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09-30-2008, 10:37 PM
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Goaltender Martin Jones signed (confirmed with link)

Word is out of Calgary that the Los Angeles Kings are set to sign goaltender Martin Jones. It's a strange situation because he's still in training camp but hasn't seen a minute of preseason action.

Take it for what it's worth at this point but the Kings are making an effort to get him under contract.

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does this guy have any
AHL stats?

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With Labarbara/Ersberg, Bernier/Quick, Taylor/Zatkoff.. where the f is he going to play?

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He's junior player. He will goback to the Hitman.

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I'm a little confused about who this guy is and why we need a player who nobody has heard of?

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That's what we cant figure out. There's no real urge to sign him and he can only play in Calgary or Los Angeles (and he's not staying in LA). There's no real logic to have him in camp this late, especially if they aren't going to play him.

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Not sure why having another goaltending prospect is a bad thing.

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His WHL stats look pretty good.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=96659

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Not sure why having another goaltending prospect is a bad thing.
It isn't...but if he is taking one of the 50 contracts away from someone else who deserves it more....then it may pose a problem.

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It's simple, really, he's close to making the team

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Or maybe we're trading one of our goalie prospects as part of a package...

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Or maybe we're trading one of our goalie prospects as part of a package...
Considering the Kings probably have the best group of young goalies they have ever had....that would not be a good move.

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Jones hasn't had the opportunity to be the full-time starter with Dan Spence around (now the current all-time leader in Hitmen wins for a goaltender). I am personally of the belief this will be Jones' team this year.

As for the contract, it is unconfirmed at this point but did hear from a reliable source the Kings are making an effort to sign him. If I were Jones, I grab the contract and run back to Calgary.

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Maybe someone sees something in him.

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Good stat, good height, little underweight, low risk, sounds good.

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It isn't...but if he is taking one of the 50 contracts away from someone else who deserves it more....then it may pose a problem.
If the link provided that shows his date of birth is accurate (1/10/1990) then he'll only be 18 years old at the signing of his first entry-level contract. That means that the Kings will be able to defer the terms of his contract until he reaches the age of 20 -- during which time he won't count against the 50 pro contract limit.

Bernier, for example, was signed to a 3-year contract back on 10/13/2006 when he was 18, but the first year of his contract didn't kick in until this season when he turned 20.

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If the link provided that shows his date of birth is accurate (1/10/1990) then he'll only be 18 years old at the signing of his first entry-level contract. That means that the Kings will be able to defer the terms of his contract until he reaches the age of 20 -- during which time he won't count against the 50 pro contract limit.

Bernier, for example, was signed to a 3-year contract back on 10/13/2006 when he was 18, but the first year of his contract didn't kick in until this season when he turned 20.
You are correct....but that is when there will be a potential problem....not this year....not next year....but in two years when Loktionov, Voinov, Teubert, Moller, and a few others have signed contracts. With the Kings ridding their system of a large portion of the vets it leaves a lot of kids....so there will be more contracts added than taken away from the 50 limit over the next couple of seasons. It is not a huge problem...but Dean may have to trade the rights to a couple of prospects away in order to make room for some others coming up. It remains to be seen if the prospects he trades away will be missed.

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Considering the Kings probably have the best group of young goalies they have ever had....that would not be a good move.
Aren't you supposed to deal from a position of strength? How many of Bernier, Zatkoff, Quick, Taylor, Rowat, Ersberg could we possibly need at one time? Besides, considering we have have Bernier, I think Quick or Zatkoff become very expendable depending on the return.

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Zatkoff sucks. I don't understand the hype behind him. Everytime I've seen him he's just not good. Trade him, sign Jones.

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Aren't you supposed to deal from a position of strength? How many of Bernier, Zatkoff, Quick, Taylor, Rowat, Ersberg could we possibly need at one time? Besides, considering we have have Bernier, I think Quick or Zatkoff become very expendable depending on the return.
The problem is at this point none of them have proven anything. How many years did Taylor avoid drafting a #1 goalie because Storr was waiting in the the wings? For all we know the whole group of Kings goaltenders could be nothing more than adequate back up goalies.....or maybe only one will truly be good and maybe it isn't Bernier. So who do you get rid of? People thought that Huet was expendable at one point. Now he is the #1 goalie on Chicago and they believe in him so much that they waived a goaltender that just won the Stanley Cup 4 years ago.

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Zatkoff sucks. I don't understand the hype behind him. Everytime I've seen him he's just not good. Trade him, sign Jones.
Did you see any of his college games? He was very good.

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Is he not still draft eligible? As an early 90 born he was passed over last year, but he would still be eligible for 2 more years under the current CBA, no? I thought you were not able to sign draft eligible players, otherwise you could have just signed guys like Lewis and Perron who were passed over in their first eligible year.

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Is he not still draft eligible? As an early 90 born he was passed over last year, but he would still be eligible for 2 more years under the current CBA, no? I thought you were not able to sign draft eligible players, otherwise you could have just signed guys like Lewis and Perron who were passed over in their first eligible year.
I don't know the rules exactly, but I do know it's possible to sign a guy who was just passed over in the draft for some period of time. Montreal just signed Robert Mayer in this way. I'm thinking there's either a hard deadline (say October 1st) or it's related to the player's season (perhaps before you've played any games in the following seson) - someone with CBA knowledge could probably answer this for sure. In any case, it would have been possible for someone to sign Lewis in summer 05 or Perron in summer 06 but nobody really knew about them then.

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The problem is at this point none of them have proven anything. How many years did Taylor avoid drafting a #1 goalie because Storr was waiting in the the wings? For all we know the whole group of Kings goaltenders could be nothing more than adequate back up goalies.....or maybe only one will truly be good and maybe it isn't Bernier. So who do you get rid of? People thought that Huet was expendable at one point. Now he is the #1 goalie on Chicago and they believe in him so much that they waived a goaltender that just won the Stanley Cup 4 years ago.
Fair enough, but isn't that the risk with ANY prospect trade?

I mean, you say it's a bad idea because the goalie we trade could blow up after we trade him (it's a stretch, I know, because this has NEVER happened with a Kings prospect ) but also that all of our current prospects could bust. On that rationale, how does ANY prospect ever get traded?

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Did you see any of his college games? He was very good.
His gawdy numbers were very much a product of the system and team in front of him, he was solid for most of the year. But look at his WJC stats, he was decent at best at the WJC. He's still has a chance to be good but at this point he still has alot to prove at the pro level, and a number of guys are far ahead of him at this point.

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