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09-22-2008, 11:25 AM
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Worst players to win 2, 3, 4, or 5 cups?

I've frequently heard that Oleg Tverdovsky is the worst player to win two Stanley Cups. I thought this would be an interesting topic for discussion because it's harder to be part of a great team if you're a bad player, and because people's opinions of you change if you keep finding yourself on winning teams.

So, I ask you - is there anyone worse than Tverdovsky to win two cups? I am sure there is. He may be the worst to win two cups on two teams, though.

Taking it further, who is the worst player to win 3 cups? what about 4? what about 5?

I understand the players we name who have won 3-5 cups won't really be bad players - it would be like asking who's the worst 500-goal scorer. And the list of players gets smaller and smaller as you increase the number of cups you're talking about. But it would still be interesting to see some answers.

If anyone wants to venture a guess as to the worst player to win even one cup, be my guest. Chris Dingman has been mentioned before, but there are countless players who would qualify.

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09-22-2008, 11:50 AM
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I was hoping you would see this thread Pnep

I am sure you can provide a list since I do not have one, of players who have won said number of cups

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Mathieu Dandenault won three cups with the Wings.

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09-22-2008, 12:02 PM
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2 Cups

PlayerPOSHHOF Monitor PTS
Kevin "Ticker" Hodson G8,50
Jay Caufield RW9,10
Wendell "Dependable Wendell" Young G30,50
Connell "Connie" BrodenC53,50
Hector "The Wreaker" Marini RW91,50
John Macmillan RW94,50
Augustus "Gus" RiversRW114,50
Chris "Terrier" Terreri G124,50
Chris "Dinger" Dingman LW126,00
Johnny Mccreedy RW129,50


3 Cups

PlayerPOSHHOF Monitor PTS
Jaroslav Pouzar LW142,00
Jiri Hrdina C162,50
Mathieu "Dandy" Dandenault D217,65
Bill Nyrop D223,15
Joey "K.O." Kocur RW247,50
Garth Boesch D254,30
Roland "Rollie The Goalie" Melanson G255,50
Benedict "Benny" Woit D282,25
Aaron "The Battleship" Ward D287,50
Vic Lynn LW301,10


4 Cups

PlayerPOSHHOF Monitor PTS
Billy Carroll C248,50
Murray Wilson LW253,00
Anders "Andy" Kallur RW287,50
Rick "Charty" Chartraw D293,85
Kevin "Mac" Mcclelland RW297,00
Jeff BeukeboomD337,00
Bill "Bashin' Bill" Barilko D339,15
Gord "Gosh" Pettinger LW363,00
Gord Lane D363,25
Howie "Hurricane Howie" Meeker RW371,00


5 Cups

PlayerPOSHHOF Monitor PTS
Don Metz RW264,50
Pierre Bouchard D435,80
Randy "Doc" Gregg D469,60
Rejean "Peanut" Houle LW477,50
Mario "The Bionic Blueberry" Tremblay RW481,50
Bob Turner D495,10
John "Fergie" Ferguson LW529,00
Bob "Golden Boy" Goldham D565,10
Claude D. Larose RW587,50
Jim W. Roberts RW645,45


>5 Cups

PlayerPOSHHOF Monitor PTS
Larry "Morley" Hillman D503,55
Kevin "Vicious" Lowe D795,40
Dick "Tricky Dick" Duff LW871,00
Ralph "Ralphie" Backstrom C893,50
Serge "Le Senateur" Savard D915,80
Jean Guy Talbot D981,00
Guy "Pointu" Lapointe D1012,80
Jacques "Coco" Lemaire C1027,50
Glenn "Mork" Anderson RW1038,00
Tom "Bow Tie" Johnson D1046,75


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pnep, it looks like you have Kevin Lowe in there twice with two different HoF monitor point totals.

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pnep, it looks like you have Kevin Lowe in there twice with two different HoF monitor point totals.
fixed...

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Thanks pnep. Not surprised to see the recently deceased Nick Metz up there for players with 5 cups. He was a decent enough player but it's incredible how many cups he got his name on when playing just 148 NHL games. He was possibly the biggest reason the Leafs came back in 1942, though.

Wow, I forgot Dingman had a second cup... lucky guy.

Also, Ted Harris was fairly marginal, as far as players with 5 cups go. Did he just miss the list? How close was Tverdovsky to making the list of players with 2 cups?

I'm also assuming that you're including only post-1918 cups in this calculation and only counting NHL players... is that correct? Otherwise guys like Graham Drinkwater, Billy Gilmour, and Jack McDonald would have to be here.

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Also, Ted Harris was fairly marginal, as far as players with 5 cups go. Did he just miss the list? How close was Tverdovsky to making the list of players with 2 cups?
Edward "Ted" Harris -- D -- 689,00

Oleg "Tevvy" Tverdovsky -- D -- 258,95


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I'm also assuming that you're including only post-1918 cups in this calculation and only counting NHL players... is that correct? Otherwise guys like Graham Drinkwater, Billy Gilmour, and Jack McDonald would have to be here.
yes.
1917-18/2005-06 Cups

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09-22-2008, 12:48 PM
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Thanks again, pnep.

Just wanted to mention to the rest of my HOH bretheren: I'm not saying Drinkwater, McDonald, and Gilmour are bad - I respect them, their places in the hall, and their contributions to hockey... my ATD9 team had two of those guys! I'm just aware that pnep's HHOF monitor points only take NHL accomplishments into account and it's worth noting in case anyone else is wondering.

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Thanks pnep. Not surprised to see the recently deceased Nick Metz up there for players with 5 cups. He was a decent enough player but it's incredible how many cups he got his name on when playing just 148 NHL games. He was possibly the biggest reason the Leafs came back in 1942, though.
Actually, I believe it was Don Metz. He came in to replace Drillon and scored 7 points in 4 games.

Nick Metz played 518 games.

EDIT: I now realize you meant Don.

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Actually, I believe it was Don Metz. He came in to replace Drillon and scored 7 points in 4 games.

Nick Metz played 518 games.

EDIT: I now realize you meant Don.
Yes, I meant to say Don... Silly me. I should know this - I selected Don in AAA9.

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Out of idle curiosity how many monitor points does 4 time winner Darren McCarty have?

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...can't be too much more than Gord Lane and Howie Meeker.

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Where do all the nicknames come from? Can't say I've ever heard anyone refer to Aaron Ward as "The Battleship", etc.

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pnep explained once that he got them on the internet. Also, I've noticed that a lot of them are present on sihrhockey.org in their massive hockey database.

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Almost everyone on the 5+ Cups is a legit Hall of Famer.

I've always felt Kirk Maltby was lousy. 4 Cups for him now

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Out of idle curiosity how many monitor points does 4 time winner Darren McCarty have?
Darren "D-Mac" Mccarty -- RW -- ~450

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Do those monitor points only include NHL? I reckon that Pouzar and Hrdina were multiple times participating World Championships for Czechoslovakia, and both also participated Canada Cup once. Were not able to leave home until their 30s.

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Do those monitor points only include NHL?
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What about D Mac and Kirk Maltby?

Edit: didn't read the whole thread.

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