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08-26-2008, 05:22 PM
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exactly.

im gonna watch old u tube vids of shanny and hope hes still that guy too. hes not.

having watched alot of vancouver games the past few seasons i can tell you hes a very intelligent player and more importantly, hes good around the crease but he has lost a step. the system he played in with vanc. was very defensive and the change to an uptempo skating style should suit him. yes hes not a kid anymore, but he can still skate and his shot is still very accurate. hes a heady player who will score goals for this team playing along side gomez and drury, no doubt.

and one more thing, he wore the c on his sweater. he along with drury have been captains. dont discount the value of leadership. hes gonna have a huge positive impact this year.
When did anyone say that he was going to do whats in the video? Someone asked a question about Naslund and I posted a video and cited that some was clips of his younger days but its a good summation of what you will see. Learn how to read before you make snide remarks.

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08-26-2008, 08:11 PM
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When did anyone say that he was going to do whats in the video? Someone asked a question about Naslund and I posted a video and cited that some was clips of his younger days but its a good summation of what you will see. Learn how to read before you make snide remarks.
dude. relax. obviously you misunderstood my point. i hope thats what it was, otherwise you need to chill. nothin personal and in no way was i trying to be snide towards you. and my reading is actually quite good.

my comment had absolutely nothing to do with you. i wasnt trying to imply that you felt that naslund was today the same player he was in the video clips. in fact, your point was that he was younger in the clips and i understood your reason for posting the clips.

naslund is clearly the guy to take shannys spot and my comment was directed at those who continue to want shanny on this team even tho hes a shell of his former self.

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08-26-2008, 08:19 PM
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wasn't it Valeri Bure that married that chick?

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He's a sniper. And has very good wrist shots

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08-26-2008, 09:24 PM
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He's a strong wrist-shot shooter. His release isn't as quick as it used to be but he can still get it away. His passing is quite underrated simply due to the fact that he's played with average linemates over the past couple of seasons. He is a much better 2-way player, although his offense has suffered as a result of focussing more on defense. He's still got good speed and shouldn't have a problem playing with Gomez.

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08-26-2008, 09:45 PM
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He's a strong wrist-shot shooter. His release isn't as quick as it used to be but he can still get it away. His passing is quite underrated simply due to the fact that he's played with average linemates over the past couple of seasons. He is a much better 2-way player, although his offense has suffered as a result of focussing more on defense. He's still got good speed and shouldn't have a problem playing with Gomez.
agree and i think naslund will get alot of time on the penalty kill.

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08-26-2008, 09:46 PM
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agree and i think naslund will get alot of time on the penalty kill.
Naslund for selke

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Naslund for selke
id love if that can happen, i dont think he was nominated for that ever. did he win the lady bing a few years ago?

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id love if that can happen, i dont think he was nominated for that ever. did he win the lady bing a few years ago?
He'll win both this year.

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agree and i think naslund will get alot of time on the penalty kill.
I don't want Naslund on the PK. He's 35 and too many minutes might result in him going the way of Shanahan. I think top-6 minutes + powerplay time will be enough. Leave the penalty kill to the 'younger' guys like Drury, Gomez, Callahan, Betts, Fritsche, and whoever else might appear up to the past. Since we have Naslund for 2 years I'd prefer to have him last that long, in the role he's here for (top-6 winger) instead of burning out in the middle of next season because he's got too many minutes.

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08-26-2008, 11:14 PM
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agree and i think naslund will get alot of time on the penalty kill.
I don't see him logging too much time on the PK, we have plenty of guys to fill that role. Maybe every now and then he'll catch 15+ seconds towards the end of the shift in hopes of a break out pass for an odd man rush. Other than that I think they'll save his legs.

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I don't want Naslund on the PK. He's 35 and too many minutes might result in him going the way of Shanahan. I think top-6 minutes + powerplay time will be enough. Leave the penalty kill to the 'younger' guys like Drury, Gomez, Callahan, Betts, Fritsche, and whoever else might appear up to the past. Since we have Naslund for 2 years I'd prefer to have him last that long, in the role he's here for (top-6 winger) instead of burning out in the middle of next season because he's got too many minutes.
naslund and shanahan arent the same type of player.....naslunds game is based on speed.....shanahans has never been....shanahan was never a great skater, naslund still is a great skater.....if naslund can help the pk, then he shoiuld be on it

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08-26-2008, 11:48 PM
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He certainly defines the sniper term. People are saying that his shot isn't what it used to be but I beg to differ. Their saying that mostly due to his lack of production in recent seasons, which stems from his line mates.
It's a combination really. His shot isn't near the same as it was a few years ago. I think the hit from Moore really affected his shot, well actually, I'm sure it has. He ended up having surgery on his elbow and hasn't been the same since. That said, the last couple seasons he hasn't really had the best linemates either, both talent wise and fit. He faired best when paired with the Sedins as they are great playmakers, but they produce most of their scoring cycling the puck down low and finding the open man in front, not Naslund's style at all. Personally, I think he'll be a great fit with Gomez as he's at his best when he's scoring off the rush with a great playmaker. I think he'll have a good shot at getting 30 goals this season, but I wouldn't expect anything more than that and it might even be a stretch. He rarely uses his wristshot anymore and has resorted to a half-assed slapshot of late.

Hopefully for you guys the move to NYC will envigorate Naslund because for many nights over the last couple seasons he looked pretty disinterested.

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08-27-2008, 06:06 PM
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Does Naslund still have wheels to make a Gomez/Naslund duo completely terrifying?
No. But he's much faster than Shanahan, and is less likely to just shoot the puck on net after crossing the blue line. He's more creative than that.

By the way, if Tom uses him in the shootout don't expect a goal. His shootouts are Jagr-esque.

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08-28-2008, 06:33 AM
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I don't see him logging too much time on the PK, we have plenty of guys to fill that role. Maybe every now and then he'll catch 15+ seconds towards the end of the shift in hopes of a break out pass for an odd man rush. Other than that I think they'll save his legs.
well people said the same thing about shanny and we overused him on the PK, well i think naslund will get some time on the pk, and if he gets too much well that is renney's fault.

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I agree, Chemistry will be key with any type of sucess.
Call me crazy but I think it should be Dawes , Gomez, Naslund then Prucha and Zherdev with Drury...........yes Prucha..........it's 50/50 on this board with support for him but he is young and with ice time will be fine

I also rather have Frtichse, Dubinsky, Sjostrom............Betts with Callahan on the 4th and 2nd PK unit.........so they will have their roles

Then Voros or Orr and even Rissmiller

Man they have alot of depth in Hartford for next yr though...........Korpokoski, Byers, Aminisev, Cherapanov...............they all should make it.........feel bad for Greg Moore cause he should be on this team now

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^right on the money about the shot , its a laser , i'd say the only person better would be shanny ,he's also good down low i can see.
speaking of money...how much was he paid in Vancouver??

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speaking of money...how much was he paid in Vancouver??
probably alot more than what we're paying him ,you gotta bribe your players to live in the air ya know

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speaking of money...how much was he paid in Vancouver??
His last contract was 3 years, 18 million.

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His last contract was 3 years, 18 million.
6million a year than ,so i was right.

like i said , bribe to live in the air.

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He certainly defines the sniper term. People are saying that his shot isn't what it used to be but I beg to differ. Their saying that mostly due to his lack of production in recent seasons, which stems from his line mates.
Markus Naslund is a large part of the reason for his lack of production in recent seasons.... Don't push the responsibility off onto his line mates.

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Naslund has lost some of the zip on his shot. But, he can still skate and I think his drop in assists the last couple years had a lot to do with Vigneault's system. Aside from any adjustment and chemistry issues, the guy still has the tools to score 25-30 goals and 40-45 assists. In terms of injuries, he has been remarkably durable, so I'm not really too concerned about that.

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Crap watching that movie almost brings tears to my eyes (that coldplay song didn't help). Forget sniper, the guy was one of the best players in the league, period - from 2001-2004. Numbers and awards back it up.

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He's a sniper. No..not a playmaker.
correction

he was a sniper

his 40+ goals happened 6 years ago - on a decent Canucks team
Jagr put up 54 goals on a crap Rangers team 3 years ago.

My forecast: 25 goals for Naslund in the East could be considered a decent return....


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I think the hit from Moore really affected his shot, well actually, I'm sure it has. He ended up having surgery on his elbow and hasn't been the same since.
I don't think I ever knew that Moore's hit did that kind of damage. Must have been lost in the drama of the incident.

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I think he'll have a good shot at getting 30 goals this season, but I wouldn't expect anything more than that and it might even be a stretch..
Luckily, there's some pretty modest offensive expectations here. 20+ goals from anyone not named Jagr is a win for the Rangers as far as I'm concerned and, IF Naslund and Zherdev can get there, you've accounted for the scoring that was lost this summer. The key is going to be for Renney just to recognize that he isn't Jagr and can't be out there for 25-28 minutes nightly or playing in every conceivable situation.

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