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08-28-2008, 08:40 PM
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Phoenix. They got a hole at D, and they have been stock piling picks for sometime, resulting in alot of young players. With Mez, they could have some defensive depth and add another body to their young core.
I agree I think Pheonix could be a good bet. They have plenty of prospects and they could probably use a another defenceman. Does anyone know if Pheonix has their original picks for rd's 1-3 next year?

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It's Tampa. Some guy on the Sens board broke the news earlier.

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08-28-2008, 08:59 PM
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One team that badly needs defense is Philadelphia; i wouldnt be surprised learning he signed with them.
Can't afford it

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It's Tampa. Some guy on the Sens board broke the news earlier.
Apparently since they don't have their 3rd for this upcoming year, it can't be them. As all compensation picks must be for the upcoming year.

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Apparently since they don't have their 3rd for this upcoming year, it can't be them. As all compensation picks must be for the upcoming year.
Where can we find a list of teams with all of the requisite picks and cap status? There might only be like five in the entire league if these truly are the conditions.

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08-28-2008, 09:39 PM
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I'm gonna guess Atlanta.
Waddell would be the worst ****ing idiot on earth if he does this. Worst. idiot. on. Earth.


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Can't afford it



Apparently since they don't have their 3rd for this upcoming year, it can't be them. As all compensation picks must be for the upcoming year.
I hope it's not Tampa. I have my doubts that they can do well this year. IMO, they can just as easily finish last again this year.

The last thing I would want is to have the Sens get Tavares (or any other top-5 draft pick)

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08-28-2008, 09:42 PM
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Where can we find a list of teams with all of the requisite picks and cap status? There might only be like five in the entire league if these truly are the conditions.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=16579

According to the above link, the six most likely teams are Atlanta, Columbus, NJ, Islanders, Tampa Bay, and Vancouver.

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08-28-2008, 09:49 PM
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=16579

According to the above link, the six most likely teams are Atlanta, Columbus, NJ, Islanders, Tampa Bay, and Vancouver.
Nice work, thanks.

That dude needs g*ddamn lines in his chart, though.

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08-28-2008, 09:59 PM
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It's Tampa. Some guy on the Sens board broke the news earlier.
Since Tampa currently doesn't have their own 3rd rd pick for next year. (Sent to Pittsburgh when Malone signed with Tampa). So there are two price ranges that they could offer, one is way too low. The other, 4 1st rd picks...do I have to continue?

RFA offer sheet compensation:

$863,156 or less None
$863,156 - $1,307,811 3rd round pick
$1,307,881 - $2,615,623 2nd round pick
$2,615,623 - $3,923,434 1st and 3rd round pick
$3,923,434 - $5,231,246 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick
$5,231,246 - $6,539,061 Two 1st's, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick
$6,539,061 or more Four 1st round picks

http://nhlscap.com/offer_sheets.htm

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Does Tampa even have $5 million in cap space after all of their signings this year? I wouldn't mind taking a guy like Shane O'Brien off their hands...

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Does Tampa even have $5 million in cap space after all of their signings this year? I wouldn't mind taking a guy like Shane O'Brien off their hands...
Nope, only 3,092,500 as per cap central.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/

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08-28-2008, 10:30 PM
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hockey buzz made a mistake canadain stll has there second round choices thy have two second round with huet trade thy gaved up there first and 5 th round for alex tanguay first of last year and 5th

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Technically.. we could ask for our 2nd back from Cowtown...

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hockey buzz made a mistake canadain stll has there second round choices thy have two second round with huet trade thy gaved up there first and 5 th round for alex tanguay first of last year and 5th
We sent a 1st in 08 and a 2nd in 09 for Tanguay and a 5th.

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aside from the brisebois like brain farts that meszaros had last season, you have to keep in mind that he still quite young. He's a horse and I'd love to have him on my team... but at this stage of his career, and given where the habs are at, its not an essential match.

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08-29-2008, 06:22 AM
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We sent a 1st in 08 and a 2nd in 09 for Tanguay and a 5th.
True, but at the deadline we acquired a 2nd rounder from the Caps for Huet... so, depending if we sent OUR 2nd rounder or the one given by the Caps... we may be "elligible"... let's hope not!





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08-29-2008, 08:40 AM
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ya right....at an average salary over 5 million...the other team can keep him

I would rather keep Komisarek instead of having to have him walk...which is exactly the result of signing this guy would be
EXACTLY!

If we signed Meszaros, we mind as well bid goodbye to Komi at years end. There is no way we will have Markov, Hammer, Meszaros at $5M+ on d, and still have enough money to sign Komi, unless we decide to let all our forwards go, or pull a Toronto circa two years ago with a very unproportional amount of cap money spent on dmen.

Montreal isn't a desperate team, and this move smells like a move by a desperate team.

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True, but at the deadline we acquired a 2nd rounder from the Caps for Huet... so, depending if we sent OUR 2nd rounder or the one given by the Caps... we may be "elligible"... let's hope not!
No worries...it has to be the teams own pick - the Habs would have to get their pick back from the Flames.

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08-29-2008, 08:59 AM
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I don't know about you guys, but could this be b.s.? I mean, we've heard of offer sheets signings before, but the identity has never been an issue (at least not like this).

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08-29-2008, 10:09 AM
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I don't know about you guys, but could this be b.s.? I mean, we've heard of offer sheets signings before, but the identity has never been an issue (at least not like this).
The "offer sheet" is pure BS.

If Tampa (as reported) is the team involved, they don't have their 3rd round pick and would have to re-acquire it to make a formal offer. Just how high do you think Murray could force the price of that pick by contacting Pittsburg?

Is anyone seriously trying to suggest that Tampa is willing to give up 5+M, a 1st, a 2nd, a3rd, PLUS the cost in assets to re-acquire the 3rd with Pittsburg having them over the barrel and Murray forcing up the price....

Sorry, but this is nothing more than a player and agent trying to put some pressure on the team during negotiations and using a preliminary discussion with Tampa of an unrealistic scenario to get leverage.

Murray won't cave and Mez will be signed for approx 4m per.

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I'd immediately dismiss any talk of the Habs making an offer to Meszaros as utter nonsense. While they could easily trade to get their 2009 second rounder back from Calgary to complete the deal with Ottawa, I doubt whether Gainey would want the Sens to have two first rounders next year while the Habs miss out on their own first round pick two years in a row. Besides, Meszaros would be costly and he wouldn't meet the need for a centre.

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i wrote it in the other thread, but ill say it here, my guess is Vancouver.

reasons?

Gilles already made one offer sheet this summer, so he already is ball-sy, and he knows how negotiations work, so he saw it as a good opportunity to steal a player from a team having bad contract talks

they have the picks, prospect depth and cap space available

the aquisition of mezaros would make one of Bieska or Ohlund expendable who could be sent in a trade to NYR for Gomez, thus allowing the rangers to sign Sundin, and obtain a top defenceman.

and we can finally end this dumb sundin saga

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Since Tampa currently doesn't have their own 3rd rd pick for next year. (Sent to Pittsburgh when Malone signed with Tampa). So there are two price ranges that they could offer, one is way too low. The other, 4 1st rd picks...do I have to continue?

RFA offer sheet compensation:

$863,156 or less None
$863,156 - $1,307,811 3rd round pick
$1,307,881 - $2,615,623 2nd round pick
$2,615,623 - $3,923,434 1st and 3rd round pick
$3,923,434 - $5,231,246 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick
$5,231,246 - $6,539,061 Two 1st's, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick
$6,539,061 or more Four 1st round picks

http://nhlscap.com/offer_sheets.htm
does the pick have to be next year ? Cant it be the next year if it's not available this season?
Anyway it makes sense for tampa...they cant draft for **** anyway unless they are first overall.

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08-29-2008, 12:42 PM
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hockey buzz made a mistake canadain stll has there second round choices thy have two second round with huet trade thy gaved up there first and 5 th round for alex tanguay first of last year and 5th
The Habs traded their 1st in '08 and 2nd in '09 for Tanguay and Flames 5th '08. I have the Habs '09 and '10 draft picks list here,

http://www.habprospects.com/modules....owpage&pid=170

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does the pick have to be next year ? Cant it be the next year if it's not available this season?
Anyway it makes sense for tampa...they cant draft for **** anyway unless they are first overall.
The picks have to be in order, I think.

So the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd would all be from this season.

The two 1sts, 2nd and 3rd would all be from this season with the exception of one 1st being next year.

And so on.

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