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09-14-2008, 06:14 PM
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What are you basing this on? I realize this is a message board and logic can be suspended during typing, but why would his desire be less? Are his priorities different now?
His desire would be less because:

A: He wants to go to Russia.

B: He wants to earn more money.

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09-14-2008, 10:38 PM
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To Atlanta:
Radulov
de Vries
1st in 09
3rd in 09

To Nashville:
Ilya Kovalchuk
Boris Valabik
DONE

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09-15-2008, 06:27 PM
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With all the draft picks that we have its too bad we didn't trade for Lang. He has been a sniper against the Preds for a few years and could have been a great player to go along side of our top 2 lines.
Lang has size and mad skills but you don't want him anyway--he's lazy as hell.

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09-17-2008, 05:44 PM
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echlfreak = David Poile ?

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09-17-2008, 06:06 PM
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A Radulov trade seems like a 50/50 proposition to me whenever he does decide to come back. I'm on the fence....if he truly does desire to come back and realizes his mistake/fits back in with the team, I would rather hang on to him UNLESS we receive close to equal value in a trade.

And lets face it - equal value before this fiasco would have been top prospect + first round pick + high upside roster player....or something of that nature. Where Radulov's value stands now, I have no idea.

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First, why is there no chance the Preds would keep him?

Some of those proposals are ridiculous, but I agree would take a LOT for a team to acquire him (regardless of how low his value is right now).

As an Oilers fan, I'd offer:

Rob Schremp, Marc Pouliot, Steve Staios, 2nd rounder in '09 and 1st rounder in '10

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Alex Radulov and Greg Zanon

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09-17-2008, 07:50 PM
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First, why is there no chance the Preds would keep him?

Some of those proposals are ridiculous, but I agree would take a LOT for a team to acquire him (regardless of how low his value is right now).

As an Oilers fan, I'd offer:

Rob Schremp, Marc Pouliot, Steve Staios, 2nd rounder in '09 and 1st rounder in '10

for

Alex Radulov and Greg Zanon
Cogliano, Staios, 2nd in '09 for Radulov & Zanon ?

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Cogliano, Staios, 2nd in '09 for Radulov & Zanon ?
Personally, I'd do it, but I don't think Lowe/Tambellini would. They're really high on Cogliano and Gagner and I can't see them trading either one right now.

The players I listed above with the possible additions of Penner, Nilsson and Brule are the only ones I'd could see the Oilers brass considering expendable right now.

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09-17-2008, 08:02 PM
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First, why is there no chance the Preds would keep him?

Some of those proposals are ridiculous, but I agree would take a LOT for a team to acquire him (regardless of how low his value is right now).

As an Oilers fan, I'd offer:

Rob Schremp, Marc Pouliot, Steve Staios, 2nd rounder in '09 and 1st rounder in '10

for

Alex Radulov and Greg Zanon
I would think this would be one of the better offers ventured forth for Radulov at this point. NOTE: If Radulov did return and played through the first half of the season, I think his value could regain its former level, but I also think that if he plays through half the season on the Preds, he will be signing an extension by season's end.....

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09-17-2008, 08:59 PM
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Cogliano, Staios, 2nd in '09 for Radulov & Zanon ?
I'd rather have Penner, to be honest. He's certainly expensive, but he replaces most, if not all of Radulov's production. It sends Pihlström back to the minors but a spot will open up for him after next season.

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09-18-2008, 11:09 AM
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Question(s): If the leagues go to arbitration at some point after the start of the season and the NHL wins and Rads is ordered to return (presumably for the current year, say, 25 games into the season), how is his contract handled? Does he then only owe the Preds the remainder of the season at a pro rata salary or do the suspension games carry over to the following year? I assume the former, in which case the Preds get screwed out of part of the value of the year. I guess the parties could stipulate that whatever ruling was made would not kick in until the following season, which might make sense for everyone.

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09-19-2008, 12:42 AM
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the problem is that rads has burned alot of bridges-not only with the preds but with the nhl, and has brought to light some ugly things in the ability of the khl and nhl to co-operate.

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09-21-2008, 02:32 AM
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Even if radulov comes back who knows when he will bolt off to Russia again. How about a 3rd round pick?

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09-21-2008, 09:23 AM
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Even if radulov comes back who knows when he will bolt off to Russia again. How about a 3rd round pick?
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09-21-2008, 05:05 PM
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Ok, Blake for Radulov...done deal. (you can also have Van Ryn for free if you want)

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09-21-2008, 06:03 PM
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Personally, I'd do it, but I don't think Lowe/Tambellini would. They're really high on Cogliano and Gagner and I can't see them trading either one right now.

The players I listed above with the possible additions of Penner, Nilsson and Brule are the only ones I'd could see the Oilers brass considering expendable right now.
I'd do it if he signed a contract of sufficient length (3 years minimum). All of this assuming of course that the KHL contract that he recently signed becomes a non-issue.

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09-22-2008, 10:44 AM
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I'd do it if he signed a contract of sufficient length (3 years minimum). All of this assuming of course that the KHL contract that he recently signed becomes a non-issue.
sure, have him sign 5 contracts for all we care, he isnt going to honor them.

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09-23-2008, 02:34 PM
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No recent news on the arbitration?

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09-23-2008, 07:21 PM
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No recent news on the arbitration?
Not until they can agree on a location to hold it... KHL offered to hold it Russia (big surprise). NHL quickly declined. NHL wants it in Switzerland, no word from KHL yet

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09-23-2008, 11:53 PM
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Not until they can agree on a location to hold it... KHL offered to hold it Russia (big surprise). NHL quickly declined. NHL wants it in Switzerland, no word from KHL yet
That's what I thought. Hopefully this gets resolved quickly one way or the other for you Preds fans.

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09-27-2008, 10:55 AM
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NHL accuses IIHF of working together with KHL

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/darren_dreger/?id=250818

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09-27-2008, 12:22 PM
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NHL accuses IIHF of working together with KHL

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/darren_dreger/?id=250818
Two words:

Money talks.

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09-27-2008, 12:38 PM
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NHL accuses IIHF of working together with KHL

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/darren_dreger/?id=250818
Considering the Russian Hockey Federation is a member of the IIHF and the NHL is not... shouldn't they be?

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09-28-2008, 02:21 AM
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Two words:

Money talks.
This has nothing to do with money and everything to do with the NHL crying like a bunch of babies because it's getting a taste of its own medicine.

In the absence of a transfer agreement, the NHL gets away with signing players under contract because it's not under IIHF jurisdiction. The NHL is a seperate entity from Hockey Canada and USA Hockey; hence it's not under the umbrella of the IIHF....meaning there's no accountability.
Unlike the RSL, the KHL was set up using this exact same model; i.e. it's now a seperate entity from the Russian Hockey Federation meaning it's no longer under the authority of the IIHF.
Despite the complaints from NHL, this is why Radulov CAN compete in international competitions and Ufa ISN'T disqualified from the Champions League.

Medvedev is playing Daly like a fiddle and it appears all Daly has left is to accuse the IIHF and KHL of working together.


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With Radulov wanting to come back to the NHL, there is no chance that the Predators should keep him so what are some possible trade options keeping in mind that he would be a $5M player in years to come?

To Pittsburgh for:

Staal
Filewich

or Sykora/Filewich


To Edmonton for:

Hemsky

To Tampa for:

Vrbata
Jokinen


To NJ for:

Gionta


To Colorado for:

Wolski
Svatos

To Buffalo for:

Pominville
McArthur


To Atlanta for:

Kovalchuk

add a 1st Round Pick to this trade


To LA for:

Kopitar

or O'Sullivan and prospect


or Frolov


Montreal for:

Higgins
or
Kostitsyn


SJ for:

Cheechoo or Michalek


hahahha

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