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09-11-2008, 06:05 PM
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Radulov Trade

With Radulov wanting to come back to the NHL, there is no chance that the Predators should keep him so what are some possible trade options keeping in mind that he would be a $5M player in years to come?

To Pittsburgh for:

Staal
Filewich

or Sykora/Filewich


To Edmonton for:

Hemsky

To Tampa for:

Vrbata
Jokinen


To NJ for:

Gionta


To Colorado for:

Wolski
Svatos

To Buffalo for:

Pominville
McArthur


To Atlanta for:

Kovalchuk

add a 1st Round Pick to this trade


To LA for:

Kopitar

or O'Sullivan and prospect


or Frolov


Montreal for:

Higgins
or
Kostitsyn


SJ for:

Cheechoo or Michalek

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With Radulov wanting to come back to the NHL, there is no chance that the Predators should keep him so what are some possible trade options keeping in mind that he would be a $5M player in years to come?

To Pittsburgh for:

Staal
Filewich

Pens woudn't even do Staal straight up


To Edmonton for:

Hemsky

Might be done

To Tampa for:

Vrbata
Jokinen

Possibly


To NJ for:

Gionta

Can't see it happening

To Colorado for:

Wolski
Svatos

No way jose

To Buffalo for:

Pominville
McArthur

No way jose


To Atlanta for:

Kovalchuk

add a 1st Round Pick to this trade

B]No way jose[/B]

Add a few more first rounders, like 3

To LA for:

Kopitar

or O'Sullivan and prospect


or Frolov

Kopitar >> Radulov, Frolov > Radulov, O'Sullivan = Radulov

Montreal for:

Higgins
or
Kostitsyn

Why would they want him after all this?


SJ for:

Cheechoo or Michalek

Maybe they'll give you Cheechoo, not Michalek
There you go

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any options of your own?

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any options of your own?
You're right, i should put my money where my mouth is. But its kinda hard to gauge Radulov's value when we haven't heard anything from Radulov himself. As of right now, his value has dropped significantly and I doubt teams would take a risk on him unless he is 100% committed to the NHL.

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09-11-2008, 07:49 PM
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With Radulov wanting to come back to the NHL, there is no chance that the Predators should keep him so what are some possible trade options keeping in mind that he would be a $5M player in years to come?

To Pittsburgh for:

Staal
Filewich

or Sykora/Filewich


To Edmonton for:

Hemsky

To Tampa for:

Vrbata
Jokinen


To NJ for:

Gionta


To Colorado for:

Wolski
Svatos

To Buffalo for:

Pominville
McArthur


To Atlanta for:

Kovalchuk

add a 1st Round Pick to this trade


To LA for:

Kopitar

or O'Sullivan and prospect


or Frolov


Montreal for:

Higgins
or
Kostitsyn


SJ for:

Cheechoo or Michalek
None of those trades would work. One team or the other isn't going to be satisfied with the return. Radulov is not even close to being worth Kopitar or Kovalchuk and DEFINITELY not BOTH Wolski and Svatos. Pominville was a PPG player last year. Hemsky is the face of the Oilers, he goes nowhere. The Pens need wingers but I could only see Staal moved for one if they get pretty desperate. If we traded Radulov for Jokinen and Vrbata I may start looking for another team to support.

I'd just as soon keep Radulov and I think upper management will want to as well. Didn't he say all he wanted was a contract extension before his RFA year, like Malkin? I don't see a thing wrong with wanting a little certainty in terms of where you'll be playing for the next 4-5 years.


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09-11-2008, 08:24 PM
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The only difference between Malkin and Radulov is:

Radulov turned his back on his team while under contract
Radulov bad mouthed the NHL for stealing players from Russia
Radulov knocked out a teammate during the most important time of the year
Radulov's liablities were noted by his own country during the World's where he was either a healthy scratch or a 4th liner
Radulov actually signed a contract and played for a team in the KHL, where Malkin merely threatened it
Malkin has gone on to lead his team to the Stanley Cup final


So don't even begin to compare the two.

The whole idea of this post was to see what possible options Nashville may have if Rad comes back.

New Options:

Rad for:

ANA: Kunitz


BUF: Afinogenov


CAR: Williams in Carolina....not Atlanta


EDM: Moreau and Pouliot


LA: Brown


NJD: Zubrus


PHI: Knuble and Upshall


TB: Ouellet and Halpern


TOR: Blake

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The only difference between Malkin and Radulov is:

Radulov turned his back on his team while under contract
Radulov bad mouthed the NHL for stealing players from Russia
Radulov knocked out a teammate during the most important time of the year
Radulov's liablities were noted by his own country during the World's where he was either a healthy scratch or a 4th liner
Radulov actually signed a contract and played for a team in the KHL, where Malkin merely threatened it
Malkin has gone on to lead his team to the Stanley Cup final


So don't even begin to compare the two.
I'm not even going to try to refute this because it's totally not what I was trying to say.

Malkin is just one example of a common practice in locking up players the year before or early into the final year of their contract. Kevin Bieksa, Radek Martinek, and Dustin Brown are other examples. Hell, Richard Park got a contract extension like 20 games into the season and he's about on par with Fiddler. We did it with Vokoun not too long ago. Radulov wanting that extension early is reasonable, IMO. If he wanted a long-term deal, as he claimed, I would see no reason for the organization to not give it to him, do you He may be the best pure goal scorer on this team and has a great deal of potential.

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New Options:

Rad for:

ANA: Kunitz

Burke laughs so hard his hair falls out. Kunitz is THE Brian Burke player, no way do they move him.

BUF: Afinogenov

This would probably be done and isn't an outright terrible deal for us. Afinogenov could stand to rebound from a bad year and always gave 100% in Buffalo last season. I'd like to see more added to that offer, though.

CAR: Williams in Carolina....not Atlanta

They already have Samsonov, would they really want Radulov?

EDM: Moreau and Pouliot

Does Poile at least get dinner and a movie?

LA: Brown

Let's just avoid trades that involve LA's best players and/or future captain from now on, okay?

NJD: Zubrus

Not at that salary.

PHI: Knuble and Upshall

Upshall couldn't stay in the lineup on his first tour of duty here, why try again?

TB: Ouellet and Halpern

Halpern is on IR and may be lucky to play 30 games this season.

TOR: Blake

At that price tag? Pass.
We're getting way ahead of ourselves here, talking about Radulov like he's already on a plane back to Nashville. If/when he reports to camp, we can dig this thread back up and speculate some more, but right now it's a bit optimistic to think he's going to play in North America this season.

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09-11-2008, 09:44 PM
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No way Radulov for Hemsky. Hemsky is very good, and has an amazingly cheap and long term contract.

Plus Oilers shy away from Russins exactly because they threaten to go elsewhere. This guy actually did.

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The only difference between Malkin and Radulov is:
Malkin is a Franchise center

Radulov is not

nuff said

That being said

Prucha, Sjostrom and a 2nd rounder for Radulov is what I'd offer

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can i get some of what ur smokin?
Exactly, I thought stupid trade offers came from Habs fans only, I keed I keed.

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The only difference between Malkin and Radulov is:

Radulov turned his back on his team while under contract
Radulov bad mouthed the NHL for stealing players from Russia
Radulov knocked out a teammate during the most important time of the year
Radulov's liablities were noted by his own country during the World's where he was either a healthy scratch or a 4th liner
Radulov actually signed a contract and played for a team in the KHL, where Malkin merely threatened it
Malkin has gone on to lead his team to the Stanley Cup final


So don't even begin to compare the two.

The whole idea of this post was to see what possible options Nashville may have if Rad comes back.

New Options:

Rad for:

ANA: Kunitz


BUF: Afinogenov


CAR: Williams in Carolina....not Atlanta


EDM: Moreau and Pouliot


LA: Brown


NJD: Zubrus


PHI: Knuble and Upshall


TB: Ouellet and Halpern


TOR: Blake
The Flyer might not really do it, but as a Flyers fan I'd make that Knuble and Upshall for Radulov deal in a heart beat.

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LOL@Radulov for Hemsky

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The most I'd be willing to give up for Radulov right now is a third. If there's more than speculation that he might come back to the NHL, Wolski OR Svatos can come into the equation. Until then, he's not worth the risk at all.

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you want blakes contract...i don't even care if radulov ever plays another nhl game again.

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If Radulov is traded, he would be traded for far less than what he is worth.

The Predators will have a hard time finding or acquiring a player that can replicate Radulov's production for the money.

If he does come back and displays a good attitude, I think we'll see him here this season. That might upset the people that don't realize that hockey is a business.

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If Radulov is traded, he would be traded for far less than what he is worth.

The Predators will have a hard time finding or acquiring a player that can replicate Radulov's production for the money.

If he does come back and displays a good attitude, I think we'll see him here this season. That might upset the people that don't realize that hockey is a business.
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Radulov knocked out a teammate during the most important time of the year
You can't still hold that against Radulov. He was caught up in the celebration and it's not like he meant to do it. It was unfortunate that it happened but it could have happened to anyone. If it was Weber that knocked Arnott out people would say it was an accident but with Radulov he's somehow the villian. These things happen, players get hit with slapshots by their teammates and miss time, or have a mid-ice collision and one gets knocked out for a period of time. They don't have this held against them for the rest of their lives or career.

Losing Arnott was not the reason we lost the series to Detroit. It certainly didn't help our chances, but losing him was not why we lost to the eventual Stanley Cup Champions. Remember in the first 2 games, when Arnott was healthy, he didn't even register a shot, maybe he had one, and Tootoo was our leading goal scorer (I think he was tied with Radulov actually). In game 5 we allowed 50+ shots and only scored one goal and then in game 6 we scored 0 so that kind of had a little to do with losing. And it wasn't Radulov's fault that in game 5 we had Bonk, Smithson, Fiddler as our top centers. And then in gm6 added Nichol, whose thumb was being held together with screws.


Now I'm not saying that Radulov is some saint or anything, just that it's not like we would have won the Cup with Arnott in the lineup.

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You can't still hold that against Radulov. He was caught up in the celebration and it's not like he meant to do it. It was unfortunate that it happened but it could have happened to anyone. If it was Weber that knocked Arnott out people would say it was an accident but with Radulov he's somehow the villian. These things happen, players get hit with slapshots by their teammates and miss time, or have a mid-ice collision and one gets knocked out for a period of time. They don't have this held against them for the rest of their lives or career.



Now I'm not saying that Radulov is some saint or anything, just that it's not like we would have won the Cup with Arnott in the lineup.

Not that I care one way or the other, but the difference is that Trotz specifically told him to tone down the celebrations last season as if he had some sort of wierd foresight.

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With all the draft picks that we have its too bad we didn't trade for Lang. He has been a sniper against the Preds for a few years and could have been a great player to go along side of our top 2 lines.

Hornqvist is for sure a top line player! Jones the jury is still out?

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With all the draft picks that we have its too bad we didn't trade for Lang. He has been a sniper against the Preds for a few years and could have been a great player to go along side of our top 2 lines.
While Lang is a Predators killer, I don't think we have the room for him up top as he's a center.

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Hornqvist is for sure a top line player! Jones the jury is still out?
Hornqvist is not for sure a top line player. He is an outstanding prospect who has done well in Europe and for his country at world tournaments. And yes he had a good camp last year, but that doesn't mean that he is 'for sure' a top line player. He has to prove that he can hang at the NHL level. Do I think he will? Yes, but I wouldn't say he's "for sure" a top line player. Anything can happen.

As for Jones, no one knows. He's only played a few AHL games. He is definitely a bigger question mark than Hornqvist.

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None of these trades would ever happen, the only one I read that the predators and other team might like, was the first tampa nashville trade.

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At this point, Radulov trade would look like this.

??????

He really has not much value considering he is in Russia. If he comes back, then he won't have as much desire as he probably use to.

The only Nashville trade I see coming is this one.

To Atlanta:
de Vries.

To Nashville:
$1 or a 5th round pick.

However, this would be sweet.

To Atlanta:
Radulov
de Vries
1st in 09
3rd in 09

To Nashville:
Ilya Kovalchuk
Boris Valabik

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I would take it in a heart beat!!!! I would even through in a prospect like Setzinger, Maki, K.Wilson or Thang to sweeten the deal

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He really has not much value considering he is in Russia. If he comes back, then he won't have as much desire as he probably use to.
What are you basing this on? I realize this is a message board and logic can be suspended during typing, but why would his desire be less? Are his priorities different now?

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