Latendresse bangs in front? Nope.
Latendresse finishes? Nope.
Latendresse creates for others? Dream on.
As of now, Max Pac is already close what Latendresse was supposed to become, a bruising power foward who can put the biscuit in the basket.
Not only that Max Pac brings a lot more speed and versatility that Latendresse does not.
If it were for waiver rules, Latendresse's sorry ass would be down in Hamilton.
...and Max Pac is very dissimilar to Higgins.
And I bet if Pacioretty was given a spot on the team, and forced to play with bums on the bottom lines and struggled, you'd be saying the same things about him in a few years...
And I bet if Pacioretty was given a spot on the team, and forced to play with bums on the bottom lines and struggled, you'd be saying the same things about him in few years...
Pathetic.
Lats played many game on the top lines....many. But it just so happens when an other prospect gets that chance he sticks it(Sergei).
Pacioretty was actually better in this game than the NCAA game I watched him. I'm sure there was a Kovalev bump there.
That said, its getting pretty irritating to hear Latendresse vs. Pacioretty. Pacioretty would not be taking Lats spot. He would be taking a spot occupied by either Steve Begin or Tom Kostopolous. Get that through your heads!
This is the only reason I jump into these MaxiPad threads and drop anvils on peoples heads. Why in the blazes of hell would you want to lose Guillaume Latendresse to bring up MaxiPad, but keep Begin or Kostopolous!? Absolutely ridiculous.
Anyway, we're running into the same situation that we ran into in Gui's rookie year. Let Max play in the AHL for a year and come up on fire. Make him say to himself, "I was damn good, but yeah, I could be even better."
I dont understand all this talk of getting rid of Higgins.
Yes MaxPac can and will be the same type of player as Higgins but why rid of one of them? Why not have 2 guys that will skate, crash the boards if needed, work hard down low, create chances and score?
2 is better then 1 no?
Disagree.
MaxPac and Latendresse are projected to be goal scoring power forwards.
Chris Higgins is a responsible two way forward with some offensive upside.
100% agree with this post.
Latendresse will NEVER reach the potential of Higgins. He simply doesnt have the speed to do it.
Well, they're different players. Latendresse will never be as fast as Higgins, but Higgins will never play the body as well as Latendresse does right now. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Latendresse eventually outproduce Higgins. But it would surprise me to see Latendresse become the more versatile player, as in capable of playing all situations and special teams.
They're just different players with different potential.
Pacioretty was actually better in this game than the NCAA game I watched him. I'm sure there was a Kovalev bump there.
That said, its getting pretty irritating to hear Latendresse vs. Pacioretty. Pacioretty would not be taking Lats spot. He would be taking a spot occupied by either Steve Begin or Tom Kostopolous. Get that through your heads!
This is the only reason I jump into these MaxiPad threads and drop anvils on peoples heads. Why in the blazes of hell would you want to lose Guillaume Latendresse to bring up MaxiPad, but keep Begin or Kostopolous!? Absolutely ridiculous.
Anyway, we're running into the same situation that we ran into in Gui's rookie year. Let Max play in the AHL for a year and come up on fire. Make him say to himself, "I was damn good, but yeah, I could be even better."
Enough. Said.
The sad thing is that the people who want to bring up Max and lose Lats are the same ones who wanted to bring up Lats as a youngster and now blame bringing him up too early as the main problem with his development.
I dont understand all this talk of getting rid of Higgins.
Yes MaxPac can and will be the same type of player as Higgins but why rid of one of them? Why not have 2 guys that will skate, crash the boards if needed, work hard down low, create chances and score?
2 is better then 1 no?
Because we already have 6 offensive wingers, we have to make room, and BTW Latendresse does have Higgins potential cause he has twice the talent and finishing touch Higgins has
And I bet if Pacioretty was given a spot on the team, and forced to play with bums on the bottom lines and struggled, you'd be saying the same things about him in a few years...
Pathetic.
Latendresse was given many opportunities since his first training camp on all forward lines and all he did was disappoint.
True, power forwards take longer to develop but the bottom line is that he has disappointed every year up to now. This is also another reason why he shouldn't have been up with the big club when so young.
Will he have a better year this year? I hope so. But the bottom line remains that Latendresse has failed to live up to his hype so far.
Because we already have 6 offensive wingers, we have to make room, and BTW Latendresse does have Higgins potential cause he has twice the talent and finishing touch Higgins has
I really dont agree with that but to each their own.
Comparing MaxPac to GL is absurd...the guys aren't even the same type of players, just because they're both big they're the same.
GL is a big body with hands, needing to get open and score around the net.
MaxPac is a power forward who drives the net with the puck and creates chances.
If anything MaxPac is closer to being like Higgins.
Exactly.
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Well, they're different players. Latendresse will never be as fast as Higgins, but Higgins will never play the body as well as Latendresse does right now. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Latendresse eventually outproduce Higgins. But it would surprise me to see Latendresse become the more versatile player, as in capable of playing all situations and special teams.
They're just different players with different potential.
Latendresse wont ever be a goal scoring power forward.
He has never done anything unless he played with Koivu.
Koivu is not getting any younger.
That's ridiculous, Latendresse is only 21, he's still clearly a project and despite that he's shown he has very good goal scoring instincts. The skills and body type he has you can't teach.
Latendresse wont ever be a goal scoring power forward.
He has never done anything unless he played with Koivu.
Koivu is not getting any younger.
You asked why I'd give up Higgins, I responded.
Just curious what your opinion is on the matter. I think our offensive - Higgins, but our defense + another Top4 = a better overall team. Just my opinion?
I agree completely. Latendresse has potential, but no real value on the market right now. Trading him would make zero sense. Higgins has a real value, and in Pacioretty we have a guy who can do what he does but better IMO (not yet but soon). And at some point we'll have to make a move or let someone walk, simply because we'll have to many bodies...
Also agree about O'Byrne. before we added Lang, i thought a package og Higgins and O'Byrne for a centerman was the trade were going to make.
And Higgins can't finish. Higgins ceiling is not that high just for that simple fact. If you don't create for others, and can't finish most of the time, you aren't that great of an offensive player despite your other skills...
He cant finish but still had 27 goals. Just a minor adjustment and he easily reaches 35.
Lats can play on the 4th line this year if it means our team is better. If after a while pacioretty cant handle real NHL games then he gets sent down and Lats takes his spot back. Also if there are injuries Lats can move up. I would sacrifice his development if it makes this team better. I would not sacrifice this team's potential for Latendresse's sake. Not this year.
The sad thing is that the people who want to bring up Max and lose Lats are the same ones who wanted to bring up Lats as a youngster and now blame bringing him up too early as the main problem with his development.
Beggars can't be choosers.
A future with Latendresse, Pacioretty, the Kostitsyn's, McDonaugh, Subban, Weber, Komisarek, Gorges, O'Byrne, Higgins, Plekanec, Chipchura and Maxwell... how sweet it is. Who wants to lose any of it?
EDIT: I left out the goalies, but just so no-one cries, Price and Halak too.
Comparing MaxPac to GL is absurd...the guys aren't even the same type of players, just because they're both big they're the same.
GL is a big body with hands, needing to get open and score around the net.
MaxPac is a power forward who drives the net with the puck and creates chances.
If anything MaxPac is closer to being like Higgins.
What do you think that a power forward is if not this? Cam Neely anyone?
That said, its getting pretty irritating to hear Latendresse vs. Pacioretty. Pacioretty would not be taking Lats spot. He would be taking a spot occupied by either Steve Begin or Tom Kostopolous. Get that through your heads!
I see him taking Lats's spot and Lats taking a spot on the 4th line.
Just curious what your opinion is on the matter. I think our offensive - Higgins, but our defense + another Top4 = a better overall team. Just my opinion?
Our D will definatly be better, thats for certain but, i dont know about up front. Higgins creates alot of our chances. We lose alot of attack without him.
After watching tonight's game and hearing Carbo's post-game comments, for the first time I see Pacioretty having an outside chance at getting a gig on the 3rd line to start the season.
It's a zero-sum game, if he makes the team one of the 6 offensive wingers gets the heave-ho. I've read some posters mentionning Higgins or SKost as being in danger. Anything is possible. However, the guy whose name has been whispered the most in the media has been Latendresse.
He's added some speed and has hustled during preseason. I think the best way for Latendresse to secure his position is to put up points on the scoreboard.
