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10-03-2008, 03:45 PM
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Ottawa/Phoenix

To Phoenix: Christoph Schubert + Alex Nikulin

To Ottawa: Steve Reinprecht + Drew Fata

Phoenix gets Christoph Schubert who's a good young player (one of the best hitters in the league) who'll add some size and physicality to their defense this year and in the future. He can also line up as a winger on defense.
They also get a solid young prospect who likely won't get a chance in Ottawa anytime soon because of the large amount of centermen in our system.

Ottawa gets a good veteran player who could play on one of our top 2 lines and on the PP (likely wouldn't get that chance in Phoenix) as well as a AHL defenseman to bolster Bingo.

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Want Kaigorodov back as part of the deal?

By the way, did you count the centremen in Phoenix and in their system?

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To Phoenix: Christoph Schubert + Alex Nikulin

To Ottawa: Steve Reinprecht + Drew Fata

Phoenix gets Christoph Schubert who's a good young player (one of the best hitters in the league) who'll add some size and physicality to their defense this year and in the future. He can also line up as a winger on defense.
They also get a solid young prospect who likely won't get a chance in Ottawa anytime soon because of the large amount of centermen in our system.

Ottawa gets a good veteran player who could play on one of our top 2 lines and on the PP (likely wouldn't get that chance in Phoenix) as well as a AHL defenseman to bolster Bingo.

Thoughts?
I think it's a great proposal. Very well thought out, and quite fair in terms of value. A week or two ago, I'd have been all over it. I was hoping the Coyotes would find a defensively responsible, physical blueliner for their bottom pair. I was quite willing to dangle Reinprecht to get one, and was also hoping for a defensively responsible fourth line center to take Reinprecht's place. I was hoping for more veteren type players, but would most likely have been pretty sold on this proposal, anyway.

There's one problem, though. The Coyotes seem to have think they've already found that defenseman that I coveted. Only he's come from within our own system. Jonas Ahnelov, from all accounts, is playing the exact role I was looking for. His stepping up, so far, looks like it will eliminate my percieved need to deal for that type of defenseman. Which is a good thing because our team is so young, that a solid veteren like Reinprecht is a valuable piece. His experience, versatility, and leadership should be a big help.

That said, the trade is still very tempting. If a little ways into the season, our defense looks like it could really use something different, I'd definitely take another look at this deal.

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Want Kaigorodov back as part of the deal?

By the way, did you count the centremen in Phoenix and in their system?
Nikulin could potentially be a good fit. Apparently he's a defensively responsible, smart, playmaking center, with pretty good upside. He sounds like he could be a pretty good linemate for Lisin(who's currently penciled in next to Reinprecht, on my roster, anyway). Maybe instead of Fedoruk playing body guard on the second line, he might be better suited in that role on the fourth line, with a couple of other talented youngsters like Lisin and Nikulin. Also, Tikhonov being totally comfortable with both the English and Russian cultures and languages could potentially really help out Nikulin, who apparently had some trouble adapting(ala Lisin a couple of years ago). Nikulin's addition could be a nice fit, and could potentially build some chemistry. Also, I think being in Phoenix with the likes of Tikhonov and Lisin could also really help out his own development, a great deal.

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Shubert has been unable to win a spot on the Sens' defense for the past few years and his unwelcomed move to forward is why he looks to be trade bait.

What about that screams out "defensively reliable blueliner" to you?

As for Nikukin, no thanks. I'm not even considering him part of the original proposal as he seems as close to another Kaigorodov in every possible way as you could find and there is no way he gets a chance to play forward in Phoenix for the next couple of years at least.

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Done, do you want McAmmond too?

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To Phoenix: Christoph Schubert + Alex Nikulin

To Ottawa: Steve Reinprecht + Drew Fata

Phoenix gets Christoph Schubert who's a good young player (one of the best hitters in the league) who'll add some size and physicality to their defense this year and in the future. He can also line up as a winger on defense.
They also get a solid young prospect who likely won't get a chance in Ottawa anytime soon because of the large amount of centermen in our system.

Ottawa gets a good veteran player who could play on one of our top 2 lines and on the PP (likely wouldn't get that chance in Phoenix) as well as a AHL defenseman to bolster Bingo.

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Nice deal but where's the 4th round pick

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Nice deal but where's the 4th round pick
or the 2nd, depending on how good of package it is

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Shubert has been unable to win a spot on the Sens' defense for the past few years and his unwelcomed move to forward is why he looks to be trade bait.

What about that screams out "defensively reliable blueliner" to you?

As for Nikukin, no thanks. I'm not even considering him part of the original proposal as he seems as close to another Kaigorodov in every possible way as you could find and there is no way he gets a chance to play forward in Phoenix for the next couple of years at least.
Just because he plays for Ottawa?

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Just because he plays for Ottawa?
Just because he has threatened to bolt to Russia if he isnt immediately made the face of an NHL franchise and handed the Art Ross.

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