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09-01-2008, 12:03 PM
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Ryan Jones is one hell of a hockey player. I've watched him for the past four years, in college at Miami University. He's hard nosed, and makes his living in front of the net. The guy is a great leader too. He was our captain for two years and grew his hair long last season to donate to Locks for Love. The guy is a true leader on and off the ice.



I'll be excited to follow Jones this season. I'm not opposed to cheering the Preds on now!
the more, the merrier!

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09-01-2008, 12:34 PM
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Well this is a good chance to get an opioion from someone who has actually watched him. What do you think his potential is? Top 6 forward? Bottom six forward? Tomas Holmstrom type player?
I really honestly think it is very difficult to compare a North American trained player with a European trained player with any true accuracy because of the differences in how they were taught the game and what fundamentals were truly stressed to each player as important.

I think a better benchmark player would be Ryan Smyth or Shane Doan, however both of those players went the major junior route and again were trained differently...but at least they had similiar minor hockey experiences.

Collegiate players typically are more NHL ready than their counterparts from the major junior route because of their advanced age, the fact that they play against older competition, and most importantly because they have a much higher practice to game ratio than their counterparts. Of course, the downside for these players is that they commonly have an adjustment period coming into the NHL due to their shorter season and must really commit to addressing those concerns by ramping up their off-ice workouts and truly committing to taking care of their bodies like professional athletes (now they actually have money and can control the resources available to them).

Will Ryan Jones be ready for the NHL out of training camp? Will Jones be ready to assume a top-six role on opening night if he makes the team? Can Jones compete at a consistent level for a full 82 game schedule (plus playoffs, hopefully)?

These are all questions that will not be answered here, but will eventually be answered on the ice as it does appear that Jones is in the running for one of those top-six spots and the organization is very high on his potential. Right now, I think the best option for the Predators is to build up as many options as possible to fill the existing holes and not be afraid to pull the trigger on a secondary move if it is needed at any point in the season. Clearly, the Predators know that they have the core of their team for the next 5 years (look at the contracts signed since the ownership change and add Hamhuis, you'll get the picture), now they are looking to cement another round of younger players around that core to again stagger when the ELC's expire and insure that we have a solid foundation for this team for years to come.

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I'm really liking what I am reading about Ryan Jones...seems like he'll turn into a great pickup and if he turns into a Ryan Smyth, Shane Doan type player than the Predators will have a true gem on their hands!

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09-01-2008, 01:10 PM
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As far as what type of player he is, yeah, it's really hard to say. You never know how a guy will make the move to the NHL, but I really think he has a great shot, especially with the Preds. He plays a very physical game. If I had to say, I would surmise that he could be a top six foreword, but it all depends on whether or not he would be used in a scoring role, or if he would be better served on a checking line, but the potential is there. The guy is a workhorse. In four years at Miami, he didn't miss/sit out ONE single game. Here are his stats from MU:

2004-2005 38gp, 8 goals, 7 assists, +8
2005-2006 39gp, 22 goals, 13 assists, +22
2006-2007 42gp, 29 goals, 19 assists, +18
2007-2008 42gp, 31 goals, 18 assists, +17

So, as you can see, very talented player. I'm very excited to see how he's used.

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09-01-2008, 02:50 PM
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Also look at this from Poile's perspective, he knows as long as this franchise is in Nashville with these current owners he is almost guarnteed a job. However if this franchise leaves.... ehhh not so much
Any time David Poile wants to leave the Predators, he'll have many, many offers of employment right away. There are a lot of teams who would take him today. He's not worried about a job. We need to be worried about keeping him.

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Any time David Poile wants to leave the Predators, he'll have many, many offers of employment right away. There are a lot of teams who would take him today. He's not worried about a job. We need to be worried about keeping him.
agreed, Toronto should have tried to pry him away already.

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09-01-2008, 05:21 PM
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agreed, Toronto should have tried to pry him away already.
Haven't they already tried?

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09-01-2008, 08:17 PM
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Why on earth would DP set a Sept 1 due date for Radulov to make a decision when it falls on Labor Day? Why not just say Sept 2? It just makes people question his thinking even more this summer.

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09-01-2008, 08:18 PM
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It's a nice date and I don't think it's a holiday in Canada where the headquarters are.

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Haven't they already tried?
not really ... they want Burke more anyway

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It's a nice date and I don't think it's a holiday in Canada where the headquarters are.
The NHL's headquarters is/are in New York City.


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not really ... they want Burke more anyway
I wouldn't want Burke after his media circus over the Penner offer sheet... like, at all.

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Why on earth would DP set a Sept 1 due date for Radulov to make a decision when it falls on Labor Day? Why not just say Sept 2? It just makes people question his thinking even more this summer.
If it's that big of a deal to someone.............well...they need a life.

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09-02-2008, 08:22 AM
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The NHL's headquarters is/are in New York City.
Sorry. Made a bad assumption.

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09-02-2008, 09:27 AM
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If it's that big of a deal to someone.............well...they need a life.
Internet message board nerds telling others to get a life... nice!

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09-02-2008, 05:02 PM
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Why on earth would DP set a Sept 1 due date for Radulov to make a decision when it falls on Labor Day? Why not just say Sept 2? It just makes people question his thinking even more this summer.
I can't believe I'm even going here, but it makes perfect sense to me. Usually deadlines occur at the end of the day. So if you schedule a deadline on a weekend (labor day weekend), you can start the next week with a clean slate instead of sitting around all day waiting to the deadline to be over.

This deadline really has no significant meaning except for an official date they can write in their books and to give us fans closure. Poile never expected him to return.

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09-02-2008, 06:31 PM
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Haha, well yeah. Spending sometime on a laptop typing to be able to talk hockey and actually getting all wound up over such a little thing..............yeah there's a difference.

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Lets keep this in good taste guys

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Another public appearance scheduled with Tootoo:

http://www.zandavisitor.com/newsarti..._Nashville_Zoo

More circumstantial evidence that he seems to be more of a roster player than a tryout.

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Another public appearance scheduled with Tootoo:

http://www.zandavisitor.com/newsarti..._Nashville_Zoo

More circumstantial evidence that he seems to be more of a roster player than a tryout.
cool, Ive been wanting to visit the zoo anyway

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"Jones tied for second on the NCAA Division I all-time game-winning goals list (21)."

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cool, Ive been wanting to visit the zoo anyway
The zoo is very solid although not huge. The kids' play area is great for the under 13 or so crowd. Have fun. Find some good Mexican food nearby at either the converted gas station just to the south or the true La Hacienda a few miles to the north.

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The zoo is very solid although not huge. The kids' play area is great for the under 13 or so crowd. Have fun. Find some good Mexican food nearby at either the converted gas station just to the south or the true La Hacienda a few miles to the north.
I went once but it was so long ago that I truly don't remember a single thing about it, I think maybe it was a part of a school field trip. Im hoping to take my nephew, If Im lucky we are going to train him up to be a little hockey player.

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Trotz wants to start Hornqvist on the top line, Jones on the second.

He was also comfortable trading Zids due to the up and coming Koistinen

per Preds.com

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Erat-Arnott-Hornqvist
Dumont-Legwand-Jones

why break up Dumont-Arnott??? I'll never understand Trotz sometimes.

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Trotz wants to start Hornqvist on the top line, Jones on the second.

He was also comfortable trading Zids due to the up and coming Koistinen

per Preds.com
I think he's saying this because it's the only option. Kind of scary to believe that we are counting on 2 players never having played an NHL game to come in and play a top 6 role for us. Like I said, I guess we have no choice.

Interesting that Trotz notes it's going to be harder to get into the playoffs, because teams below us have made moves to get better, [while Poile has done nothing, including let Radulov float away to Russia].

We are seeing more and more why Washington fired Poile after going to playoffs year after year. He can build a good team, but doesn't have what it takes to build a contender.

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