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09-20-2008, 01:06 PM
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thoughts from camp

got a chance to go to the morning session this morning, won't get to go to the afternoon one. felt good to smell the ice. some brief observations;

..legwand looked sharp, especially shooting the puck
..dumont looked a step slow, a little out of shape maybe
..hornqvist looked nervous, like he was pressing, but has a pretty good shot
..weber looked bigger. hate they still list him at 213, he's obviously not. weights haven't been updated.
..suter, weber, zanon and klein all skated well. this team is going to have to win games with these defensemen
..gratton is smaller than the stats say. he was actually about the same height as hornqvist with them standing side by side
..jones looked much smaller than i expected and showed very little today.
..thought peverley was hurt and was going to miss the first week? he practiced.
..ellis looked pretty sharp.
..surprise, this is going to be an offensively challenged bunch.

you walk away from watching these guys and you cann't help but think they'll be a team most will identify with. a team of relative nobodies, that will try to overachieve. a team that should be a scrappy, hustling bunch of youngsters. i saw nothing that convinces me we have the raw talent to be better than about an 85 point team, but you hope that scrappiness and desire combine with what should be an excellent defensive 6, and that that combined with solid goaltending (fingers crossed) and more defensive oriented forward play will mean this team can be in virtually every game all year with a chance to win every night.

at least, that's the hope.

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09-20-2008, 01:17 PM
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you walk away from watching these guys and you cann't help but think they'll be a team most will identify with. a team of relative nobodies, that will try to overachieve. a team that should be a scrappy, hustling bunch of youngsters. i saw nothing that convinces me we have the raw talent to be better than about an 85 point team, but you hope that scrappiness and desire combine with what should be an excellent defensive 6, and that that combined with solid goaltending (fingers crossed) and more defensive oriented forward play will mean this team can be in virtually every game all year with a chance to win every night.

at least, that's the hope.
In other words, we're screwed but at least the games will be exciting.

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In other words, we're screwed but at least the games will be exciting.
probably.

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This team needs the defense to continue to improve (last year Suter stepped his game up but Weber regressed due to injury), the pp is going to need to be in the top 15, and we are going to need one of Jones/Hornqvist to be an adequate scoring forward this year (assuming Radulov remains in Russia) - if these three things happen, I think we can sneak in.

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I thought the following bubble/young players were very solid today: Hornqvist, Pihlstrom, Sulzer, Franson, Spaling. I wasn't too impressed with Maki, Laakso, and MacIntyre. Jones looked terrible, as almost all his passes were off and he couldn't any passes.

Gratton really laid one on Hornqvist during the drills; Hornqvist was thrown into the boards at an awkward angle, luckily he looked ok.

Oh and Rinne had a very solid day today.

It was great to see the team again.

Tootoo's dad was in the stands today too.


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any word on how Blum looked?

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I thought the following bubble/young players were very solid today: Hornqvist, Pihlstrom, Sulzer, Franson, Spaling. I wasn't too impressed with Maki, Laakso, and MacIntyre. Jones looked terrible, as almost all his passes were off and he couldn't any passes.
Maki shouldn't impress you, he's a fringe AHLer.

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any word on how Blum looked?
He was ok, didn't stand out too much imo.

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..legwand looked sharp, especially shooting the puck
..dumont looked a step slow, a little out of shape maybe
..hornqvist looked nervous, like he was pressing, but has a pretty good shot
..weber looked bigger. hate they still list him at 213, he's obviously not. weights haven't been updated.
Legwand: good to hear, I really hope he gets back to the 06-07 form

Dumont: a few days ago in the paper he said he was putting it upon himself to try to score 30 goals this year, so that's a little disappointing to hear.

Hornqvist: I'm so excited to see him in camp and in games.

Weber: on the Preds site, in the scrolling headlines, his picture was on there during the golf tourny and he looked bigger in that picture so to see you say he looks bigger on the ice is good to know.


I didn't get to the camp (mostly because Pitt was actually on TV) so I'm really excited for Monday, even if it is only rookies!

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Any more opinions about Laakso? I was wondering how he has been doing. Perhaps he has a chance to play a few practice games before being sent to Milwaukee?

Trotz seems to like him, according to this quote:

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I was really happy with that group. There wasn’t much separation so I was really happy with that. I was impressed with some of the young guys especially on defense. Laakso and Sulzer I was really impressed with and they are competing for that next level, those depth levels. I was really happy with that whole group overall. It was really a good first day.

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I'm not surprised. Laakso and Sulzer could start in the NHL. For the Predators, they are no. 8 and no. 9. They really really have to impress to crack the roster, and judging by past personnel moves, I doubt even then they will be on the roster.

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Some observations of the "closed" scrimmage on Sunday [due to Centenneal being closed to the public]:

Trotz:
http://predators.nhl.tv/team/console...1012&catid=252

Brandon Felder:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?p...&blogger_id=94

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besides hornqvist, any other big suprises rising?

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I only saw the second group on Saturday, but I was impressed by Laakso. he was a lot bigger than I remembered. Blum seemed VERY nervous and was messing up a lot as a result. None of the tryouts really did much for me; Brandon Buck was probably the best of all of them. Rinne was outstanding, even in drills that were designed to be to his disadvantage. MacEntyre stunk, rebound machine. Didn't see enough of Pickard to judge. Nichol and Fiddler seemed like they were dogging it a little, maybe taking their spots for granted. Arnott looked pretty good, as did Hamhuis. Tootoo's shot is no more accurate than it ever was, unfortunately.

No one else really stood out, good or bad.

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besides hornqvist, any other big suprises rising?
Spaling

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How did Sulzer play?

What kind of d-man is he?

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Any chance Pihlstrom and Hornqvist make the team?

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they both had a goal last night, and Pihlstrom I think played well, so there is a chance

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Any chance Pihlstrom and Hornqvist make the team?
Hornqvist is pretty much a lock to make the team.

Pihlstrom on the other hand might be stuck in a numbers and who can go down on waivers game.

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Pihlstrom has shown me far more than Ryan Jones. It'd be a shame if he missed our roster because of his waiver situation, because he's looked a lot better than some "locks."

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Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced today that the club has reassigned forwards Mike Santorelli and Andreas Thuresson, as well as defenseman Cody Franson to Milwaukee of the American Hockey League.
Source: http://predators.nhl.com/team/app/?s...ticleid=383837

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Any chance Pihlstrom and Hornqvist make the team?
With Mike Santorelli going back to Milwaukee, it's pretty much a given that both will be on the opening night roster, and probably in the lineup against St. Louis on 10/10.

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To be quite honest, with the way Mike Santorelli has played thus far in training camp and exhibitions, he is not going to finish the season in Milwaukee...

Thuresson has improved greatly, but still needs to work on refining his game. His energy level and aggressiveness are there, but he is a little too "all over the place" and needs to continue to adjust to the professional ranks...what is he...20?

Franson struggled early in camp and was said to have improved over the past few days (all of which I was in Charlotte!!! - can't wait to get back down to the rink), but inconsistency like that will get you reassigned to the minors as long as you are waiver eligible and there is not a spot open for you on the big club. Probably in line for a callup if necessary, but will be battling Sulzer all the way for that first callup position.

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Thuresson has improved greatly, but still needs to work on refining his game. His energy level and aggressiveness are there, but he is a little too "all over the place" and needs to continue to adjust to the professional ranks...what is he...20?
In terms of NHL potential and everything; does this kid have a shot at making it? What kind of game does he player and everything? Just curious as i have never heard of him until now. Thanks

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Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced today that the club has reassigned forwards Ryan Maki and Ian McKenzie, defenseman Robert Dietrich and goaltender Mark Dekanich to Milwaukee of the American Hockey League. Additionally, forward Stephen Werner and defensemen Scott Ford and Mark Matheson were released from professional tryouts, but will go to Milwaukee on AHL contracts.
And who is left:

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Forwards (20): Jason Arnott, Radek Bonk, J.P. Dumont, Martin Erat, Vernon Fiddler, Triston Grant, Josh Gratton, Patric Hornqvist, Ryan Jones, David Legwand, Scott Nichol, Cal O’Reilly, Jed Ortmeyer, Rich Peverley, Antti Pihlstrom, Michael Ryan, Jerred Smithson, Steve Sullivan, Jordin Tootoo and Joel Ward.
Defensemen (8): Greg de Vries, Dan Hamhuis, Kevin Klein, Ville Koistinen, Alexander Sulzer, Ryan Suter, Shea Weber and Greg Zanon.
Goaltenders (3): Dan Ellis, Drew MacIntyre and Pekka Rinne.
Source: http://predators.nhl.com/team/app/?s...ticleid=383946

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