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09-26-2008, 12:05 PM
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Jagr Calling Renney to Check on Dubi and the Team?

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A very interesting admission from Tom Renney that Jaromir Jagr has called a number of times to ask how the team is doing, particularly Brandon Dubinsky. “We’ll both be climbing over each other for credit if this kid ends up as a Hall of Famer,” Renney said. “I guess Jags should get it.”
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When I mentioned to Renney the story that Jagr was instrumental in getting Calgary assistant Wayne Fleming to come to Omsk to be the head coach, Renney smiled sheepishly.
“I plead the fifth,” the coach said.
Interesting stuff. Nice to see Jags still caring about his old team.

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09-26-2008, 12:13 PM
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Good stuff, Forechecker...

Perhaps Jagr wasn't as selfish as so many make him out to be and really did care about the team.

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09-26-2008, 12:14 PM
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Heh, thats cool.

Guess he really likes Dubinsky and see's a huge amount of potential in him (we already knew Jagr was high on Dubi though).

Jagr will be back with us come playoff time


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09-26-2008, 12:17 PM
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Perhaps Jagr wasn't as selfish as so many make him out to be and really did care about the team.
People who actually took the time to follow the team closely and watch his interviews know this to be the case...

Stinks he's not here because it feels so much like there is unfinished business.

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I jagr is going to be taking cherry under his wing the same way before sending him to broadway.....awesome....

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I bet Jagr misses the big apple...I sure do!

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09-26-2008, 12:34 PM
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Good job Jags

Keep proving the people wrong who call you selfish.

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Sure would be nice if we could somehow get Jags back for the playoffs.

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09-26-2008, 12:54 PM
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I bet Jagr misses the big apple...I sure do!
After a few weeks of trying to go for dinner in Omsk, who wouldn't?

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I miss Jagr

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Nice to hear this about Jagr...good to know he cares about the team still and wants some involvement.

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09-26-2008, 01:34 PM
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umm Glen and Renney are Geniouses.

Omsk could always loan Jagr to us if needed. But with everything clicking, Jagr is just making sure Dubi gets his credit and doesn't get buried on the 3rd line.

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umm Glen and Renney are Geniouses.

Omsk could always loan Jagr to us if needed. But with everything clicking, Jagr is just making sure Dubi gets his credit and doesn't get buried on the 3rd line.
I still find this whole NYR/OMSK relationship to be a bit .......strange.

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Omsk could always loan Jagr to us if needed.
Is that true?

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09-26-2008, 01:49 PM
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Omsk could always loan Jagr to us if needed.
No, they couldn't.

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09-26-2008, 01:51 PM
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Why not...there is no agreement except what both teams agree to.

The only agreement the KHL and the NHL have is that if a player is under contract with one league, then that league can say they won't try to steal that player who is under contract.

There is nothing out there saying if KHL Owner A LETS his player play in the NHL that the NHL can say no to it.

We can deal with the KHL for a Transfer to the NHL and back after that player is not needed anymore, kinda like calling up a player from the AHL going into the playoffs.

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09-26-2008, 02:06 PM
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Why not...there is no agreement except what both teams agree to.

The only agreement the KHL and the NHL have is that if a player is under contract with one league, then that league can say they won't try to steal that player who is under contract.

There is nothing out there saying if KHL Owner A LETS his player play in the NHL that the NHL can say no to it.

We can deal with the KHL for a Transfer to the NHL and back after that player is not needed anymore, kinda like calling up a player from the AHL going into the playoffs.
By the time Jagr finishes his season in Omsk the trade deadline will have past. If he were to come back then, not only would he have to clear waivers but he would be ineligible to play in the NHL playoffs. See: Strudwick, Jason; 2007 edition.

And if you're thinking Omsk would loan their leading scorer, biggest draw, and most prized possession to the Rangers before their season is over, after the lengths they went to to get him there, you're mad.

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When is the last game of the season for OMSK? I know thier season starts early so i'm sure they finish early. What I am asking is if OMSK is done for the year can the Rangers sign him for the playoffs? I know nothing about these rules but Sather is just too sly of a dog,

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09-26-2008, 02:10 PM
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That is a very kind and courteous move by Jags, great to see he is following up on the team while he is in Russia!


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By the time Jagr finishes his season in Omsk the trade deadline will have past. If he were to come back then, not only would he have to clear waivers but he would be ineligible to play in the NHL playoffs. See: Strudwick, Jason; 2007 edition.

And if you're thinking Omsk would loan their leading scorer, biggest draw, and most prized possession to the Rangers before their season is over, after the lengths they went to to get him there, you're mad.
I think the Deadline for European players to come over without any waiver stuff is Jan. 1st, right? Omsk sounds like its not doing that well this year and by then they'd probably know if they were going to make the playoffs or not. If I'm Omsk and I'm not making the playoffs, I'd jump at the chance to send Jags over if it meant my team getting some monetary compensation which can be used to improve the team next season. That being said its still far fetched, although not as far fetched as I used to think just because Jags seems like hes home sick and there is the Renney-Fleming connection as well.

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I think the Deadline for European players to come over without any waiver stuff is Jan. 1st, right? Omsk sounds like its not doing that well this year and by then they'd probably know if they were going to make the playoffs or not. If I'm Omsk and I'm not making the playoffs, I'd jump at the chance to send Jags over if it meant my team getting some monetary compensation which can be used to improve the team next season. That being said its still far fetched, although not as far fetched as I used to think just because Jags seems like hes home sick and there is the Renney-Fleming connection as well.
Homesick because he's called his former coach a couple times and asked about a player he helped mentor? Jagr's starting to put up points, his team is winning, and he's getting lavished with cheers from the fans in every arena he sets foot in. When he scores, even opposing teams fans cheer. I think everyone underestimates just how big of a deal Jagr going to Russia is in Russia. And it was that kind of affection from fans that he cited as a major factor in returning in the first place.

Omsk have won five in a row and are now in second place in the league. They were amongst the top-ranked teams going into the season and will be very much in the hunt for a playoff berth by January. They got off to a slow start (2-4), replaced a coach the players didn't like, and have won every game since. And Fleming hasn't even arrived yet.

As for getting monetary compensation from the Rangers in exchange for loaning them Jagr, the NHL does not and will not allow it. Not to mention that the guy with the money behind the team in Omsk is worth a lot more than Jimmy Dolan.

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Jagr thinks very highly of Dubi as reflected from his comments last year.

When Dubi's holding the Cup over his head sometime down the line, I'll be thinking of Jags.

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Wait, are people actually suggesting that somehow Jagr might end up a late-season addition to the Rangers, and further, that Omsk would condone this, let alone facilitate it?


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Homesick because he's called his former coach a couple times and asked about a player he helped mentor? Jagr's starting to put up points, his team is winning, and he's getting lavished with cheers from the fans in every arena he sets foot in. When he scores, even opposing teams fans cheer. I think everyone underestimates just how big of a deal Jagr going to Russia is in Russia. And it was that kind of affection from fans that he cited as a major factor in returning in the first place.

Omsk have won five in a row and are now in second place in the league. They were amongst the top-ranked teams going into the season and will be very much in the hunt for a playoff berth by January. They got off to a slow start (2-4), replaced a coach the players didn't like, and have won every game since. And Fleming hasn't even arrived yet.

As for getting monetary compensation from the Rangers in exchange for loaning them Jagr, the NHL does not and will not allow it. Not to mention that the guy with the money behind the team in Omsk is worth a lot more than Jimmy Dolan.
Like I said it was far fetched

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