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08-22-2008, 11:18 PM
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Wood sticks...are they all the same?

At the pro shop at my local rink, they have a huge wall of wooden sticks. I'll admit, I have bought a bunch of them because they are dirt cheap, and I like to collect them.

Recently, I decided to use one during a pick up game. While I love the light feel of a composite stick, the wooden stick "felt good" in my hands, and I had a nice slapshot with it.

The sticks I have in my "collection" are I guess replicas of expensive player sticks with different curves...RBK, CCM Vectors, Easton Synergys, etc. The one I used on ice was a CCM Vector, Ovechkin curve.

My question is...are all of the wooden sticks I see pretty much the same? They are all relatively close in price ($25 - $35)...and they all feel like they weight the same...is there one kind of wood stick better than another?

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Sherwood 5030 best woody ever. ;D

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I like the Spezza sherwood and Nash TPS wood i think the flex in wood sticks are different according to the player once in awhile i like to use the good ol wood when the one piece or alum' shaft isn't working

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Sherwood 5030 best woody ever. ;D
You know what.. Alot of people say that actually, it's a very good woody indeed

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My question is...are all of the wooden sticks I see pretty much the same?
No! I got a bunch of NikeBauer woods on sale, and they are terrible. I also recently picked up a TPS for like $10, and it's OK, but not nearly as good as the Sherwoods. Those 5030s are great, especially the Crosby curves.

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I loved my One40's!

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Ok, so WHY is one wooden stick better than another?

When I look on manufacturer websites, they all have info on what's inside the stick, why it's better than others, etc...so what makes the Sher-Wood better than the "cheap" Nike sticks?

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I use fibreglass sticks with a "wood core".

They're about the same price as a high end wood stick, they don't break as easily, and they're lighter than fully wooden sticks.

I have had nothing but bad luck with Sherwood sticks... I don't think I've had a single Sherwood that's lasted more than four games.

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Ok, so WHY is one wooden stick better than another?

When I look on manufacturer websites, they all have info on what's inside the stick, why it's better than others, etc...so what makes the Sher-Wood better than the "cheap" Nike sticks?
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Ok, so WHY is one wooden stick better than another?

When I look on manufacturer websites, they all have info on what's inside the stick, why it's better than others, etc...so what makes the Sher-Wood better than the "cheap" Nike sticks?
I used to always use wood sticks playing floor hockey in college, 3-4 hours a week, so without using tape you could see the wear and tear on the blades better. I went through a good variety, would but one, use it till it wore it, then try a different kind. I bought one Nike stick, with a Federov blade, and the thing was a POS. Two or three weeks in and the blade was done. The stick I bought in my last year on the other hand, a KOHO Torpedo, survived the entire year. When I started playing ice hockey this winter and was having a hard time finding the right stick, I pulled that one out the closet and it's still going strong, even though it's been beat up to hell and has numerous chunks missing from the top.

So I'm only going by experience, but difference in quality leads to better durability on the blade. You won't notice this as much in ice hockey of course, if it even matters at all, because the blade is taped. When the blade is bare though you can easily see the wear on the bottom from impact with the ground/ice, and the wear on the top from getting hit by other sticks.

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Ok, so WHY is one wooden stick better than another?

When I look on manufacturer websites, they all have info on what's inside the stick, why it's better than others, etc...so what makes the Sher-Wood better than the "cheap" Nike sticks?
Personal preference, IMO. I have a buddy who swears NikeBauer woods are the best thing ever. I can't stand them.

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My question is...are all of the wooden sticks I see pretty much the same? They are all relatively close in price ($25 - $35)...and they all feel like they weight the same...is there one kind of wood stick better than another?
Go here: http://www.passthepuck.net/id1026.htm

This Chart might help. Plus, I designed a Lie comparison as well.

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That chart is old, so be careful of current changes to curves.

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That chart is old, so be careful of current changes to curves.
Well to be honest, I got it from The Hockey Stop. And owner allowed me to use it on my site and he told me that he just updated it. I have to take him on his word. I added the Lie chart.

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I've been using Easton Ultra Lites and they've been good to me.

Just for fun, I might pickup a something else to give it a go. But I've not had any complaints with my Eastons.

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Sher-Wood and Montreal are really the only two companies left that put any effort into their wooden sticks.

The SWD 5030 is an amazing stick, but it's not stiff enough for some people. The 7000 and 9950s are very well received as well.

Montreal uses wood with layers or inserts of carbon, fibreglass, and foam in their sticks that make them pretty light. I've used them a few times and they were comfy. I don't think they are as responsive as Sher-Woods though.

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I used to play on a competitive level when there where only wooden sticks around. There were huge differences: balance, stiffness, kickpoint, blade curve, lie... basically the same as with composite sticks.
There were differences even within the same stick model.

Back then, I would change sticks every second week, even if they were not broken. A new stick had much better response. So yes, there were differences and I assume there still are.

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Sher-Wood and Montreal are really the only two companies left that put any effort into their wooden sticks.

The SWD 5030 is an amazing stick, but it's not stiff enough for some people. The 7000 and 9950s are very well received as well.

Montreal uses wood with layers or inserts of carbon, fibreglass, and foam in their sticks that make them pretty light. I've used them a few times and they were comfy. I don't think they are as responsive as Sher-Woods though.
I second the Montreals. I do wish they would go back to making all wood sticks though.

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I use a wooden Lidstrom Easton stick and it's cool for practice etc but i've been advised by quite a few guys on the team to get a composite one piecer. I'll be looking into that!

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If you're still learning the game, I'd advise you to stick to woods for your development. Switching over to composites will mean you lose a lot of the puck feel you get from the natural resonance of wood.

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Bauer One40, Easton Classic, and Sherwood 5030 are all supposed to be about the same with the light wood core and laminate wood shaft for strength. I find the Sherwood feels a little softer than the other two. TPS also has a version which feels stiff. All the manufacturers also make stiffer/longer versions of the sticks as well.

Easton's Z-Carbon has a carbon fiber blade for durability, although some people find they snap off at the hosel. Bauer used to have a version but don't anymore.

My favorite is the Montreal 4400. It's a similar construction to the other sticks, but it's thinner and lighter, and it has more of a whippy flex feel to it. It also feels like the wood is higher quality as they last a good while. Plus their blades have ABS (plastic) along the bottom and inside so they are much more durable. Any other wood stick is way too stiff for me and the blade breaks apart after a few skates.

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I still use an old Montreal.

Good ol' dependable Monty.

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i use a wood stick for my back up stick... Bauer flexlite 10 says low kick on it and I get a much harder shot with it then other woodys I have used.

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I went on the hunt for a Montreal 4400 last week but couldn't find one. Ended up with a One40 intermediate woodie. The flex is much nicer than the One40 senior I have, and it's plenty long (actually have to cut it). Only problem is the blade torques open and slapshots are weak. Oh well, it's a backup until I can sell some more stuff for another Dolomite.

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