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09-13-2008, 10:49 AM
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As far as PP goes, I'm expecting;

Higgins, Koivu, S. Kost*, Tanguay, Markov*
Kovalev*, Lang, A. Kost, Pleks, Hamrlik*

The *-names will run the point.

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09-13-2008, 10:50 AM
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No, Lang isn't a top center anymore and I don't think he still has it in him to help Kovalev like Plekanec did last year. They could try it out, they don't have anything to lose, but at this point I don't see him more as an insurance policy who can chip in offensively.

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09-13-2008, 10:57 AM
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They could try if the lines are in a slump but I can't imagine breaking up Kovy and Pleky at the start of the year. That line was the best one in Montreal in years.

My lines:
Kovalev-Plekanec-AKost
Tanguay-Koivu-Higgins
Latendresse-Lang-SKost
Laraque-Lapierre-Bégin

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09-13-2008, 11:04 AM
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by xmas it will be

koivu tanguay higgins

lang kovalev paccietty

plekanec s.kost a.kost

paccietty is our diamond in the rough and will definetely be putting
pressure on gainey by his play in hamilton.what do you guys think.
not sure what happens to latendresse though.

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09-13-2008, 11:06 AM
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No, Lang isn't a top center anymore and I don't think he still has it in him to help Kovalev like Plekanec did last year. They could try it out, they don't have anything to lose, but at this point I don't see him more as an insurance policy who can chip in offensively.
Maybe he's no Plekanec.. but he's still a top-40 centre in the NHL... playing on our third line..

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09-13-2008, 11:08 AM
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For the powerplay, here is what I'd like to see:

1rst unit:
Lang-Plekanec-Kovalev
Markov-A. Kostitsyn

Kovalev need to stay on the right side, it's his office. No one control the power play better than him from there and the diagonal pass by Markov is devastating. I put A. Kostitsyn on the point, 'cause we need a left handed shooter for a one timer ( to replace Streit), and if the play cycles Andrei can take Kovy's place. Lang I put him on the first unit, 'cause he is a right handed shooter which is a big plus, also he is big (6'2 210) so he can go in front of the net and he's got some pretty good deflection skills from the highlights i've seen.


2nd unit:
Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
Hamrlik-S. Kostitsyn


Good 2nd unit. Tanguay will play the same role as Kovalev on the 2nd unit, the catalyst of our powerplay. From the right side he can control the play, and he can unleash his quick wrist shot. Sergei Kostitsyn played on the point during his years in London and his short stint in Hamilton. We all know what he is capable of: great patience and superior vision. And once he learns to release his wrist shot faster he's gonna do a lot of damage. Higgins will go in front of the net for the garbage goals.

That's it... a lot of things can change during the season, but one thing is sure we have a lot of offensive depth. I can see Brisebois on the 2nd unit the few games he'll play, no matter what people say he is very good from the point. Also, I can see Laraque or Latendresse going in front of the net if our powerplay is struggling during a game.


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09-13-2008, 11:09 AM
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Keep the Kovalev line as it was.

No more tinkering.

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09-13-2008, 11:11 AM
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Keep the Kovalev line as it was.

No more tinkering.

Tinkering is what gave us Andrei-Pleks-Kovalev in the first place

Tinkering is good

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09-13-2008, 11:18 AM
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I don't like the idea of having two PP units with only one d-man...

Probably bring on Bouillon, Gorges... or even Komi (he's got a good shot)...

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Keep the Kovalev line as it was.

No more tinkering.
Nothing wrong with doing a bit of tinkering during training camp.

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09-13-2008, 11:24 AM
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Worth a try in the pre-season;

Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
S.Kostitsyn - Lang - Kovalev
Tanguay - Koivu - Latendresse
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

I wonder how good a Tanguay - Lang - Kovalev line would do.
ok so exuse my ignorance

Kovalev played for the Rangers, Pens, Canadians....? am i missing someone

Off the top of my head Lang has played for alot of freaking teams but I don't think those teams

where am i wrong?.........when were they on the same team?

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ok so exuse my ignorance

Kovalev played for the Rangers, Pens, Canadians....? am i missing someone

Off the top of my head Lang has played for alot of freaking teams but I don't think those teams

where am i wrong?.........when were they on the same team?
He was a Penguins, played on a line with Straka and Kovalev during Lemieuxs come back season.

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ohhhhhhhhh the Pens.........my bad

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I don't like the idea of having two PP units with only one d-man...

Probably bring on Bouillon, Gorges... or even Komi (he's got a good shot)...
Komisarek: as much as I like him, his shot hits the net 1 time out of 10.
Bouillon: No commentary
Gorges: I agree that he's got PP potential, but let's face the reality. The guy has yet to score a goal with the habs...

I think we're better off with 4 forwards.

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I want to play Tanguay with Andrei Kostitsyn personally. Elite setup man with budding-elite sniper.

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I want to play Tanguay with Andrei Kostitsyn personally. Elite setup man with budding-elite sniper.
i think that Tanguay is the perfect forward to complement Guillaume Latendresse. Not just because there both from here but because Tanguay is an elite puck carrier witch leaves more then enough time for Guillaume to go in the slot and either screen the goalie or fire a one-timer

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Could work well with Tanguay.

We wont see this but it could maybe work.
A.Kost-Pleks-Kovalev (proven line)
Tangay-Lang-S.Kost (total speculation but Tanguay could feed lang)
Higgins-Koivu-Lats
It's amazing, actually, how the centre of each line makes such a difference. I still think Koivu makes the better 2nd line centre, but if Lang proves his worth, that 2nd line has some serious potential. And providing that works, that 3rd line could work as well. Koivu works well with Higgins and Lats separately, but we have yet to see much of that 3 together. Who knows, it might work!? What a sweet position to be in!


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As far as PP goes, I'm expecting;

Higgins, Koivu, S. Kost*, Tanguay, Markov*
Kovalev*, Lang, A. Kost, Pleks, Hamrlik*

The *-names will run the point.
Man! It's obvious that we need another puck moving defenseman to man the other point with Markov!

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i think that Tanguay is the perfect forward to complement Guillaume Latendresse. Not just because there both from here but because Tanguay is an elite puck carrier witch leaves more then enough time for Guillaume to go in the slot and either screen the goalie or fire a one-timer
Here is my breakdown.


I know I want AK, Kovy and Latendresse playing the right wing (thus they won't be on the same line)


I know I want Higgins and Tanguay playing left (therefore not the same line)

Sk seems good at filling the hole wherever he is.. but is the most excisitng with his bro.

So...

SK - Pleks - AK or SK - Lang - AK or SK - Koivu - AK


ALL SEXY.. but Latendresse still needs VERY good playmakers or he's meh... therefore.. I'd put our best playmaking centre with him. And Lang is a little slow for the bros...

Therefore..



XXXX - Koivu - Lats
XXX - Lang - XXXX
SK - Pleks - AK



This leaves Kovalev as the only remaing true RW



XXXX - Koivu - Lats
XXX - Lang - Kovalev
SK - Pleks - AK




Then you can slot Higgins and Tanguay.


Higgins - Koivu - Lats is much weeker than Tanguay - Lang - Kovalev.

Tanguay - Koivu - Lats balances well with Higgins - Lang - Kovalev




Once in a while.. I'd like to see Tanguay - Koivu - Kovalev... *drools*



Tanguay - Koivu - Lats
Higgins - Lang - Kovalev
SK - Pleks - AK




No #1 2 3 line.. they're all #1 lines.

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i think that Tanguay is the perfect forward to complement Guillaume Latendresse. Not just because there both from here but because Tanguay is an elite puck carrier witch leaves more then enough time for Guillaume to go in the slot and either screen the goalie or fire a one-timer
Yes, I like the Tanguay-Koivu-Lats line! Two talentetd, creative guys with a potentially talented banger. Tanguay to carry the puck and dish to Koivu...Koivu to see the ice and distribute, Tanguay to shoot the puck and Lats to collect the garbage goal.

Now if we can get that puck moving Dman.

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#1. Andrei Kostitsyn - Tomas Plekanec - Alex Kovalev
#2. Alex Tanguay - Saku Koivu - Guillaume Latendresse
#3. Chris Higgins - Robert Lang - Sergei Kostitsyn

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First, let's clarify what I've been saying since the announcement came out that we had acquired Lang: there are no first, second or third line on this line-up as all 3 are gifted offensively while being responsible defensively, especially if Kovalev back checks the way he did last year. Carbonneau likes to rotate 4 lines equally anyway. The difference in ice time will be on the special teams.

Let's agree that Dandenault doesn't play for us this season. So my line combinations would be as follow, but could be easily change in the course of a game:

Tanguay - Koivu - Latendresse
Two outstanding playmakers and Latendresse adds size and scoring ability. Tanguay will have to shoot more though.
(18 G - 58 pts) - (16 G - 56 pts) - (16 G - 27 pts)
 
A.Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev
Why fix what isn't broken? Our best line last year, showed good chemistry.
(26 G - 53 pts) - (29 G - 69 pts) - (35 G - 84 pts)
 
Higgins - Lang - S.Kostitsyn
A combination of experience, youth, defensive awareness and offensive potential. I really like the dynamic of this line.
(27 G - 52 pts) - (21 G - 54 pts) - (9 G - 27 pts in 52 games)
 

On the fourth line, rotate Chipchura and Lapierre at center, and the wingers also rotate between Begin, Kostopoulos and Laraque.

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What are your lines?

Well now that the Sundin Saga has finally been put to rest, and the acquisition of Lang has occurred what are your lines?

Here's mine:

Tanguay-Koivu-Skost
A Kosty-Plecks-Kovy
Higgins-Lang-Lats
Begin-Lapierre/Chips-BGL

Markov-Komisarek
Hamrlik-Obyrne/Brisebois
Bouillon-Gorges

Price
Denis/Halak

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My lines:

A.Kost-Plekanec-Kovalev (if it's not broken, don't fix it)
Tanguay-Koivu-Latendresse (Lats will benifit from 2 great playmakers)
Higgins-Lang-S.Kost (a "two-way" line)
Kostopoulos-Lapierre-Laraque
Chipchura,Begin

Markov-Komisarek
Hamrlik-O'Byrne
Bouillon-Gorges
Brisebois

Price
Halak


PP Units:

Lang-Koivu-Tanguay
Markov-Kovalev

Higgins-Plekanec-A.Kost
Hamrlik-S.Kost

I want the bros to play together and on the same side on the PP.

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I like Lang on the 3rd line center. I like Lats with him as their overall speed will be about the same. I like S.Kost as the speedster on that line and better protected by 2 bigger forwards.

As for the PP, I don't want to move Kovalev from that right side half board, he is the General of the first line PP no matter who is at the point.

As for the center position during a PP. It all depends on who just had a shift. I really don't see a big problem. each line can just stay together and keep rolling during a PP. Their is enough fire power on each line to score PP goals. Lets not forget that once a line finds it's chemistry it's not good to break it up, it's a lots more about who will be the General on a PP for each line ( like Kovy,Lang,Tanguay as Generals)

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