Jesus, the Moose are absolutely stacked right now. I'm not a fan of Ouellet at all but he's a 40 point scorer at the NHL level. A top line of Grabner-Krog-Ouellet will tear it up down there.
That's another one-way contract that the team is eating in the minors. They're really serious about spending money.
Shane O'Brien is a nice pick up. My first impression is that it seems like the Canucks paid a pretty steep price for him. They gave up two assets, Krajicek and Simek, for an asset in Shane O'Brien and a dump in Michel Ouellet, who was passed by on waivers last week and clearly has negative value.
Regardless of the price, I think our defense is going to be very difficult to play against this year.
The Canucks must believe that Nycholat can move the puck as well as Krajicek.
Michel Ouellet will probably be given a shot to play a top-six wing if he's recalled.
Shane O’Brien doesn't skate very well; I would have preferred to keep Krajicek. Sucks to see him go, he was brilliant in some stretches last year and is still a young player putting things together.
Yeah Ouellet didn't have value but I don't think Simek did either. I'm guessing the only reason he was moved was to clear space on the Moose roster for Ouellet.
O'Brien hasn't been great in TB, but I think given the opportunity to play a lesser role on a much stronger defensive team will do wonders for his game.
I'm not really liking this deal thusfar until we start to see O'Brien improve his skating and defense.....Krajicek was the one guy on our defense who could really fly. We don't need to end up like the Flames or Flyers (previous year's versions anyways) with a slow back-end.
IMHO with the addition of Davison things were looking good on the toughness front. I really do wonder if this if this is a precursor to something more?
Im surprised you guys are so excited about getting O'Brien. Im not exaggerating at all when I say: he has been a huge disappointment since he's been with Tampa. He is labeled as a "big, tough, physical" defenseman, but he hasn't done any of that since he's been here. If anything he gets burned on plays all the time. He refuses to clear people out from in front of the net and he wont drop the gloves. He played so bad in preseason and in the first game that he already got traded. He couldn't even make the crappy Tampa defense.
He will most likely try real hard to impress the team when he first gets there. But after that who knows what he will do.
I'm being 100% honest.
That being said, I know nothing about Krajicek. Could you guys give me an honest scouting report on him?
As it says in the press release, Oullet is going to report to Manitoba.
correct me if I'm wrong ... if Ouellet is recalled from the minors he must clear re-entry waivers. his numbers over the past two season aren't horrible so teams might take a crack at him in which case the Canucks would still have to pay half his salary if he never even plays a game with the them.
still i think vancouver wins this deal even if ouellet never plays with the Canucks. i think at this point in their respective careers OBrien has more upside than Krajicek.
Shane O'Brien is a nice pick up. My first impression is that it seems like the Canucks paid a pretty steep price for him. They gave up two assets, Krajicek and Simek, for an asset in Shane O'Brien and a dump in Michel Ouellet, who was passed by on waivers last week and clearly has negative value.
Regardless of the price, I think our defense is going to be very difficult to play against this year.
The Canucks must believe that Nycholat can move the puck as well as Krajicek.
Michel Ouellet will probably be given a shot to play a top-six wing if he's recalled.
I don't know how much of an asset Simek is at this point, he looks like the typical flashy guy who hasn't come close to putting it together at the NHL level yet. I view it basically as a Krajicek-O'Brien swap... Simek and Ouellet are pretty negligible.
Tampa thought enough of him at one point to deal a first-rounder for him... I wonder if his play declined, whether it's as a result of the new ownership or whether they just felt they needed a bit more experience on their very young backend.
Yeah Ouellet didn't have value but I don't think Simek did either. I'm guessing the only reason he was moved was to clear space on the Moose roster for Ouellet.
O'Brien hasn't been great in TB, but I think given the opportunity to play a lesser role on a much stronger defensive team will do wonders for his game.
I hope the same for O'Brien. With Davison here it's almost redundant. Perhaps we may also see Nycholat play a larger role? It worries me though that we lost our best skater on defense today.
But I was wondering where Krajicek was going to fit in. With Edler's emergence, he pushed Lukas down to the #6 and he just doesn't fit in that role. O'Brien suits the bottom pairing defenseman mold much better.
No idea why they pursued Oulette though, must have been to please TB as he sort of has negative value.
So the question for me is what do our PP pairings look like? Salo/Edler and Ohlund/Bieksa?
Canucks add another piece into their line-up that had over 100+ hits and 100 blocked shots last season. The blue-line for the Canucks is starting to look very physical and tough.
Im surprised you guys are so excited about getting O'Brien. Im not exaggerating at all when I say: he has been a huge disappointment since he's been with Tampa. He is labeled as a "big, tough, physical" defenseman, but he hasn't done any of that since he's been here. If anything he gets burned on plays all the time. He refuses to clear people out from in front of the net and he wont drop the gloves. He played so bad in preseason and in the first game that he already got traded. He couldn't even make the crappy Tampa defense.
He will most likely try real hard to impress the team when he first gets there. But after that who knows what he will do.
I'm being 100% honest.
That being said, I know nothing about Krajicek. Could you guys give me an honest scouting report on him?
Krajicek for a stretch of 5-10 games looked like the Canucks' best D-man. That just shows his tantilizing potential.
He's mobile and a great passer. Could use a better shot, though. Doesn't bring much of anything on the physical side of things and he's inconsistent. Also a tad bit injury prone.
He won't make or break your D corps, but I think he'll be a solid addition to your 2nd PP unit.
Im surprised you guys are so excited about getting O'Brien. Im not exaggerating at all when I say: he has been a huge disappointment since he's been with Tampa. He is labeled as a "big, tough, physical" defenseman, but he hasn't done any of that since he's been here. If anything he gets burned on plays all the time. He refuses to clear people out from in front of the net and he wont drop the gloves. He played so bad in preseason and in the first game that he already got traded. He couldn't even make the crappy Tampa defense.
He will most likely try real hard to impress the team when he first gets there. But after that who knows what he will do.
I'm being 100% honest.
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it's the fact that O'Brien was terrific on the Ducks in 06/07. He spent most of his time playing with an AHL guy in Joe Dipenta and was still remarkably solid. I think given a lesser role on this team in a more structured defensive system than TB's had the past while will really allow him to bring out the best in his game.
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That being said, I know nothing about Krajicek. Could you guys give me an honest scouting report on him?
I posted this on the main board: Krajicek has great wheels, can rush the puck, and is a decent passer. His shot is holding him back from being a good PP QB though. He's solid positionally defensively, though his lack of size leaves him overmatched at times. I think he's a solid 4/5 guy right now.
