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08-28-2008, 05:35 PM
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I know you may think this would be horrible for Sens fans but look at my face

We could possibly get two firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for Meszaros

Do not sign it Murray, that would be horrible
It will probably be 5.2 just under the two firsts.

So we get a first, second and a third for Meszaros.

Then we will have to deal Vermette or Foligno and a pick to someone for a puck moving defenseman.

This is not a good situation at all.

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I know you may think this would be horrible for Sens fans but look at my face

We could possibly get two firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for Meszaros

Do not sign it Murray, that would be horrible
who is gonna run your powerplay? Volchenkov?!

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08-28-2008, 05:36 PM
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I would think so. They currently have just over $3 million in available cap space. Isn't it rumored that the offer sheet was for much more than that?
That, and they don't have the draft picks to cover compensation.

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Wow. Ottawa is in a pickle if this is true. Sure the picks would be nice, but they need Meszaros' skill set desperately right now. And it's not like you can just find a replacement for much cheaper (the only guy I can think of that can bring that puck moving ability is Schneider and he makes 5.625 M). I wouldn't want to be in Murray's shoes trying to make this decision.

I am dying to find out which team it is.
New Jersey sign Mez to the offer sheet, trade Johnny Oduya back to Ottawa for the 2nd round pick.

New Jersey picks a goalie in the 2nd round 2009.


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08-28-2008, 05:37 PM
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Our PP Lineups (Defense)

Phillips - Lee

2nd:

Volchenkov - Schubert

It is so horrible it isn't funny, but I am still laughing out of disgust

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08-28-2008, 05:37 PM
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Let him go, package the picks, and trade for someone with comparable talent with a much better contract. Doesn't seem like that crappy of a situation to me.

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Krajicek
Edler
Ohlund
Bieksa
Salo

I don't think you guys really need to overpay and give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd rounder to get a puck moving defenseman.

So yes I'll be surprised if its the Nucks.
Given that the Canucks lack top 6 forwards, it wouldn't make sense to sign Mezaros.

Ohlund, Salo, Bieksa, Mitchell, Krajicek, Edler are a solid enough starting 6. They also have Davison and Baumgartner to call up for injury replacements.

Getting Mezaros wouldn't significantly enhance their playoff chances. If they had been able to put in an offer and land a guy like Jeff Carter, that would have enchanced their playoff chances, not Mezaros.

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New Jersey sign Mez to the offer sheet, trade Johnny Oduya back to Ottawa for the 2nd round pick.

New Jersey picks a goalie in the 2nd round 2009.

Your defense would be much better with a pairing of Mez-Martin, but i still dont think its the devils because Lou is too much of a classy guy IMO.

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So may I ask how Ottawa is gonna run their PP now with nobody to quarterback it?
Meszaros was not the QB, he was just the shot.

Before the offer sheet we were already missing a QB.

We still need the QB but now we need a defenseman with the big shot to, should Meszaros leave.

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Mats Sundin made the offer himself. He heeds a fishing buddy.

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If I didn't miss anything, the following teams do NOT have the necessary own draft picks to make the offer sheet if it is indeed a 1st, 2nd and 3rd:

Anaheim (no 2nd)
Buffalo (no 2nd, no 3rd)
Calgary (no 2nd, no 3rd)
Los Angeles (no 3rd)
Minnesota (no 2nd)
Montreal (no 2nd)
Philadelphia (no 2nd, no 3rd)
San Jose (no 1st)
Tampa Bay (no 3rd)
Toronto (no 2nd)
im pretty sure the bruins don't have their 2009 second (trade for petteri nokeleinen). they'd also have to shed big time salary, they only have like 1.4 or so in cap space.

if they traded manny to someone for a second it would work, but then they'd have no workable backup and would have to sign one. manny's cap hit is 4.3 + 1.4 = 5.7, they'd not have much to sign one ( less than 700K). unless chia has something else up his sleeve i think we can count the Bs out.

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Lowe isn't a GM anymore

I don't think its the Blues, even though a puck mover like Meszaros would be a nice addition to the team. Someone did post on the Senators board that Tampa was the team who made the offer. We'll see if that comes to fruition.
Lowe is still gm, just not in title. Don't let that fool you. As long as Lowe is in the organization he is making the calls.

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It will probably be 5.2 just under the two firsts.

So we get a first, second and a third for Meszaros.

Then we will have to deal Vermette or Foligno and a pick to someone for a puck moving defenseman.

This is not a good situation at all.
I know, I have no idea why I am happy, don't worry it will kick in eventually

Oh it just did

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Given that the Canucks lack top 6 forwards, it wouldn't make sense to sign Mezaros.

Ohlund, Salo, Bieksa, Mitchell, Krajicek, Edler are a solid enough starting 6. They also have Davison and Baumgartner to call up for injury replacements.
It would certainly free up a guy like Edler or Krajicek to be moved in a deal to improve the forwards though.

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Anyone have a website that tracks all of the 2009 picks (which teams have which picks) and beyond? I used to have two sites saved, but one wasn't updated and I deleted the other. Thanks in advance.

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If it's the Canucks and theres no ulterior motive behind it, I'm offing myself. I ****ing hate Meszaros.

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Your defense would be much better with a pairing of Mez-Martin, but i still dont think its the devils because Lou is too much of a classy guy IMO.
I wish I could find that article from TSN, saying that GM's should make offersheets. It's healthy for league competition.

That and Lou needs something new to be bashed on, attendance and trap references are getting pretty tired on HFboards.

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Given that the Canucks lack top 6 forwards, it wouldn't make sense to sign Mezaros.

Ohlund, Salo, Bieksa, Mitchell, Krajicek, Edler are a solid enough starting 6. They also have Davison and Baumgartner to call up for injury replacements.

Getting Mezaros wouldn't significantly enhance their playoff chances. If they had been able to put in an offer and land a guy like Jeff Carter, that would have enchanced their playoff chances, not Mezaros.
Well, the reasoning I think would be that if Meszaros would be brought in, someone is brought out. At that point you'd got to imagine a player like Salo or Krajicek is likely on the way out.

IMO Meszaros is worth losing the picks for, and if Ottawa chooses to lose a player of his ability for draft picks, so be it. But that said a team like Columbus might have even more to gain, especially as their roster is really starting to come together with Leclaire in net.

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Don't know if it has been mentioned, but it can't be LA, because Lombardi has his own RFAs to worry about. This would make them a target to be offered big contracts by other teams, not to mention hurt his negotiations with them seeing as how he just ponied up big money for Meszaros.

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Lowe is still gm, just not in title. Don't let that fool you. As long as Lowe is in the organization he is making the calls.
Ah, the "Kenny Holland is not a good GM; its all Scotty Bowman" defence!

Strange we don't know the team. Thats usually the first thing you hear.

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im pretty sure the bruins don't have their 2009 second (trade for petteri nokeleinen). they'd also have to shed big time salary, they only have like 1.4 or so in cap space.
Ah, thanks. It was a conditional 2nd in the Nokelainen trade. He fulfilled the condition (50 games minimum in 07-08 - he played 57), so Boston is out as well.

Updated list:
Anaheim (no 2nd)
Boston (no 2nd)
Buffalo (no 2nd, no 3rd)
Calgary (no 2nd, no 3rd)
Los Angeles (no 3rd)
Minnesota (no 2nd)
Montreal (no 2nd)
Philadelphia (no 2nd, no 3rd)
San Jose (no 1st)
Tampa Bay (no 3rd)
Toronto (no 2nd)

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Meszaros doesn't even deserve $3 million [But I was OKAY with $3.5 million] according to his play. The team better hope that he improves....he's relatively young.

0% chance Ottawa matches if it's close to 5 million.

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Lowe is still gm, just not in title. Don't let that fool you. As long as Lowe is in the organization he is making the calls.
If he is still the general manager in essence, why move him up to team president in the first place? He'll definitely have some involvement in some moves, but I don't think that they'd hire Tambellini just to be a Lowe/Katz puppet.

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I wish I could find that article from TSN, saying that GM's should make offersheets. It's healthy for league competition.

That and Lou needs something new to be bashed on, attendance and trap references are getting pretty tired on HFboards.
well we all know how fired up Brian Burke was after Penner was signed

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LA may have done this.

1. They have the cap room to do so. They haven't even hit the floor yet.
2. They have said that they are looking for another left handed defenseman to play top 4 minutes.
3. Giving up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd is a lot but not taking any of the Kings existing young players and prospects might be a risk that pays off.

The only thing that grabs my attention is that Terry Murray may not get the nicest Christmas card from his brother.

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