a very good goal scorer.
Thornton 29g 67a 96pts
Couldn't crack 30 goals this year, though still a good goal scorer.
But no playmaking ability. Because passing don't mean **** in hockey. Neither does the ability to see the ice well.
Savard 22g 74a 96pts
A perennial low goal scorer. Those are last year's stats. This year, only 15 goals.
His 96 points is laughable. Goals are everything.
Campbell 8g 54a 62pts
Might only be 8 goals, but he's a defenseman. The question is why was he highly regarded in last season's deadline.
What was everyone smoking, to jump at this guy's 8 goals.
Spezza 34g 58a 92pts
One of the top goal scorers. Anything over 30 goals is good.
Not a playmaker.
Lecavalier 40g 52a 92pts
No complaints.
But 92 points don't mean ****.
Iginla 50g 48a 98pts
One of the best. Strong with the puck. Good leader. Almost the complete package.
Can't pass.
Ovechkin 65g 47a (112 non-existent pts)
Hockey is a one-man game. Everyone should score 65 goals like this guy.
It should be all about who can score the fastest, the mostest. No defense. No brawl. No goalies. Just goalz.
St. Louis 25g 58a 83pts
Goal production went down from 43 to 25.
Bad year.
/end satire.
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Originally Posted by danishh
they are going to end up being paid around 12M dollars, which is about 3-4 million dollars above market price for what the sedins bring to the table (45 goals).
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Think about this:
That high 12M figure comes from you.
Now the amount itself is irrelevant.
What's interesting is, you yourself see the Sedins fetching a huge amount of money.
If the league really was all about goals, why would a measly 22.5 goals per twin, fetch such a huge sum of cash.
Either the market for 22.5 goals is drastically overinflated..
Or you're missing something.
Just like you missed goals setup by the Sedins for others.