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10-04-2008, 05:07 PM
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It'll be weird if we have to play him tomorrow.

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no big loss!...already have enough Dmen who can fight... and actually have some hockey skill...


oh and have fun Cowan!


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10-04-2008, 05:13 PM
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I have a feeling that he'll be a Canuck again before long.

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10-04-2008, 05:36 PM
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More cuts: Brown placed on waivers, to be sent down. Hodgson not dressed for tomorrow's game, headed back to juniors soon.

http://communities.canada.com/thepro...al-roster.aspx

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10-04-2008, 06:02 PM
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More cuts: Brown placed on waivers, to be sent down. Hodgson not dressed for tomorrow's game, headed back to juniors soon.

http://communities.canada.com/thepro...al-roster.aspx
Looks like things are likely shaping up like most were expecting them to. Pettinger will start on the IR and the team will carry Wellwood, Davison, and Nycholat as spares (with Krog sent down to Manitoba).

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With Cowan and Brown waived, Pettinger injured and Hodgson, Rypien and Johnson sitting, according to this...

http://canucks.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...LPage&id=18196

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THREE PLAYERS TO SIT

As mentioned, Luongo will start in net for Vancouver and the team is expected to use it's most representative roster yet Sunday night against the Ducks. Three players who won't be playing, however, are Cody Hodgson, Ryan Johnson and Rick Pypien, according to Vigneault.
...who's on the fourth line Sunday night?

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10-04-2008, 06:30 PM
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With Cowan and Brown waived, Pettinger injured and Hodgson, Rypien and Johnson sitting, according to this...

http://canucks.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...LPage&id=18196



...who's on the fourth line Sunday night?
Brown won't be waived until Monday, so you'll see Brown, Krog, and Wellwood draw in (don't know if they will play together or not).

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10-04-2008, 06:41 PM
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Brown won't be waived until Monday, so you'll see Brown, Krog, and Wellwood draw in (don't know if they will play together or not).
Right you are and I see that pesky reading business has tripped me up again...

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10-04-2008, 06:43 PM
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With McIver gone and Cowan and Brown on waivers and possibly being picked up,
can't believe the toughness the nucks could potentially lose.

While a marshmallow like Wellwood and IR regular Rypien, who AV obviously has a
chub for is kept.

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10-04-2008, 07:10 PM
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I really hope Brown clears waivers. Would hate to see him go somewhere else.

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10-04-2008, 07:20 PM
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I could definitely see someone grabbing Brown. I'm not sure if I agree with the selection of Rypien over Brown as a matter of fact; wouldn't mind having him on our 4th line alongside Hordichuk.

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10-04-2008, 07:39 PM
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Does anyone know if Randy Carlyle coached McIver when he was on the moose? Could have another DiPenta/Huskins thing

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10-04-2008, 07:42 PM
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Does anyone know if Randy Carlyle coached McIver when he was on the moose? Could have another DiPenta/Huskins thing
Carlyle left the Moose the season before McIver got there. Probably a Nonis thing (though Burke drafted him too).

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Brown could get claimed off waivers, but it's unlikely. Fringe middleweights like Brown, McIver, Rypien, and Cowan are very replaceable.


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McIver played for the Moose in 05/06 when Carlyle was there.

Brown could get claimed off waivers, but it's unlikely. Fringe middleweights like Brown, McIver, Rypien, and Cowan are very replaceable.
Carlyle has been the Ducks coach since the lockout ended.

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Carlyle has been the Ducks coach since the lockout ended.
You're right.

Sorry, I wasn't thinking

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With McIver gone and Cowan and Brown on waivers and possibly being picked up,
can't believe the toughness the nucks could potentially lose.

While a marshmallow like Wellwood and IR regular Rypien, who AV obviously has a
chub for is kept.
And to me the toughness that we dressed in the preseason was a huge factor to our overall success.

Not 1 game in the preseason so far did i feel the canucks lacked toughness. We played against the Ducks/Sharks/Flames, and we beat all of them. Usually those teams like to start brawls at the end of the game after they lose, i wonder why not? maybe we had like 3-4 players that were tough.

If brown gets picked up, and rypien gets injured( extremely likely), we are looking at pettinger/wellwood on the 4th line. We are back to having 1 tough guy.

Bernier/mitchell/bieksa are gritty but they should not do the fighting. Davison might not even play that many games.

For once i thought the team would be tougher, but these cuts have been head scratchers. Why not cut hogdson if you will not play him on sunday. He's obviously not ready.

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10-04-2008, 08:29 PM
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I think the toughness thing comes down to the fourth line only having one spot and Rypien earned it. I doubt that Brown gets picked up (I'm guessing so do the Canucks) and if (when) Rypien gets hurt he can be brought back up to fill in that roster spot.

There was never going to be room on the team for all of Cowan, Brown, and Rypien on the roster unless one of them was sitting in the press box. They're probably playing the odds - it's much, much more likely that Nycholat/Wellwood (the other candidates to be sent down) get claimed off waivers than Brown at this point. Looks like Nycholat, Davison, and Wellwood will be the three spares. Davison can also play forward, so if Rypien does get hurt, they can sub him into the lineup in a pinch on the fourth line.

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It's a shame McIver got picked up. he's improved a lot the past couple years and looks like he has a shot at being a solid, tough, 6-7th dman. I had him pegged at 8b on the depth chart, with Nycolat at 8a depending on who was out of the lineup. I don't have a lot of faith that Fitzgerald can fill in if we need some tough d depth. I do like Heshka though, and hope he'll be able to fill in this season in a pinch. Baumer is not an NHLer any more.

Cowan, I hope gets picked up. good attitude and big heart, I hope he gets a spot somewhere.

I also hope we don't lose Brown. that's a lot of tough depth to lose over a weekend without getting anything in return.

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I could definitely see someone grabbing Brown. I'm not sure if I agree with the selection of Rypien over Brown as a matter of fact; wouldn't mind having him on our 4th line alongside Hordichuk.
Yeah, that's a Gillis move I'm not in line with.

I'm a big fan of Brown. He skates hard and hits everything that moves. And he can fight.

Rypien might have more skills but he's injured so often that he's essentially a non-factor in any long term roster planning. And I also feel Brown is a better fighter.

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Disagree. Rypien is a much better fighter than Brown, IMO. Uses his body well, blocks with his arms and elbows, knows how to shield his face, throws bodyshots.. not to mention the fact that he doesn't get thrown down easily either.

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Disagree. Rypien is a much better fighter than Brown, IMO. Uses his body well, blocks with his arms and elbows, knows how to shield his face, throws bodyshots.. not to mention the fact that he doesn't get thrown down easily either.
Brown mostly just swings a whole lot with his one arm. Rypien seems like a guy who really knows how to fight, while Brown seems like a guy who is just game to fight anyone. I'd imagine he didn't get too much practice in fighting when he was in the NCAA, either.

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Brown won't be waived until Monday, so you'll see Brown, Krog, and Wellwood draw in (don't know if they will play together or not).
Good strategy to waive him when everyone else is making waivers too.

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Good strategy to waive him when everyone else is making waivers too.
Yeah, good point.

The way I see it, if no one picks up Jeff Cowan, who has been an NHLer for eight years and has shown an ability to pot ~5-10 goals, I don't think anyone will pick up Brown either. Teams are only going to be picking up players who can help them on the big league team, and I think Cowan makes more sense in that case. It's not like they can just claim Brown and send him down to the AHL.

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Yeah, good point.

The way I see it, if no one picks up Jeff Cowan, who has been an NHLer for eight years and has shown an ability to pot ~5-10 goals, I don't think anyone will pick up Brown either. Teams are only going to be picking up players who can help them on the big league team, and I think Cowan makes more sense in that case. It's not like they can just claim Brown and send him down to the AHL.
Exactly, or else we could just pick him up and try again.

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