HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Car-wash

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
08-23-2008, 11:18 AM
  #1
Devil Dancer
Registered User
 
Devil Dancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
Posts: 12,464
vCash: 500
Car-wash

To Carolina:

Alexander Semin
Eric Fehr
Michael Neuvirth

To Washington:

Justin Williams
Brandon Sutter

Caps get short term cap relief plus a good center prospect. Carolina gets the luxury of not relying on a player rebounding from injury plus prospect depth. Plus they get a little younger, of course. Discuss.

Devil Dancer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:23 AM
  #2
Backstrom #19
Fire them all
 
Backstrom #19's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Savannah Georgia
Country: United States
Posts: 13,257
vCash: 500
No way I'd do that, especially with a division rival.

__________________
#hfbro4life
Backstrom #19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:23 AM
  #3
Blue Dot
F0rsbergFan21
 
Blue Dot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,359
vCash: 500
not the worst one i have seen. but you say they get the luxury of not relying on a player coming off injury.

semin and fehr? hello! they are always hurt

pass. justin williams is special and has a cup under his belt. semin is a special talent, but still has a lot to prove imo.

Blue Dot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:28 AM
  #4
Laus723
#CatsAreComing
 
Laus723's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Country: United States
Posts: 27,507
vCash: 500
Tell me the MAIN reason for this proposal wasn't because you just wanted to make a CarWash proposal.



__________________
Future now!
Laus723 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:29 AM
  #5
third man in
Registered User
 
third man in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Maryland
Country: United States
Posts: 2,819
vCash: 500
I don't like it either. Feel we could do better for Semin. At the very least Carolina should add more.

At least Modo got his Car/Wash thread

third man in is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:32 AM
  #6
robbiezyg
Registered User
 
robbiezyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,629
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laus723 View Post
Tell me the MAIN reason for this proposal wasn't because you just wanted to make a CarWash proposal.


my first impressions as well.. i chuckled

robbiezyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:39 AM
  #7
brs03
Coo coo ca cha!
 
brs03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Maryland
Country: United States
Posts: 12,216
vCash: 500
I wouldn't trade Semin straight up for Williams and Sutter...


Besides, you know Semin's goal totals would plummet if he didn't get the chance to ever play against Ward

brs03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 12:12 PM
  #8
Devil Dancer
Registered User
 
Devil Dancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
Posts: 12,464
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laus723 View Post
Tell me the MAIN reason for this proposal wasn't because you just wanted to make a CarWash proposal.


Guilty as charged. And it wasn't easy coming up with something that remotely made sense between these two teams.

Devil Dancer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 03:57 PM
  #9
The One Who Knocks
Registered User
 
The One Who Knocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: California
Country: England
Posts: 6,199
vCash: 500
So Carolina trades their second-best defensive forward (after Brind'Amour) who can also put up good offensive numbers and is signed to an awesome contract and a prospect expected to make the team for a mediocre goalie prospect, a guy who can't do much in the NHL, and a one-dimensional scorer. Not to mention that Carolina takes on salary when they're already over their self-imposed budget

Let's do it

The One Who Knocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 03:59 PM
  #10
Modo
Mo'Benn
 
Modo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Etobicoke
Country: Canada
Posts: 44,008
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by third man in View Post
I don't like it either. Feel we could do better for Semin. At the very least Carolina should add more.

At least Modo got his Car/Wash thread
Totally worth it.

Modo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 04:11 PM
  #11
nautikal
Registered User
 
nautikal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,492
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zach - #1 Canes Fan View Post
So Carolina trades their second-best defensive forward (after Brind'Amour) who can also put up good offensive numbers and is signed to an awesome contract and a prospect expected to make the team for a mediocre goalie prospect, a guy who can't do much in the NHL, and a one-dimensional scorer. Not to mention that Carolina takes on salary when they're already over their self-imposed budget

Let's do it
Fehr is coming off of a big injury and played quite well during the regular season and playoffs and Semin is considered by some NHL players (such as Matt Cooke) to be the most talented player in the league. If I were Carolina I'd do this instantly.

nautikal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 04:50 PM
  #12
Moses Doughty
LA's offense offends
 
Moses Doughty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Drewbacca
Country: United States
Posts: 8,200
vCash: 500
Thanks Modo now there is some lame Car-Wash thread

Moses Doughty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 10:59 PM
  #13
Canuckle
West Coast Express
 
Canuckle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,987
vCash: 500
Divisional rival deals are just fugly and unrealistic.

Canuckle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:37 PM
  #14
Modo
Mo'Benn
 
Modo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Etobicoke
Country: Canada
Posts: 44,008
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuckle View Post
Divisional rival deals are just fugly and unrealistic.
Didn't stop Dallas from making 3 of them back in 06/07, grabbing Nagy from Phoenix, Norstrom from LA, and some AHL lifer from Anaheim who I can't remember at the moment.

Didn't end up working too well for them, I reckon.

Modo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:40 PM
  #15
AK
Registered User
 
AK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 15,538
vCash: 500
Semin might be worth the whole Canes package, IMO.

Caps say no. Canes say yes.

AK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2008, 11:49 PM
  #16
voxel
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Florida
Country: United States
Posts: 11,085
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Modo View Post
Didn't stop Dallas from making 3 of them back in 06/07, grabbing Nagy from Phoenix, Norstrom from LA, and some AHL lifer from Anaheim who I can't remember at the moment.

Didn't end up working too well for them, I reckon.
Yes and No.

Nagy ended up as Riley Nash
Norstrom ended as Oscar Moller + Viktor Tikhonov(via Modry)

Dallas is very much a "win now" team although they haven't sniffed the Cup recently by making the finals.

voxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 12:21 AM
  #17
Crossbar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 48" above the ice
Posts: 5,321
vCash: 500
I accept your proposal to wash my car.

No way this trade happens IMO.

Crossbar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 01:27 AM
  #18
SumOil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: edmonton
Country: India
Posts: 375
vCash: 500
the trade is as funny as the topic....car-wash!!! lol

SumOil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 01:32 AM
  #19
SumOil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: edmonton
Country: India
Posts: 375
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Modo View Post
Didn't stop Dallas from making 3 of them back in 06/07, grabbing Nagy from Phoenix, Norstrom from LA, and some AHL lifer from Anaheim who I can't remember at the moment.

Didn't end up working too well for them, I reckon.
Phoenix and LA werent really into the the playoff picture and werent going to harm the chances of Dallas by much.
but trading on of your best players(semin) to the rival team who you are going to be fighting for a playoff spot if not the divisional leader is not that possible

SumOil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 01:52 AM
  #20
evgeni71
Registered User
 
evgeni71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,112
vCash: 500
Semin is the deal breaker in this trade.... I think it's pretty even for both teams.

evgeni71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 07:29 AM
  #21
kmart
Registered User
 
kmart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,481
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to kmart
i have never heard a lot about justin williams, what is is strength besides he can lift the cup ?
so i know one thing about semin, he has the potential to score 50 goals, thats the main reason why hes better than williams for me, but pls describe him.

kmart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 07:38 AM
  #22
britdevil
Tea with milk...
 
britdevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Internets.
Posts: 19,161
vCash: 500

britdevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 08:11 AM
  #23
OnePlusOne
 
OnePlusOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 62
vCash: 500
lol car-wash

OnePlusOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 08:52 AM
  #24
Xspyrit
Registered User
 
Xspyrit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Monterrey, Mexico
Country: Italy
Posts: 14,408
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil Dancer View Post
To Carolina:

Alexander Semin
Eric Fehr
Michael Neuvirth

To Washington:

Justin Williams
Brandon Sutter

Caps get short term cap relief plus a good center prospect. Carolina gets the luxury of not relying on a player rebounding from injury plus prospect depth. Plus they get a little younger, of course. Discuss.
You don't like Semin? And why would Wash do that? They got 1 million centers :

Nylander (3 years left), Backstrom (career?), Fedorov (1 year left), Kozlov (1 year left), Laich (3 years left), Fleischmann (2 years then RFA), Gordon (1 year then RFA)...

Justin Williams is a good young player but would you trade him straight vs Semin? I wouldn't

But anyway, it's arguably a fair deal but i don't see what Washington will gain with that...

Xspyrit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-24-2008, 10:04 AM
  #25
The One Who Knocks
Registered User
 
The One Who Knocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: California
Country: England
Posts: 6,199
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmart View Post
i have never heard a lot about justin williams, what is is strength besides he can lift the cup ?
so i know one thing about semin, he has the potential to score 50 goals, thats the main reason why hes better than williams for me, but pls describe him.
Good work ethic, huge part of Carolina's PK, physical and can grind it out along the boards, 40 goal + PPG potential, and signed to a better contract than Semin.

The One Who Knocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:06 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.