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09-15-2008, 09:17 AM
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Who will play the point on the PP?

Along with Andrei Markov and assuming it is a forward maning the right point, who is your choice to rotate there?

I know Sergei K. has some experience but he doesn't have the bullet shot required to play there. I'd hate to lose Kovy's presence around the net. How about Tanguay? Does he have any experience at the point?

If it is to be a defenseman, I know many will say it will be Brisebois but I can't see Brisebois being in the top 6 on D and having a regular spot, notwithstanding injuries. Hamrlik is OK but not a permanent solution. Gorges maybe?

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09-15-2008, 09:26 AM
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A. Kost should man the point with Tanguay going on to the left wing for the first PP line.

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09-15-2008, 09:28 AM
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I would try Andrei Kostitsyn. He's got a great shot, and he could replace Streit on the right side for the one timer (we need a left-handed shooter). If the play cycles he can also take Kovy's place 'cause he is a natural winger who's confortable on the right side. Also, we have a lot of wingers to replace him in front of the net.

If it does not work, try Tanguay. He's got a great shot, superb vision and he is pretty good defensively.

Sergei Kostitsyn is also a good backup solution even though he lacks NHL experience. He played that position in Hamilton and London, so it's not new to him.

One thing is sure, I would like, at least for the start of the season, to run the power play with 4 forwards and see the results. If we are too vulnerable defensively, we might need to use two defensemen. In this situation, Hamrlik, Brisebois or may be gorges if he increases his offensive skills this year.

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A. Kost should man the point with Tanguay going on to the left wing for the first PP line.
For the left wing on our first unit i'd rather see a big guy who's not afraid to go in traffic, hide the goalie and score garbage goal (like Akost last year). Tanguay is more of a perimeter player.

Here is my last post on the subject:

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For the powerplay, here is what I'd like to see:

1rst unit:
Lang-Plekanec-Kovalev
Markov-A. Kostitsyn

Kovalev need to stay on the right side, it's his office. No one control the power play better than him from there and the diagonal pass by Markov is devastating. I put A. Kostitsyn on the point, 'cause we need a left handed shooter for a one timer ( to replace Streit), and if the play cycles Andrei can take Kovy's place. Lang I put him on the first unit, 'cause he is a right handed shooter which is a big plus, also he is big (6'2 210) so he can go in front of the net and he's got some pretty good deflection skills from the highlights i've seen.


2nd unit:
Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
Hamrlik-S. Kostitsyn


Good 2nd unit. Tanguay will play the same role as Kovalev on the 2nd unit, the catalyst of our powerplay. From the right side he can control the play, and he can unleash his quick wrist shot. Sergei Kostitsyn played on the point during his years in London and his short stint in Hamilton. We all know what he is capable of: great patience and superior vision. And once he learns to release his wrist shot faster he's gonna do a lot of damage. Higgins will go in front of the net for the garbage goals.

That's it... a lot of things can change during the season, but one thing is sure we have a lot of offensive depth. I can see Brisebois on the 2nd unit the few games he'll play, no matter what people say he is very good from the point. Also, I can see Laraque or Latendresse going in front of the net if our powerplay is struggling during a game.

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09-15-2008, 09:34 AM
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I would try Andrei Kostitsyn. He's got a great shot, and he could replace Streit on the right side for the one timer (we need a left-handed shooter). If the play cycles he can also take Kovy's place 'cause he is a natural winger who's confortable on the right side. Also, we have a lot of wingers to replace him in front of the net.

If it does not work, try Tanguay. He's got a great shot, superb vision and he is pretty good defensively.

Sergei Kostitsyn is also a good backup solution even though he lacks NHL experience. He played that position in Hamilton and London, so it's not new to him.

One thing is sure, I would like, at least for the start of the season, to run the power play with 4 forwards and see the results. If we are too vulnerable defensively, we might need to use two defensemen. In this situation, Hamrlik, Brisebois or may be gorges if he increases his offensive skills this year.
Andrei on the point of the first PP unit is not a bad idea. You'd have:

First Unit
Center: Pleck
RW: Kovy
LW: Lang (he has the same move from the circle as kovy, but on the left side). Check his vids out
RD: Andrei
LD: Andrei (Markov)

Second Unit:
Center: Saku
RW: Tanguay
LW: Higgs or Tender, depending who's hot that night
LD: Hammer
RD: Sergei

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As far as I remember, when Brisebois wasn't in the lineup, it was Markov-Streit for most of the PP.

I'd like to see both Kostitsyns try manning the 1st unit right point, but we'll probably see both Gorges and Komisarek when Brisebois isn't playing.

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Andrei on the point of the first PP unit is not a bad idea. You'd have:

First Unit
Center: Pleck
RW: Kovy
LW: Lang (he has the same move from the circle as kovy, but on the left side). Check his vids out
RD: Andrei
LD: Andrei (Markov)

Second Unit:
Center: Saku
RW: Tanguay
LW: Higgs or Tender, depending who's hot that night
LD: Hammer
RD: Sergei
I think it's safe to say this would never happen.

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A. Kost should man the point with Lang going on to the left wing for the first PP line.
Lang has the ability to get some 'garbage' goals in front of the net, not to mention he brings a right handed shot if im not mistaken which would be great for one-timers.

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Lang has the ability to get some 'garbage' goals in front of the net, not to mention he brings a right handed shot if im not mistaken which would be great for one-timers.
I'd actually put Saku on Lang's wing for the PP.

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I'd like Markov to take over Mark Streit's role as the trigger man on the point. So any of Tanguay, Lang, S. Kostitsyn or Brisebois (when dressed) could excel in the role of his setup-man.

PP#1

A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev

Tanguay - Markov

PP#2

Lang - Koivu - Higgins

S. Kostitsyn - Hamrlik

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My gut tells me Brisebois will start the season paired with Hamrlik. Therefore, I think the pp lines opening night will be:

Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Kovalev
Markov-Kostitsyn

Lang-Koivu-Tanguay
Hamrlik-Brisebois

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I think it's safe to say this would never happen.
Of course...how obvious

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Of course...how obvious
Reason being Carbo would want Markov out there for the first 1:30, and he'll want 2 defencemen out there when the PP ends. Not much point in having a forward on the point for the 2nd unit if he won't see much time anyway.

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TDG says that Timmins told him that it looks like Tanguay will get a shot on the point on the PP.

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Reason being Carbo would want Markov out there for the first 1:30, and he'll want 2 defencemen out there when the PP ends. Not much point in having a forward on the point for the 2nd unit if he won't see much time anyway.
So you're saying, instead of Sergei on the second unit, it would be, say, Georges or Breezer.

Ok makes sense

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PP#1

A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev

S. Kostitsyn - Markov

PP#2

Lang - Koivu - Tanguay

Brisebois - Hamrlik

We shouldn't have a problem again this year on the pp and I expect a top 5

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So you're saying, instead of Sergei on the second unit, it would be, say, Georges or Breezer.

Ok makes sense
or Komisarek.

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Along with Andrei Markov and assuming it is a forward maning the right point, who is your choice to rotate there?

I know Sergei K. has some experience but he doesn't have the bullet shot required to play there. I'd hate to lose Kovy's presence around the net. How about Tanguay? Does he have any experience at the point?

If it is to be a defenseman, I know many will say it will be Brisebois but I can't see Brisebois being in the top 6 on D and having a regular spot, notwithstanding injuries. Hamrlik is OK but not a permanent solution. Gorges maybe?

My vote goes to Hamrlik on the #1 unit and Brisebois on the #2 unit. If that doesn't work out, switch them and if THAT doesn't work out.....try Tanguay, S.Kostitsyn or Kovalev there. I would even be willing to give Gorges some powerplay time too.....just to see what he can do.

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No Higgins on PP???

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I see Sergei K. being at the point on the PP

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No Higgins on PP???
I'm was wondering the same. 25 points on the PP and still no credit.

My units would be:

Tanguay Plekanec Kostitsyn jr
Markov Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Latendresse
Hamrlik Kostitsyn sr

+ possibly playing fitting in Brisebois for right handed point shot.

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People who puts Markov on the right side during the PP forgets how devastating was his diagonal set-ups to Kovy for the one-timer.
We scored at least 6-7 goals on this play last year.

Also Markov likes to pinch up to the the middle of the faceoff circle waiting for a pass, so if he is on the left side he can fires his shot much faster.

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I'm was wondering the same. 25 points on the PP and still no credit.

My units would be:

Tanguay Plekanec Kostitsyn jr
Markov Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Latendresse
Hamrlik Kostitsyn sr

+ possibly playing fitting in Brisebois for right handed point shot.
Change Sergei by Lang, in my opinion...

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I'm was wondering the same. 25 points on the PP and still no credit.

My units would be:

Tanguay Plekanec Kostitsyn jr
Markov Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Latendresse
Hamrlik Kostitsyn sr

+ possibly playing fitting in Brisebois for right handed point shot.
Kovalev is too letal on the rw to be put on the point imo

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Definite possibility of S Kost on the point. He did it in Jr (alone with 4 other forwards cycling). He plays a good responsible defensive style and is reliable with the puck.

I don't think A Kost is as good as his bro from a defensive play standpoint

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We're going to have 3 very strong and fairly even offensive lines. Why not simply keep the lines together and have three PP units. Everybody's happy and getting some time on the PP and the lines aren't disrupted.

At the point, Markov usually plays at least 80-90 seconds of it. On the right side, use Brisebois or Gorges or Hammer.

Just a thought...

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