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09-16-2008, 11:28 AM
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Pure Speculation: Could we Acquire Kovalchuk?!

I think the Habs could aquire Kovalchuk at the trade deadline. what do you think?

We have a cap space of 1 million dollars, .. If we drop Dandy (waivers) it becomes 2.7 million. The NHLPA will keep things going as is we can move .750 million to next year for Breezer... leaving us with 3.4 million at trade deadline.

Kovalchuk's salary is 6.389 million a year

we only need to have 2.13 million of cap space at the trade deadline. For the 09-10 season he's under contract, but Brisebois will be gone, and so will Bouillon, Lang, Begin, Kostopoulos, Tanguay ?, Kovalev? Koivu?

Which one would u keep to fit in under the cap? If you bring in Kovalchuk



* Getting Kovalchuk is possible, because he probably doesn't want to stay in Atlanta past 09-10, we can move our 1st and 2nd round pick for him (or more) for his services in the playoffs and 09-10 then resigning him past 09-10.


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09-16-2008, 11:32 AM
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I think the Habs could aquire Kovalchuk at the trade deadline. what do you think?

We have a cap space of 1 million dollars, .. If we drop Dandy (waivers) it becomes 2.7 million. The NHLPA will keep things going as is we can move .750 million to next year for Breezer... leaving us with 3.4 million at trade deadline.

Kovalchuk's salary is 6.389 million a year

we only need to have 2.13 million of cap space at the trade deadline. For the 09-10 season he's under contract, but Brisebois will be gone, and so will Bouillon, Lang, Begin, Kostopoulos, Tanguay ?, Kovalev? Koivu?

Which one would u keep to fit in under the cap? If you bring in Kovalchuk



* Getting Kovalchuk is possible, because he probably doesn't want to stay in Atlanta past 09-10, we can move our 1st and 2nd round pick for him (or more) for his services in the playoffs and 09-10 then resigning him past 09-10.


Everything is possible,but do you have any idea what the return would be?Look at what the Trashers got in return for Hossa and make the Kovalchuk x 3

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Kovalchuk is signed another year, so he would cost a lot more than a usual deadline acquisition (so start thinking about moving names like the Kostitsyns, Higgins, Komisarek, Pacioretty, etc in addition to the salary dumps). I don't think it's worth it.

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To have a pure goal scorer added to the line up like that would be spectacular.
I am sure Atlanta will pay whatever he wants though he is their only attraction, but you are probably right he will want out.

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I think the Habs could aquire Kovalchuk at the trade deadline. what do you think?

We have a cap space of 1 million dollars, .. If we drop Dandy (waivers) it becomes 2.7 million. The NHLPA will keep things going as is we can move .750 million to next year for Breezer... leaving us with 3.4 million at trade deadline.

Kovalchuk's salary is 6.389 million a year

we only need to have 2.13 million of cap space at the trade deadline. For the 09-10 season he's under contract, but Brisebois will be gone, and so will Bouillon, Lang, Begin, Kostopoulos, Tanguay ?, Kovalev? Koivu?

Which one would u keep to fit in under the cap? If you bring in Kovalchuk



* Getting Kovalchuk is possible, because he probably doesn't want to stay in Atlanta past 09-10, we can move our 1st and 2nd round pick for him (or more) for his services in the playoffs and 09-10 then resigning him past 09-10.
Even if we could fit it under the cap, and Atlanta decided to move him, the cost would be enormous.

Think our 1st, McDonagh, Pacioretty, and Higgins.

*Maybe* Atlanta bites at that. Maybe add Valentenko, or more. Kovalchuk is one of the top players in the league.

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It would take way more than just picks...
IMO the return should be better than the Thornton trade.

Higgins, Komisarek, Latendresse could make Atlanta consider it... if and only if they are 100% sure Kovalchuk doesn't want to stay in Atlanta.

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Atlanta will NEVER trade Kovalchuck.

The only way he leaves Atlanta is when he becomes a UFA

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I think the Habs could aquire Kovalchuk at the trade deadline. what do you think?

We have a cap space of 1 million dollars, .. If we drop Dandy (waivers) it becomes 2.7 million. The NHLPA will keep things going as is we can move .750 million to next year for Breezer... leaving us with 3.4 million at trade deadline.

Kovalchuk's salary is 6.389 million a year

we only need to have 2.13 million of cap space at the trade deadline. For the 09-10 season he's under contract, but Brisebois will be gone, and so will Bouillon, Lang, Begin, Kostopoulos, Tanguay ?, Kovalev? Koivu?

Which one would u keep to fit in under the cap? If you bring in Kovalchuk



* Getting Kovalchuk is possible, because he probably doesn't want to stay in Atlanta past 09-10, we can move our 1st and 2nd round pick for him (or more) for his services in the playoffs and 09-10 then resigning him past 09-10.


The Habs would have to give up most of their roster players just to aquire Kovalchuk....so whats the sense in getting him if he isn't going to have anybody to play with besides Laraque, Kostopoulos and Begin????

I am more than happy with the roster we have right now. There is a ton of potential in our lineup and I have a feeling we'll do good things this season.

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Atlanta will NEVER trade Kovalchuck.

The only way he leaves Atlanta is when he becomes a UFA
Waddel knows he will probably leave,like Hossa if he can't sign him by the trade deadline next year I think he will move him cause if he doesn't they are going to lose him for nothing

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Atlanta will NEVER trade Kovalchuck.

The only way he leaves Atlanta is when he becomes a UFA
I agree, the crowd in Atlanta would drop below 10k...

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It would probably cost us

Komisarek,Higgins,2 solid prospects and a 1st round pick at least.And no they don't need a goalie so no Halak

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So is this an idea to start a Trade Rumor as the title suggests?

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Why not just wait for him to hit free agency?

He might want to come here if the Habs keep on winning, we could trade one of our many players who will make more dough for a pick or two to make the cap space. Or not resign Tanguay with a NTC.

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What a great Idea...
I say we go after Ovechkin after getting Kovalchuk..

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Why not just wait for him to hit free agency?

He might want to come here if the Habs keep on winning, we could trade one of our many players who will make more dough for a pick or two to make the cap space. Or not resign Tanguay with a NTC.
Ya but what are the odds a superstar signs here as a FA?I always said it,if we are going to get superstars,it's going have to be via a Trade or draft him cause winning team or not I don't think every player wants to play here

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What a great Idea...
I say we go after Ovechkin after getting Kovalchuk..
What about Crosby?Who the hell is gonna center those 2?


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Just a question. Why is there the word rumour in the title?

Are we discussing and evaluating the creation of a rumour ? Is that the difference between a "trade idea" and a "trade rumour idea"?

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It won't happen because, as others said, it would cost us too many roster players, 2 or 3 of them core players.

But, for the sake of discussion, lets say we move Higgs, Komi, 2 prospects and a pick, we could easily sign all our UFAs and keep Kovalchuck as Higgs + Komi next year will cost us more than Kovalchuck.

We have plenty of space to sign Higgins, Komi, Kovy, Koivu, Plekanec and Tender next year, with about 10 million left

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this thread is a joke

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you don't dismantle a cup contending team chemistry at the TRADE DEADLINE for 1 player !! ... let the bruins have him

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I think the Habs could aquire Kovalchuk at the trade deadline. what do you think?

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My take on this is very simple. When the habs needed to get better they tried getting ufas. the free agency market isn't what you want to use to rebuild your team.

Paying 4m+ for ryder and streit isn't going to get you a better team in the long run.

plus, players won't be willing to sign on a loosing, rebuilding team.

You want to do a trade and start rebuilding from within... that's what we did. And now since we have a ''top 9 '' instead of a top 6 this year, I think we are better off than most of the teams in our division, conference.

Polls last year showed that the players thought montreal was the best hockey city/fans... as long as our team is going to be winning , we'll be able to get the ufas we weren't able to acquire before....

which means, no need to rush a trade... sign kovalchuck in two years for nothing.

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What about Crosby?Who the hell is gonna center those 2?
Can Higgins play centre? What about Sergei Kostitsyn?

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1st, 2nd, Pacioretty, Latendresse, Lapierre, and McDonagh.

That'd probably get it done.. or close. But I'm not sure Gainey would move that much of the future.. with the way he works.

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That part made me lol too

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