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08-23-2008, 11:16 PM
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Pass.

We need Chipchura and Halak this year.

Maxwell is our only offensive centre prospect.. what's the point of moving him in a deal to acquire "more centre depth"
IMO Beglund is a notch or 2 over Maxwell and NHL ready.

The point of this trade would be to get get bigger while still good offensively at center.

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08-23-2008, 11:18 PM
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I'd rather have Berglund, personally. But I'd definitely consider that deal if I could somehow be convinced of Berglund making an impact this season.
Is either under contract or ready to come over this season? Oshie obviously isn't. Backlund?
Oshie is indeed signed and will probably get time in the NHL this year, same with Berglund.

And the Blues have no prospect named Backlund

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08-23-2008, 11:19 PM
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I'd rather have Berglund, personally. But I'd definitely consider that deal if I could somehow be convinced of Berglund making an impact this season.
Is either under contract or ready to come over this season? Oshie obviously isn't. Backlund?

For Backlund to play with the Flames this season is 50/50 IMO. He dominated at our prospects camp and it seems that he even better than our 3rd/4th liners. But in the other hand, I'd rather have him develop a little bit more in Sweden or the AHL.

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08-23-2008, 11:24 PM
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Oshie is indeed signed and will probably get time in the NHL this year, same with Berglund.

And the Blues have no prospect named Backlund
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For Backlund to play with the Flames this season is 50/50 IMO. He dominated at our prospects camp and it seems that he even better than our 3rd/4th liners. But in the other hand, I'd rather have him develop a little bit more in Sweden or the AHL.
Damn. Made a fool of myself again. I was just looking at a list of center prospects, and I slipped.

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08-23-2008, 11:25 PM
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To STL: Carey Price

TO MTL: Oshie, Berglund

I'm gonna get torched on this one
But still, it gives the Canadiens two stud offensive prospects. Halak is very capable to slide into the starting position. The blues recieve their future goaltender.
i think its safe to keep Price out of any trade offers, hes not going anywhere for no one. Im pretty sure they wouldnt trade him for a guy like Kopitar who can produce 100 points a season. Potential franchise goalies are hard to come by.

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08-23-2008, 11:37 PM
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Halak, Higgins, P.K. Subban

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Berglund

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08-23-2008, 11:38 PM
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Halak, Higgins, P.K. Subban

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What do you think?
I don't think that helps Montreal nearly enough to make it worthwhile.

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08-23-2008, 11:43 PM
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Give me Oshie. Not Berglund.
No way on Oshie, Blues don't have that kind of need in goal right now. In any case, Oshie is the one forward they wouldn't deal. Not like the Blues can spare an impact centerman who's ready this year, so I guess we wouldn't be good trading partners. Btw, I do understand why you value Halak so much, he's definately a top goalie prospect and more importantly he's just an opportunity away from winning a starting job outright.

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I don't think that helps Montreal nearly enough to make it worthwhile.
No?

I haven't seen Berglund play live, ever, but I've seen highlights, read about him, and seen his numbers, and he seems like he could become a 30 goal guy, year in, year out, in the NHL.

I just don't see the Habs as losing much. Higgins is somewhat of an underachiever, a good third liner if you ask me, and Halak is a backup. Subban is just a prospect, but tough.

I think that Higgins and Halak add immediate depth in St. Louis, and Berglund is that top offensive prospect the Habs need, outside of Maxwell.

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08-23-2008, 11:49 PM
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No?

I haven't seen Berglund play live, ever, but I've seen highlights, read about him, and seen his numbers, and he seems like he could become a 30 goal guy, year in, year out, in the NHL.

I just don't see the Habs as losing much. Higgins is somewhat of an underachiever, a good third liner if you ask me, and Halak is a backup. Subban is just a prospect, but tough.

I think that Higgins and Halak add immediate depth in St. Louis, and Berglund is that top offensive prospect the Habs need, outside of Maxwell.
OMG, it seems that the constant habs proposal of Higgins are tainting his actual skillset.. if he is a 3rd liner he is probably the best 3rd liner in the NHL. Higgins is a 2nd liner with potential to become a 1st liner. IMO he's gonna have a monster year next year and people will finally shut up (habs fans included) just like Kovalev did last year.

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Higgins sounds like Stempniak.

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08-24-2008, 07:06 AM
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i think its safe to keep Price out of any trade offers, hes not going anywhere for no one. Im pretty sure they wouldnt trade him for a guy like Kopitar who can produce 100 points a season. Potential franchise goalies are hard to come by.
Except we have two.

If L.A. was offering up Kopitar.. I'd have a hard time passing it up.. though we'd need to find a backup goalie somewhere.. Khabibulin maybe?

This would never happen though because of Bernier.

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Higgins is somewhat of an underachiever, a good third liner if you ask me, and Halak is a backup.
Higgins a 3rd liner? Yeah, finishing 24th in scoring for all LWers in the NHL screams third liner.

He was also a Top-90 scoring forward (and top-100 scoring player) in the NHL.

Production wise, he's a very bottom-tier 1st liner and an incredible 2nd liner.

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Higgins sounds like Stempniak.
I'd love to acquire him.

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If People believe Higgins is a third liner, I really don't know what is a second liner anymore.

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If People believe Higgins is a third liner, I really don't know what is a second liner anymore.
Rostislav Olesz.

Anyways, if we're doing a trade with St-Louis, I rather we pay big up front and land an impact player.. hmmm... hmmm... T.J Oshie sounds perfect.

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Jaroslav Halak + 1st round pick

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I think that is extremely fair, giving Halak + 1st round pick for less then a prospect with a high potential like Oshie would be unwise, since Halak is screaming to be starting goalie in the NHL, and he has effectively shown he can manage that role.

Starting goalie = 1st line center? If any hesitation, hopefully the 1st round pick will persuade. I see Halak becoming a Vokoun type of player.

Ah the great Montreal goalers... Roy, Theodore, Vokoun, Garon, Price, Halak!

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08-24-2008, 11:00 AM
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Rostislav Olesz.

Anyways, if we're doing a trade with St-Louis, I rather we pay big up front and land an impact player.. hmmm... hmmm... T.J Oshie sounds perfect.

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Jaroslav Halak + 1st round pick

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I think that is extremely fair, giving Halak + 1st round pick for less then a prospect with a high potential like Oshie would be unwise, since Halak is screaming to be starting goalie in the NHL, and he has effectively shown he can manage that role.

Starting goalie = 1st line center? If any hesitation, hopefully the 1st round pick will persuade. I see Halak becoming a Vokoun type of player.

Ah the great Montreal goalers... Roy, Theodore, Vokoun, Garon, Price, Halak!
That's a very, very tempting offer. I'd hate to trade Oshie, and I don't see him being traded in the near future, but Halak is a very nice prospect, and a 1st round pick is icing on the cake. Not sure what'd I do, but I'd definitely consider it..

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Put down the crack pipe or the dubbie....... Because anyone who really thinks that JD and company are going to trade one of these 2 players, Oshie or Berglund, right before they put the Bluenote sweater on for the 1st time in the NHL. You are really freaking crazy. it would be a PR nightmare, especially after JD and company have been preaching rebuild from within ever since he arrived in St. Louis. And they would lose the fans really quick.

And as for any trade that would be even considered, St. Louis would have to get overpayment to even consider a trade for Oshie or Berglund. You just don't trade away the talent that these two men have. Berglund will probably start off the season as the 3rd center, and Oshie is going to start on that line with Berglund. And is going to be interesting to see how quick they move up the depth chart on this team.

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He's a tradable asset to acquire a need in the organization.
For a guy who's avatar says "drive for 25"

Trading Higgins for a younger player who wouldn't crack the Habs lineup would severely hurt their chances for a cup.

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Higgins a 3rd liner? Yeah, finishing 24th in scoring for all LWers in the NHL screams third liner.

He was also a Top-90 scoring forward (and top-100 scoring player) in the NHL.

Production wise, he's a very bottom-tier 1st liner and an incredible 2nd liner.


I'd love to acquire him.
I'm not so sure about that...Sidney Crosby / Evgeni Malkin were INCREDIBLE 2nd line players.

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Would the blues mind giving up Lemtyugov?

Lemtyugov for a 2nd?
No thanks. Lemtyugov will probably get a call up this season, and he showed good chemistry with Oshie and Berglund at the prospect camp. Not to mention most Blues fans are in love with his attitude and commitment in North America (compared to some of our past Russian prospects like Shishkanov, Shkotov)..

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Halak, Higgins, P.K. Subban

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Berglund

What do you think?


what the **** did Berglund do last year to desirve such a rediculous, atrocious, beyond awfull proposal ?

seriously wtf, is he the next Peter Forsberg?

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Rostislav Olesz.

Anyways, if we're doing a trade with St-Louis, I rather we pay big up front and land an impact player.. hmmm... hmmm... T.J Oshie sounds perfect.

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Jaroslav Halak + 1st round pick

for T.J Oshie
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I think that is extremely fair, giving Halak + 1st round pick for less then a prospect with a high potential like Oshie would be unwise, since Halak is screaming to be starting goalie in the NHL, and he has effectively shown he can manage that role.

Starting goalie = 1st line center? If any hesitation, hopefully the 1st round pick will persuade. I see Halak becoming a Vokoun type of player.

Ah the great Montreal goalers... Roy, Theodore, Vokoun, Garon, Price, Halak!
Not lately.

For what ever reason, goalies trade values have been low. Most go for 2nd round picks (w/ the exception of Vokoun and Loungo - but Halak isn't in their class just yet).

I don't think you will see the Blues trade Oshie or Berglund.

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Halak, Higgins, P.K. Subban

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Berglund

What do you think?
Stempniak, Oshie, Wagner

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McDonagh

What do you think?

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seriously wtf, is he the next Peter Forsberg?
Mats Sundin, actually.

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Stempniak, Oshie, Wagner

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McDonagh

What do you think?
Come on now.

I'm sorry you don't like my proposal. Just get over it.

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