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09-24-2008, 11:40 AM
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It has nothing to do with the system. Being responsible defensively doesn't stifle offense. If you do it right, it creates offense in the form of counterattacks. From there it's the job of the players to cash in on those scoring opportunities.

Look at detroit. Do you think they sacrifice defense for offense? Renney's system is basically the same as what detroit has done for years. It works. The key is getting the players to execute it. And I think moreso this year than any other, they have those players.
Detroit's defense puts alot more pressure on other teams than we do. They forecheck tighter, and really create turnovers. We sit back I think more, and just try to block shooting lanes in our own zone, especially last year. We really don't take many risks defensively. I think if we did we would create more opportunities. Detroit takes alot more risks for the big hit, or to pick off a pass and go the other way. Granted haven't seen enough of what we have been doing yet this year to make that assessment yet.

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09-24-2008, 11:53 AM
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I'm sure the Caps and Pengs would be more than happy to send Crosby and A.O our way.

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09-24-2008, 11:56 AM
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Sadly enough, I wish the Rangers would have signed Briere last year. I just though he'd fit well on this team.

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09-24-2008, 12:06 PM
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Sadly enough, I wish the Rangers would have signed Briere last year. I just though he'd fit well on this team.
completely agreed.

I wanted Briere, then Gomez and wanted no part of Drury b/c I thought he was overrated and worth nowhere near the money he would get.

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Off topic, but I call BS on that article. First of all, Jagr doesn't have a brother. Second, him telling some guy he meets in a casino that he wants to and/or will return to the NHL runs contrary to every thing he's said publicly since he signed with Omsk.

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09-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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Off topic, but I call BS on that article. First of all, Jagr doesn't have a brother. Second, him telling some guy he meets in a casino that he wants to and/or will return to the NHL runs contrary to every thing he's said publicly since he signed with Omsk.
I'd probably agree with you. If you look in the comments, he says he assumed it was Jagr's brother, but it could have been his body guard.

I think the guy is making it up. I HIGHLY doubt it's true, but funny nonetheless.

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OK, first it's 3 pre-season games and we "lack creativity" ???

2nd: Do you only consider "dipsey-doodle" type play creative???

3rd: Here's what to llook for this year: Pass, pass, shot! pass, pass shot! and yeah, I'm excited about that.

We are going to have a completely different look this year offensively and we are going to be a lot more fun to watch.

Will we win more games and go further? Remains to be seen, but I am excited, because I feel like we ditched some baggage that had been holding us back.

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Our elite player is in the net. My main gripe isn't with the inability to bring in elite players, it is the fact that we keep giving non-elite players, elite money.

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09-24-2008, 12:36 PM
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Our elite player is in the net. My main gripe isn't with the inability to bring in elite players, it is the fact that we keep giving non-elite players, elite money.
very very well said.

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09-24-2008, 12:44 PM
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Detroit's defense puts alot more pressure on other teams than we do. They forecheck tighter, and really create turnovers. We sit back I think more, and just try to block shooting lanes in our own zone, especially last year. We really don't take many risks defensively. I think if we did we would create more opportunities. Detroit takes alot more risks for the big hit, or to pick off a pass and go the other way. Granted haven't seen enough of what we have been doing yet this year to make that assessment yet.
but the reason they can play that way, taking so many chances is because of their skating ability....they have the ability to cancel out their mistakes with their speed and skill.....not many teams could get away with that and i know last years rangers wouldnt have

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09-24-2008, 12:46 PM
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I really don't think the offense will be a problem this season at all. And while there may not be one bonafied superstar on the roster, there are numerous guys I feel have 20 goal potential. Zherdev, Naslund, Drury, Dawes, and Dubinsky I feel can all contribute offensively, and what I like about it is that it spreads the talent out somewhat across the different lines. IN the end I don't think the team is really going to have much trouble offensively.

But...What I do see, and I hate to beat a dead horse here...but again the club lacks physicality on the back end. I guess it's clear at this point that management feels this is not an area they need to address, but I definately feel different. Dan Girardi is our most physical of all the defenseman. In two pre-season games the guy delivered 11 hits...which i very solid, but let's face it. Dan Girardi is not a physical presence when on the ice.

In the first game against the Sens, Nick Foligno unimpeeded crashed right into the Rangers netminder....just don't remember which one it was. But nobody seemed to take notice of it. Not one defender even looked at the guy the wrong way.

Last night afdter making a save I believe it was Wiikman holding the puck, and getting jabbed at repeatedly by Tampa players. The end result was Gomez nonc-chalantely grabing the Tampa players arm. Not for nothing, but you got a guy jabbing at a loose puck while your goaltender is down you gotta knock him on his arse. Similar to what happened when Orr knocked Stamkos into the goalie last night. All the Tampa players took offense to it. I just hanev't seen that thus far from the Rangers in the pre-season, and I fear that is going to carryover into the regular season...and god forbit it happens in the post season!

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09-24-2008, 12:48 PM
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but the reason they can play that way, taking so many chances is because of their skating ability....they have the ability to cancel out their mistakes with their speed and skill.....not many teams could get away with that and i know last years rangers wouldnt have
very true, I was just pointing out that the system you play will affect the amount of goals, and chances created. We had to play a very conservative style last year due to the structure of our team. therefore there were less goals.

I still think that we played too conservative last year, and could have taken some more chances to help create offense.

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09-24-2008, 01:09 PM
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very true, I was just pointing out that the system you play will affect the amount of goals, and chances created. We had to play a very conservative style last year due to the structure of our team. therefore there were less goals.

I still think that we played too conservative last year, and could have taken some more chances to help create offense.
i would agree with that last statement

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09-24-2008, 02:52 PM
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I could see Del Zotto providing a kind of spark to this offense the way he's been skating, but I don't see him even being given his 10 games before heading back to the CHL. I'd like to see him up here for a few regular season games at the beginning but I have a feeling we play it vanilla and send him back once the pre-season's done. With a little more time to get comfortable and do a little bit of learning, however, I really think he's got some spark and creativity to help from the back end.

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