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08-26-2008, 02:15 PM
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3rd line centre options

I just compiled a list of potential 3rd line centres we could land in the Sundin thread. I thought I'd post it here just to give an idea of options we have.

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Marleau could definitely be an option, considering Pavelski is more than ready for 2nd line duty. With the Sharks moving their best defensive prospect in the Boyle trade (Wishart), they could probably use a solid defensive prospect.

Chicago has Lang, who could also be a possibility, thought I still think the 'Hawks will try to move Khabby to a team like LA.

Anaheim is over the cap, but don't really have any interesting centres available. However, they do have Scheinder who seems available on defense.

The Sabres aren't over the cap, but they do have 4 centres who can easily play on the top-3 lines in Hecht, Roy, Gaustad, and Connolly. However, they are far from the cap, so I could see them going with three offensive lines and Connolly is oft-injured.

Carolina has 4 centres who could play on the top-2 lines (Cullen, Brind'Amour, Staal and Ruutu).. but they are solidly under the cap. Cullen or Ruutu would be the options here.

Calgary brings up a real big option for us in my opinion. Lombardi could be swung in a deal. We have a solid prospect core which could entice them. They are sitting at about $2M over the cap and Lombardi is close to that. The 22-year old Dustin Boyd could suit up on the 2nd line, as well as possibly Conroy.

The Red Wings are close to the cap and have Hudler as an option. I'm not sure of the price because he'd probably be very expensive. We could possibly entice them by moving McDonagh, but that's a hard pill to swallow.

If the Rangers were the team to sign Sundin, they would have 4 centres who are Top-2 line guys (Dubinsky, Sundin, Gomez, and Drury).. getting one of those guys would be tough though.. as Dubs is young and upcoming and the other 2 are pieces of their core with big contracts.

The Flyers are also close to the cap, but their centres seem to be untouchable for the most part (Carter, Richards, Briere).. so that leaves them with no guy to fill our hole.

The Coyotes aren't close to the cap, but they do have Reinprecht ($2M) who they could potentially move for a young kid (considering they will be really good contenders in 2-3 years).. He'd definitely be a good option for our 3rd line.

Pittsburgh is close the cap, but their only spare centre would be Staal and he would not come cheap. Think Pacioretty +.

The Lightning have a couple of options with Gratton & Jokinen.

The Leafs could potentially move Antropov for the right package.

The Capitals are close to the cap and could potentially move either Kozlov or Nylander. Kozlov would be a great option considering his contract expires this season.

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we could also have chipchura or Lapierre?

they would both cost us less than any of these guys IMO

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we could also have chipchura or Lapierre?

they would both cost us less than any of these guys IMO
True, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Gainey wants to run three offensive lines. With teams being able to do that this year, it'd be nice to do it as well.

Lapierre is just as effective as a winger.

Plus today he said he was going to be talking to teams over the cap if Sundin decides against suiting up with the CH on his chest.

Like I said, these are just options available.

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if latendresse is ready to take the next step i could see Higgins there

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Patrick Sharp....no chance though.

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Patrick Sharp....no chance though.

Sharp is more of a winger isn't he?

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Antropov, what do you think it would take..

2010 1st/2nd
Matt D'Agostini
Yannick Weber

?

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Antropov, what do you think it would take..

2010 1st/2nd
Matt D'Agostini
Yannick Weber

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Same with Sharp though - I don't remember the last time I saw Antropov play center - (unless I missed it every time - but I think of him as more of a winger as well).

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Pavelski or Marleau would be excellent.

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Same with Sharp though - I don't remember the last time I saw Antropov play center - (unless I missed it every time - but I think of him as more of a winger as well).
I'm not really sure but Sharp took nearly 600 face-offs last year and Antropov was close to 300. So they are likely aren't full-time centres, but they are familiar with the position.

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Antropov, what do you think it would take..

2010 1st
Matt D'Agostini
Yannick Weber
Seems like a pretty decent package, though I'd rather add Subban or Carle over Weber.

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I'm not really sure but Sharp took nearly 600 face-offs last year and Antropov was close to 300. So they are likely aren't full-time centres, but they are familiar with the position.
Oh, I know they're listed as centers (and probably drafted as centers as well). I was under the impression that both of them were more effective as wingers though.

Regardless - I think sticking with Lapierre and Chipchura is the correct decision at this point.

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Oh, I know they're listed as centers (and probably drafted as centers as well). I was under the impression that both of them were more effective as wingers though.
Well Sharp, I think, became more of a winger last year when he started to bust out and was playing on the top line.

Antropov.. well the Leafs suck and needed Antropov on the wing.

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I don't see the interest in Marleau. It really depends on the price SJ asks for, I'm one of the few who thinks he just isn't worth it, a lazy player but hey he's got size and speed, so people will always think he's better than he is.

Lang is interesting, I don't think he'd cost that much. He'd be a bit like Bonk I guess.

Sabres won't trade any of their centers and definitely not to Montreal.

I don't see why we'd want Cullen, I used to think he'd be a good fit but after his stint in NY I think he's pretty much made for the Hurricanes system. Didn't they also just trade Ladd to get Ruutu(who's injury prone)? Why would they trade him?

Lombardi's not an option imo, Calgary has no reason to trade him and they're not exactly deep at center. It's not like his spot will disappear, at most they'd shed 1M off the payroll as someone would need to replace him. I think they'd be more willing to trade or send down one of their Ds.

No Hudler, if the Habs wanted a guy like that they'd have kept Grabovski. And for McDonagh? He's the type of prospect you trade in a package for a star, not a dimitive center to play on your third line.

I don't believe the Rangers would sign Sundin, but I do agree that if they do, the Habs could take advantage of it.

If I'm the Coyotes, I see no reason to trade Reinprecht(and most likely for a guy who could one day be like Reinprecht) as he's been a good part of the club.


Staal isn't getting traded soon imo.

Gratton stinks and they just got Jokinen, why would they trade him?

Antropov would be great, for whom though? That's what annoys me about trades with the Leafs. They'd ask for a lot and it's almost a guarantee it"ll come back and bite the Habs ass.

Kozlov wouldn't be a bad idea although he's an uninspired and uninspiring player, I wouldn't touch Nylanders contract though.

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Laps and Chips are not 3rd line centers.

How pretty would our lineup be if either Koivu or Pleks went down to injury?

Sundin or Lang.

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True, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Gainey wants to run three offensive lines. With teams being able to do that this year, it'd be nice to do it as well.

Lapierre is just as effective as a winger.

Plus today he said he was going to be talking to teams over the cap if Sundin decides against suiting up with the CH on his chest.

Like I said, these are just options available.
If we don't get Sundin, I think we'll start the year with Chipper and Laps.
If further down the road Chipper and Laps show obvious weaknesses, then Gainey will try to grab a centerman.

But as of today, I think it's Chipper and Laps.

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Chipchura.
Bingo. If Sundin comes, great. If not then we have a bunch of quality players to fill a roster. If a glaring need identifies itself during the season then we have both available cap space and a load to talent to trade for the player that will plug the leak. I'm ready to coast into training camp with what we have.

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hey guys... Smolinski and Perreault are waiting for Gainey's phone call ! I would had like Stoll or Backes from St-Louis. Another one is Malhotra: good on face-offs and defensively.


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No Hudler, if the Habs wanted a guy like that they'd have kept Grabovski. And for McDonagh? He's the type of prospect you trade in a package for a star, not a dimitive center to play on your third line.
You do realize Hudler scored 42 points with very little ice-time, right?

Hudler had a very similar production rate as Andrei Kostitsyn, with less PP time and overall TOI.

I probably wouldn't want to move McDonagh for him, but I think you are underrating him.

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If I'm the Coyotes, I see no reason to trade Reinprecht(and most likely for a guy who could one day be like Reinprecht) as he's been a good part of the club.
Reinprecht has been great for them, but he's not getting younger. He's 32-years old and Phoenix, I think, is a good 2-years away from contending. Reinprecht is in the last year of his deal and could bring back a solid return as far as a decent prospect goes.

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Gratton stinks and they just got Jokinen, why would they trade him?
There has been rumours everywhere that Jokinen is the odd man out. There has been stuff flying around that they want to shed $5-$6M before the season starts. They have Prospal, Lecavalier, St. Louis, Malone, Vrbata, and Stamkos as their top-6.

They also have Halpern, Recchi, Ouellet, Roberts and Jokinen. Two of those players are going to be 4th-line guys and they will likely have to move at least one, if not two of them.

On top of those 11 players, the Lightning have the following under contract;

Gratton, Artytukhin, Craig, Ward, Hall and Tarnasky.

[/QUOTE]Antropov would be great, for whom though? That's what annoys me about trades with the Leafs. They'd ask for a lot and it's almost a guarantee it"ll come back and bite the Habs ass.[/QUOTE]
True, but even if he's not producing offensively, his defensive game is just as good.

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Kozlov wouldn't be a bad idea although he's an uninspired and uninspiring player, I wouldn't touch Nylanders contract though.
Yeah, Kozlov isn't the best option.. but he's decent. Nylander does have a horrible contract which I said in the Sundin thread.

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its is chipchura spot to loose, and i do not think he will dissapoint.

althoughi like lombardi, but i doubt the habs will be able to pry him away from calgary

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Antropov would be a good fit for us I think. He is able to be offensive, very good defensivly and is a big center, what we lack for maybe more defensive missions.

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It's easy, we need a Big Centre with a right handed shot that has produced nicely in the NHL,...UFA is prefered....we don't want to trade valuable assets..

Why don't we sign MATS SUNDIN...do you think he'll come here? If he doesn't how about ROBERT LANG??.. what do we have to give Chicago?? Hey we could even resign smolinski....



lool

but seriously, Lang is my personnal choice, he'll put up around 50 point here w good wingers..

If not I say we go for a defenseman...1 year.. Matthew SSchneider

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