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Martin Biron or Mika Noronen??

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06-19-2004, 10:28 PM
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That is a fair trade BUT only way it happens if Turek gets traded somehow first.
Well we saw Irbe get traded a few days ago so who knows....

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06-20-2004, 08:34 AM
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I know they're division rivals and it could easily come back to bite either team in the butt however what about

To Buffalo

Radek Bonk
Neil Komadoski
3rd round pick

To Ottawa

Martin Biron
5th round pick
(maybe another minor league player in place of the pick)
That's overpaying for Biron, IMO.

I'd offer Weight to the Sabres straight up for Biron, and pay up to $3 million of Weight's salary for next year.

I think most people would agree that Weight is better than Bonk, so the "overpayment" issue might be raised here as well. But this is a salary dump for the Blues, and also gets them back an NHL player at a position of need.


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06-20-2004, 09:57 AM
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Buffalo has no use for Weight,especially at that salary.

Forwards:
Danny Briere
Jochen Hecht
Derek Roy
JP Dumont
Max Afinogenov
Ales Kotalik
Miro Satan
Chris Drury
Adam Mair
Mike Grier
Milan Bartovic
Tim Connolly
Taylor Pyatt

Possibly:
Dan Paille
Thomas Vanek




Now if you're thinking of trading Demitra,that's a different story

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06-20-2004, 10:35 AM
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Aaron Miller is originally from Buffalo. Food for thought.
Your point? Miller has said that he does not wan to play for Buffalo. Regardless Norstrom is a better player who I would be willing to pay more to get. Home town boy or not it comes down to who is better and who would make the team better.

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06-20-2004, 10:47 AM
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That's overpaying for Biron, IMO.

I'd offer Weight to the Sabres straight up for Biron, and pay up to $3 million of Weight's salary for next year.

I think most people would agree that Weight is better than Bonk, so the "overpayment" issue might be raised here as well. But this is a salary dump for the Blues, and also gets them back an NHL player at a position of need.

Weight does not really interest me that much at his tag but as DB48 has already said Demitra would be much more appealing.

To Buffalo: Demitra, cash

To St. Louis: Biron, 2nd

Kotalik could possibly be added for sweetener. I don't know if the 2nd is too much though...

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06-20-2004, 11:42 AM
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Weight does not really interest me that much at his tag but as DB48 has already said Demitra would be much more appealing.

To Buffalo: Demitra, cash

To St. Louis: Biron, 2nd

Kotalik could possibly be added for sweetener. I don't know if the 2nd is too much though...
I would make that deal so long as were only paying about a 1 to 1.5 mill dollars. If we pay any more we may as well keep Demitra or trade him for a better return.

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06-20-2004, 03:05 PM
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Buffalo has no use for Weight,especially at that salary.

Forwards:
Danny Briere
Jochen Hecht
Derek Roy
JP Dumont
Max Afinogenov
Ales Kotalik
Miro Satan
Chris Drury
Adam Mair
Mike Grier
Milan Bartovic
Tim Connolly
Taylor Pyatt

Possibly:
Dan Paille
Thomas Vanek
Uh, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Doug Weight is clearly a better NHL player than every one of those guys... with the possible exceptions of Satan and Drury.

If you object to the salary, fine, that's understandable... but to throw out a list of forwards like that, and imply that the talent in that list is "evidence" that Buffalo "has no use for Doug Weight," well, all I can say is...

:lol

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Now if you're thinking of trading Demitra,that's a different story
Someone else posted Demitra and cash ($1.5 million) for Biron and a second-rounder. I'd do that. I'd also be interested in getting Hecht back if possible.


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Uh, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Doug Weight is clearly a better NHL player than every one of those guys... with the possible exceptions of Satan and Drury.
If you object to the salary, fine, that's understandable... but to throw out a list of forwards like that, and imply that the talent in that list is "evidence" that Buffalo "has no use for Doug Weight," well, all I can say is...

Don't take DB too seriously when he compares other teams' players to the Sabres. This is the same guy who said Zdeno Chara wouldn't be the best player on the Sabres. Of course Weight would be one of the best, if not the best, forwards on the team and they certainly could use his talent. DB does have a point though, I don't think Buffalo is going to be willing to fork over the dough.



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Someone else posted Demitra and cash ($1.5 million) for Biron and a second-rounder. I'd do that. I'd also be interested in getting Hecht back if possible.

I'd make that deal. Don't get your hopes up on Hecht. I don't know if the point production was a career year or not (I certainly think he's capably of being a 50-60 point player regularly), but even if it isn't we're quite happy with him.

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06-20-2004, 06:38 PM
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Ryan Miller played 3 years at Michigan State and either won the Hobey Baker or was a finalist in his Junior season. Has played the bulk of the last 2 seasons in the AHL with Rochester. He's pretty much slotted as the backup to either Mikka or Marty.

One of those 2 guys will be moved.

But, trading goalies with Calgary? That makes no sense whatsoever.

LA, Edmonton, St. Louis, and Phoenix are more logical destinations for dealing a goalie as there is a need in those cities. Well, Edmonton, maybe not, because I really don't know how the Oilers feel about going with Conklin as their #1 man with Markennan as the backup.
Edmonton is fine with Conklin and Markkenan right now
and its more like Conklin is goalie 1A and Markkenan is goalie 1B

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06-20-2004, 08:01 PM
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How about
To Buf: Norstrom, Zizka
To LA: Biron, Milley

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How about
To Buf: Norstrom, Zizka
To LA: Biron, Milley
You're serious?!

Done and done, although I think that deal heavily favours the Sabres.


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we dont need turek!!

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How about
To Buf: Norstrom, Zizka
To LA: Biron, Milley
:lol that's a good one! You should through in Frolov while you're at it.
A deal involving Matty would have to be quite steap in return. For all you kids out there, remember to say no to drugs

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How about
To Buf: Norstrom, Zizka
To LA: Biron, Milley


Not even close, there is no way the Kings would make a deal like this!

how about
to Buf: E.Belanger + 3rd
L.A: Biron

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Weight does not really interest me that much at his tag but as DB48 has already said Demitra would be much more appealing.

To Buffalo: Demitra, cash

To St. Louis: Biron, 2nd

Kotalik could possibly be added for sweetener. I don't know if the 2nd is too much though...
For the 423,235th time, there's no way the Blues are going to pay money on a contract that doesn't even exist.

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How about:

To Buf - Chubarov, Malik
To Van - Noronen/Biron, McKee

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Uh, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Doug Weight is clearly a better NHL player than every one of those guys... with the possible exceptions of Satan and Drury.

If you object to the salary, fine, that's understandable... but to throw out a list of forwards like that, and imply that the talent in that list is "evidence" that Buffalo "has no use for Doug Weight," well, all I can say is...

Yeah,I really think that all of those guys are better then Weight...


But Weight will never come here because he's overpaid,and it would not be worth to add Weight,if we have to deal our next highest paid players to make room.

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How about:

To Buf - Chubarov, Malik
To Van - Noronen/Biron, McKee
How about Malik for Biron?

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How about:

To Buf - Chubarov, Malik
To Van - Noronen/Biron, McKee
How about NO?!?!?

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Yeah,I really think that all of those guys are better then Weight...
Then why did you say that the Sabres "had no use for Weight," and list all those players?


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But Weight will never come here because he's overpaid,and it would not be worth to add Weight,if we have to deal our next highest paid players to make room.
1. I proposed that the Blues eat several million of Weight's salary, or did you miss that part in your rush to be a homer and insult the Blues and a legitimate star player?

2. I believe it was you who said that the Sabres needed a top center who was good defensively. Did you think you were going to get that for peanuts?

Weight's your man.

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06-21-2004, 09:49 PM
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Then why did you say that the Sabres "had no use for Weight," and list all those players?




1. I proposed that the Blues eat several million of Weight's salary, or did you miss that part in your rush to be a homer and insult the Blues and a legitimate star player?

2. I believe it was you who said that the Sabres needed a top center who was good defensively. Did you think you were going to get that for peanuts?

Weight's your man.

Hmm...unless St.Louis eats more then half his salary,I'm not interested.Weight's already 33 and about to be 34 halfway through the season...Buffalo is not a cup team,so why deal for him?


And I meant we had no use for Doug Weight making several million and taking a spot over one of our youngsters.

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