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09-15-2008, 03:34 AM
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Rissmiller

Since we have a who is Vooroos thread, I thought I would start a similar thread for Rissmiller.

Who is he & what can we expect from him?

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09-15-2008, 04:26 AM
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This has basically been discussed in multiple threads, especially the ones discussing the depth or surplus of 3rd/4th line types. SJ fans chimed in when we first signed him in the original thread about his signing.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t...ght=rissmiller

I know that thread is old but the info about his style of play is accurate and frankly so are all the speculations regarding about where he and others fit in with the Rangers now and in the future.

Here's another thread from the SJ board where a Rangers fan inquired about what to expect from Rissmiller.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t...ght=rissmiller


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Hartford...too expensive and not good enough to be on the 4th line over guys like Callahan, Sjostrom, and Voros.

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Hartford...too expensive and not good enough to be on the 4th line over guys like Callahan, Sjostrom, and Voros.

Why was he signed than? Replacement for someone Sather thought he wasn't gonna be able to re-sign?

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he looks more like an insurance policy than anything else right now....although if the sundin rumors are true then we might see some of the depth traded which could open a spot for rissmiller.....

he would add some size and offensive ability to the 4th line but that is betts' spot and rissmiller would have to show a lot in order to take it from him

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He's a depth move no doubt.

Its tough to see where this guy fits, especially if they sign Shanahan.

If they don't its realistic he'll rotate in and out of the 4th but thats no guarantee either. This was a bit of a confusing move by Sather. But he can kill penalties, hes a big guy (though he doesnt use the size as much as a team would like) and he's got better hands then Hollweg. (who doesnt?)

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He's a depth move no doubt.

Its tough to see where this guy fits, especially if they sign Shanahan.

If they don't its realistic he'll rotate in and out of the 4th but thats no guarantee either. This was a bit of a confusing move by Sather. But he can kill penalties, hes a big guy (though he doesnt use the size as much as a team would like) and he's got better hands then Hollweg. (who doesnt?)
I think it is obvious he will get 4th line minutes and be a Energy player........PLUS if Betts goes down to another injury he is the 4th line C and a good PK guy

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like i said, i think rissmiller was signed more as a stop-gap in case he couldnt pull off a move for zherdev+fritsche and couldnt sign a naslund......he would move to the third line and center that line with dubi moving up.........however sather was able to pull off those deals which either means sather will let him go or make a trade to either move him or make room for him....becuase 1 million sitting on the bench just doesnt make much sense

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He's a depth move no doubt.
He would appear to be a depth player but he's not being paid as such.

I don't know where he fits. Then again, I'm not sure where Vorros, Orr, Korpikoski, Sjostrom and possibly even Betts do either. Add in the likes of Jessiman, Byers and even Jamtin and there is seemingly a lot of redundancy. And certainly a lot of questions.

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He would appear to be a depth player but he's not being paid as such.

I don't know where he fits. Then again, I'm not sure where Vorros, Orr, Korpikoski, Sjostrom and possibly even Betts do either. Add in the likes of Jessiman, Byers and even Jamtin and there is seemingly a lot of redundancy. And certainly a lot of questions.
Wheres the expansion draft when you need one?

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09-15-2008, 11:58 AM
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Rissmiller and Voros' signings were truly perplexing this offseason. When it comes to organizational talent at forward, I thought 3rd/4th liners was where the most depth could be found...then we sign these 2 for more depth?

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Hartford...too expensive and not good enough to be on the 4th line over guys like Callahan, Sjostrom, and Voros.
agreed

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He would appear to be a depth player but he's not being paid as such.

I don't know where he fits. Then again, I'm not sure where Vorros, Orr, Korpikoski, Sjostrom and possibly even Betts do either. Add in the likes of Jessiman, Byers and even Jamtin and there is seemingly a lot of redundancy. And certainly a lot of questions.
There are good & bad points, if they are steady in there roles as PKers & checkers that's great, if they continue the trend of scoring 5 to 7 goals a year that's the bad side.

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Hes Big but doesnt take the body, but is a good Pk'er.

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A decent grinder...simply a depth player.

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He would appear to be a depth player but he's not being paid as such.

I don't know where he fits. Then again, I'm not sure where Vorros, Orr, Korpikoski, Sjostrom and possibly even Betts do either. Add in the likes of Jessiman, Byers and even Jamtin and there is seemingly a lot of redundancy. And certainly a lot of questions.
That about sums it up for me.

Voros I could understand, but not the length of the deal.

Rissmiller, was just one of those "Okaay..." moves.

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Rissmiller and Voros' signings were truly perplexing this offseason. When it comes to organizational talent at forward, I thought 3rd/4th liners was where the most depth could be found...then we sign these 2 for more depth?
I totally agree. When I saw that we signed these guys before any one else I wondered what planet Sather was on. Everyone expected the depth to come from Hartford that had a very good season last year but instead Sather replaced guys like Straka, Avery and Hollweg with Rissmiller and Voros instead of letting young players like Jamtin, Dane Byers, Korpikoski or Parenteau get an opportunity. I cannot see us sending either Voros or Rissmiller down to Hartford so those young players will have to toil down at the AHL level for at least another half a season. And I think that sucks.

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09-19-2008, 10:00 AM
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he was signed...

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Why was he signed than? Replacement for someone Sather thought he wasn't gonna be able to re-sign?
He was signed in case the kids in camp couldn't cut it.

It was as win win situation.

If they don't make the team, then they are pretty good players they can develop a bit more or use in trades.

If they make the team, it gives the prospects another year to develop.

If you have to pay for Depth, so be it.

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If you have to pay for Depth, so be it.
To some extent, but I don't think you commit $2-million dollars and multiple years to depth in a salary capped world and in one where you're going right to the cap limit.

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i dont think voros and rismiller are in the same boat.........considering voros was signed for 3 seasons i think they want him to replace some of the tenacity that avery and hollweg left and rissmiller IMO was signed more as insurance if the rangers couldnt make a trade like the tyutin and backman for zherdev and fritsche and sign naslund...without those three players rissmiller would most likely be a top-6 on this team

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i dont think voros and rismiller are in the same boat.........considering voros was signed for 3 seasons i think they want him to replace some of the tenacity that avery and hollweg left and rissmiller IMO was signed more as insurance if the rangers couldnt make a trade like the tyutin and backman for zherdev and fritsche and sign naslund...without those three players rissmiller would most likely be a top-6 on this team
Problem is I don't think it's a move you make on the first day of free agency.

It's one thing to have insurance, it's another thing to go out and dedicate $2-million to two fourth line players who based on their accomplishments should not be considered "givens" at this point in time. On top of that, it's usually not the first move you make within the first hours of free agency.

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I went to Holy Cross and was actually a play-by-play broadcaster for them for 3 years while Rissmiller was there (he graduated when I was a junior). He led the league in scoring once and was easily our best forward...

Now, he won't score much in the pros, even though he was fairly good in the AHL. What you can expect is a guy who can kill penalties, is strong in both zones, and is hard to knock off the puck. Basically, he's the perfect fourth line player, and is certainly a HUGE improvement over that waste of life Ryan Hollwegg.

Unfortunately for Rissmiller, the team is loaded with good role players, so he will have a battle ahead of him. I believe he will make the team and be their starting 4th line winger, but will take a seat against teams like Philly to put Orr, Voros, and the other tough guys into the lineup. Personally, I think he was a good signing, but would've been a much better signing at $600K instead of 3 years at 3 mil.

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