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09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
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Lats needs to show more speed and more grit. He won't lose his spot to stiffs like Begin, Lapierre and Kostopoulos but he could lose it to Max Pacioretty. I have a feeling MaxPac won't spend the whole season in Hamilton.
I disagree . If ever Maxpac do the club , i think that he would take the spot of Bégin or Kostopoulos , because it would be a more easy role for him to slowly graduate .

Latendresse + Maxpac is going to be better than Bégin + Maxpac

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I disagree . If ever Maxpac do the club , i think that he would take the spot of Bégin or Kostopoulos , because it would be a more easy role for him to slowly graduate .

Latendresse + Maxpac is going to be better than Bégin + Maxpac
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We've been talking for so many years now about the lack of size and strengh we have up front, now we have 2 powerfoward in the system with 1st line potential, but unfortunately for an unknown reason we have to pick one beetween the 2? completely rediculous. Why don't we start by getting rid of all the dead wood on the club like Bégin and Dandenault 1st, after that if Pacioretty makes the club well Kostopoulos is next on line to go cause Lappierre and Chipchura aren't going anywhere and neither is Laraque

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We've been talking for so many years now about the lack of size and strengh we have up front, now we have 2 powerfoward in the system with 1st line potential, but unfortunately for an unknown reason we have to pick one beetween the 2? completely rediculous. Why don't we start by getting rid of all the dead wood on the club like Bégin and Dandenault 1st, after that if Pacioretty makes the club well Kostopoulos is next on line to go cause Lappierre and Chipchura aren't going anywhere and neither is Laraque
pimped and talked Laraque is not going anywhere you say

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09-17-2008, 07:29 PM
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I disagree . If ever Maxpac do the club , i think that he would take the spot of Bégin or Kostopoulos , because it would be a more easy role for him to slowly graduate .

Latendresse + Maxpac is going to be better than Bégin + Maxpac
I disagree...

Max Pac and Lats are better players... but not for a fourth line role. Defensive play Begin is better than a rookie or Lats will be.

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I disagree...

Max Pac and Lats are better players... but not for a fourth line role. Defensive play Begin is better than a rookie or Lats will be.
i desagree ...

the checking line is the 3 th one , but the Habs choose to go with 3 offensive line this comming season . Bégin + Laraque + Lapierre is an ENERGY line , not a checking line . Their ice time is going to be very limitated comparing to an average checking line . Their job will to consist to give a break to the top liners , and to shake the things with big hits . Not to shut down the best opposite line .

Maxpac , if he's ready , is going to be a nightmare for the other teams

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I disagree . If ever Maxpac do the club , i think that he would take the spot of Bégin or Kostopoulos , because it would be a more easy role for him to slowly graduate .

Latendresse + Maxpac is going to be better than Bégin + Maxpac
I re disagree. Begin and Kosto will spend a lot of time in the press box. That's no place for a rookie. I've watched a lot of hockey games...but it hasnt made me better.

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I re disagree. Begin and Kosto will spend a lot of time in the press box. That's no place for a rookie. I've watched a lot of hockey games...but it hasnt made me better.
That's why i said previously , that there are too much salary cap eaters by now with the Habs . There are too much players that will share the same seat ; Dandeneault , Kostopoulos , Lapierre , Chipchura ( i hope ) , Laraque , Bégin ... that makes 6 players for 3 spots .

Laraque is having a special role in that line . I would prefer the Habs to go with Lapierre & Chipchura & Maxpac over Dandeneault & Bégin . I agree that Kostopoulos is doing a great job , and that he could be a better option than Maxpac , at that point .

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That's why i said previously , that there are too much salary cap eaters by now with the Habs . There are too much players that will share the same seat ; Dandeneault , Kostopoulos , Lapierre , Chipchura ( i hope ) , Laraque , Bégin ... that makes 6 players for 3 spots .

Laraque is having a special role in that line . I would prefer the Habs to go with Lapierre & Chipchura & Maxpac over Dandeneault & Bégin . I agree that Kostopoulos is doing a great job , and that he could be a better option than Maxpac , at that point .
IF Macpac is used as you suggest, it would be because he did something great at camp and forced them to keep him, so all the givens have to change then. I think Dandenault is the only one clearly not in the plans. Begin and Kosto are useful but that can change, at least for 1 of them.

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i desagree ...

the checking line is the 3 th one , but the Habs choose to go with 3 offensive line this comming season . Bégin + Laraque + Lapierre is an ENERGY line , not a checking line . Their ice time is going to be very limitated comparing to an average checking line . Their job will to consist to give a break to the top liners , and to shake the things with big hits . Not to shut down the best opposite line .

Maxpac , if he's ready , is going to be a nightmare for the other teams
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I really don't expect MaxPac to play for the Habs on opening day even though I look forward to seeing him.

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That's why i said previously , that there are too much salary cap eaters by now with the Habs . There are too much players that will share the same seat ; Dandeneault , Kostopoulos , Lapierre , Chipchura ( i hope ) , Laraque , Bégin ... that makes 6 players for 3 spots .

Laraque is having a special role in that line . I would prefer the Habs to go with Lapierre & Chipchura & Maxpac over Dandeneault & Bégin . I agree that Kostopoulos is doing a great job , and that he could be a better option than Maxpac , at that point .
What I'm saying is I dont want one of our kids to spend half of the season watching the games from the pressbox. I'd much rather see him play 20-25 mins a game gaining confidence and learning new moves in Hamilton.

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What I'm saying is I dont want one of our kids to spend half of the season watching the games from the pressbox. I'd much rather see him play 20-25 mins a game gaining confidence and learning new moves in Hamilton.
If the Habs keep him , i suppose that he will play for at least 50-60 games , beacuse the are awared that the kid needs to play . That's a lot better than the 40 games he played last season at the U .

Another thing is that even if you don't play all the game , you are there for the training , you learn the system , you make contact with the players , the staff , so that you finally learn a lot of stuff even when you are not playing .

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If the Habs keep him , i suppose that he will play for at least 50-60 games , beacuse the are awared that the kid needs to play . That's a lot better than the 40 games he played last season at the U .

Another thing is that even if you don't play all the game , you are there for the training , you learn the system , you make contact with the players , the staff , so that you finally learn a lot of stuff even when you are not playing .
Nothing compares to actually playing and being called uppon to take things in hand.

The Habs were smart enough to do it with Andrei Kostitsyn. It was usueless having him up and playing him 3 shifts a game. He spent the required time in the minors and now he's matured, learned decision making skills and how to handle being the go to guy in the minors. The should have done the same with Lats.

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I disagree...

Max Pac and Lats are better players... but not for a fourth line role. Defensive play Begin is better than a rookie or Lats will be.
Can't agree more. To each their role and Begin is a defensive specialist and one of the games best agitator and hitter. Opponents keep their head up when Begin is on the ice.

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Can't agree more. To each their role and Begin is a defensive specialist and one of the games best agitator and hitter. Opponents keep their head up when Begin is on the ice.
Especialy when the period is over.

Seriously Bégin is a beast.

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pimped and talked Laraque is not going anywhere you say
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i desagree ...

the checking line is the 3 th one , but the Habs choose to go with 3 offensive line this comming season . Bégin + Laraque + Lapierre is an ENERGY line , not a checking line . Their ice time is going to be very limitated comparing to an average checking line . Their job will to consist to give a break to the top liners , and to shake the things with big hits . Not to shut down the best opposite line .

Maxpac , if he's ready , is going to be a nightmare for the other teams
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If the Habs keep him , i suppose that he will play for at least 50-60 games , beacuse the are awared that the kid needs to play . That's a lot better than the 40 games he played last season at the U .

Another thing is that even if you don't play all the game , you are there for the training , you learn the system , you make contact with the players , the staff , so that you finally learn a lot of stuff even when you are not playing .
If its to play 5-8 minutes a game for 60 games in the NHL... vs 20 minutes a game for the Bulldogs. I'd rather have him developping in Hamilton.

Also Begin, Kostopolous, can be used on the PK. I doubt MaxPac as a 20 year old rookie out of the NCAA will be a PKer.

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