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08-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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I went with an American buddy of mine that is a Bengals fan. Some of my friends like the Pats, Packers, Cowboys, Giants and Pukesburgh. I personally like the Cowboys. You can't ask people to really like the Bills just becasue of the proximity.
No, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that people should like them because they're close, I personally don't follow the Bills, I'm just saying that if it's mainly NFL fans going, the novelty may wear off, just like the Winter "Classic" will soon wear off.

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anyone who pays the kind of money there asking to see exhibition games and the worst teams in the league during the regular season have some serious issues. Buffalo was nice enough to give us the games that have low interest in Buffalo and now were expected to pay 10x the price to see them. This is simply an insult to all of us.

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08-17-2008, 02:03 PM
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Yes lets stay with the Argos who drew less than 31,000 last night for a league game at ticket prices equal to the cost of a beer at a real football game. !!! :

Toronto is the 5th largest market in North America and will have an NFL team one day.
I wouldn't have a problem with Toronto getting an NFL team in 25 or 30 years or so.. just not anytime in the near future.

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Can Rogers Centre even be a good football venue? Sight wise.

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Can Rogers Centre even be a good football venue? Sight wise.
Rogers Center wouldn't work for NFL football.

They would need a new stadium..that if it happens better bet funded by Ted Rogers 100%

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08-17-2008, 04:06 PM
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The problem is, the current Bills are boring as ****.

Get a QB in there who can do more than throw a 7 foot pass into the flats and maybe I'll be intrigued.

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08-19-2008, 09:32 PM
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More NFL fans then Bills fans..

Go Eagles!!

Bills are a close 2nd.

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09-25-2008, 06:31 PM
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Anybody think the overall sentiments towards this idea change a bit now that there's somewhat of a buzz surrounding the Bills?

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The problem is, the current Bills are boring as ****.

Get a QB in there who can do more than throw a 7 foot pass into the flats and maybe I'll be intrigued.
Has the opinion changed at all?

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09-25-2008, 07:10 PM
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3-0. wow.

It's just hard I guess to cheer for a team that really isn't yours. They're still buffalo. Now there isn't a hateful relationship between Buffalo and Toronto. I think Buffalonians look up to Toronto in awe, compared to what Buffalo is, and Toronto sees it as a close little neighbour that we have a healthy rivalry with the leafs and Sabres. I've never hated Buffalo, never hated the Sabres either.

If the process eventually comes to be a full-time Toronto franchise, well, then I think an NFL team will be embraced.

We'll see I guess what happens the next game.

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3-0. wow.

It's just hard I guess to cheer for a team that really isn't yours. They're still buffalo. Now there isn't a hateful relationship between Buffalo and Toronto. I think Buffalonians look up to Toronto in awe, compared to what Buffalo is, and Toronto sees it as a close little neighbour that we have a healthy rivalry with the leafs and Sabres. I've never hated Buffalo, never hated the Sabres either.

If the process eventually comes to be a full-time Toronto franchise, well, then I think an NFL team will be embraced.

We'll see I guess what happens the next game.
What on earth are you talking about with that?

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09-25-2008, 08:01 PM
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Toronto and Buffalo have a very special relationship. We share arts and sports with each other.

There are many who view the Bills as Toronto's adopted NFL team. Just like there are many in Buffalo who have adopted the Blue Jays as a home team. We in Toronto go to watch
musicians who can't cross the border because of criminal records and people in Buffalo come to Toronto to see plays like The Phantom (when it was out).

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09-26-2008, 07:58 AM
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The problem is, the current Bills are boring as ****.

Get a QB in there who can do more than throw a 7 foot pass into the flats and maybe I'll be intrigued.
You clearly haven't watched one Bills game this year, Too bad, they're very good and IMO exciting to watch.

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3-0. wow.

It's just hard I guess to cheer for a team that really isn't yours. They're still buffalo. Now there isn't a hateful relationship between Buffalo and Toronto. I think Buffalonians look up to Toronto in awe, compared to what Buffalo is, and Toronto sees it as a close little neighbour that we have a healthy rivalry with the leafs and Sabres. I've never hated Buffalo, never hated the Sabres either.

If the process eventually comes to be a full-time Toronto franchise, well, then I think an NFL team will be embraced.

We'll see I guess what happens the next game.
You should post that on the Sabres board and see what comments come from that. I can't speak for people in Buffallo, but the ones I have met are very passionate about their sports teams, especially the Bills.

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anyone who pays the kind of money there asking to see exhibition games and the worst teams in the league during the regular season have some serious issues. Buffalo was nice enough to give us the games that have low interest in Buffalo and now were expected to pay 10x the price to see them. This is simply an insult to all of us.
Bills-Dolphins--in December--is a low interest game? I know the Dolphins suck, but they are our #1 rival historically and in our division, and if i was a Season ticket holder I'd be pissed that the Dolphins game was the one that got moved. In Buffalo, it may not be the most-awaited game of the year right now, but people will care about it a lot more than a game against the Seahawks or Raiders.

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You should post that on the Sabres board and see what comments come from that. I can't speak for people in Buffallo, but the ones I have met are very passionate about their sports teams, especially the Bills.
This is putting sports aside by what I mean, I'm talking about cities as a whole, culture wise, economy wise. Toronto and Buffalo are quite different in their industries and how they were formed and evolved.

I should have mentioned that I didn't mean sports teams period. Hope that makes sense.

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09-28-2008, 01:17 AM
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The problem is, the current Bills are boring as ****.

Get a QB in there who can do more than throw a 7 foot pass into the flats and maybe I'll be intrigued.
Yeah, I think they already fixed that problem. Plus they have one of the fastest RB in the league.
I don't think Torontonians are as much in love with the Bills are as ppl from St Catharines and Niagara region.

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09-28-2008, 01:25 AM
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I'm a Chargers/Giants fan. I don't like the Bills, but not because of the hockey rivalry. I don't really know why I don't like them, I just don't.

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As someone who has no interest in the NFL, I would probably watch a Toronto NFL team.

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Yeah, I think they already fixed that problem. Plus they have one of the fastest RB in the league.
I don't think Torontonians are as much in love with the Bills are as ppl from St Catharines and Niagara region.
I think you'd be surprised. The Bills are far and away the closest NFL team to Toronto. Torontonians are not going to cheer for a Philly, New York or Boston based NFL team after our long standing rivalries with these cities in Hockey and Baseball, Toronto's two (mostly one) leading sports. Buffalo's NFL team is an unassuming franchise that represents a whole geographical area as opposed to a bustling metropolis and that appeals to Torontonians.

Go to a sports bar on a Sunday and watch a Bills vs. X game and I guarantee you that most of the bar cheers when the Bills score.

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I think you'd be surprised. The Bills are far and away the closest NFL team to Toronto. Torontonians are not going to cheer for a Philly, New York or Boston based NFL team after our long standing rivalries with these cities in Hockey and Baseball, Toronto's two (mostly one) leading sports. Buffalo's NFL team is an unassuming franchise that represents a whole geographical area as opposed to a bustling metropolis and that appeals to Torontonians.

Go to a sports bar on a Sunday and watch a Bills vs. X game and I guarantee you that most of the bar cheers when the Bills score.
Probably a generational thing more than anything.

I know way more Steeler/Pats/Cowboy/Packer fans than Bills fans. In fact the Bills may be one of the more detested teams(I think that stems from the "Bills Make You Want To Shout" song we were forced to listen to every Sunday).

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[QUOTE=ACC1224;15614457]Probably a generational thing more than anything.

I know way more Steeler/Pats/Cowboy/Packer fans than Bills fans. In fact the Bills may be one of the more detested teams(I think that stems from the "Bills Make You Want To Shout" song we were forced to listen to every Sunday).[/QUOTE]

As much as I love the Bills, I can't disagree with you there. That was awful. To you point, I think there are alot more Pats, Packers and Cowboys fans than Bills by far. Not sure about the Steelers though, . I was told that at home games in Pittsburgh, female fans would paint their breasts, one black and one gold and often flash the crowd. I've thought of attending one of their home games, based on that alone.

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