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06-28-2004, 08:25 PM
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Rating the Oilers

Just like NHL 2004 and such games rate players on a 100 point scale, i though it would be a fun idea if we did the same. Pick one player and rate his overall abilities. This can include farm hands and prospects also. Here's what to rate:

Skaters

Shooting 0/100
Passing 0/100
Stickhandling: 0/100
Checking 0/100
Skating 0/100
Speed 0/100
Endurance 0/100
Potential 0/100
Offensive awareness 0/50
Defensive awareness 0/50
Leadership 0/50
Panalties (do they take bad penalties?) 0/50

Goalies
Glove hand: 0/100
Blocker: 0/100
Stickhandling: 0/100
Rebound Control: 0/100
Angles: 0/100
Recovery: 0/100
Agility: 0/100
Quickness: 0/100
Endurance: 0/100
Awareness (Do they play like a 3rd defenseman? Turco is the best at this) : 0/100


For both: Add it up, take your total and divide by 10. That will give you their overall rating.

scale:
99 overall : Peter Forsberg
50 overall : Jason Doig
95 overall : Martin Brodeur
60 overall : Labarberra

Here I'll start: Shawn Horcoff

Shooting 65/100
Passing 70/100
Stick Handling: 70/100
Checking 70/100
Skating 75/100
Speed 73/100
Endurance 75/100
Potential 70/100
Offensive awareness 34/50
Defensive awareness 33/50
Leadership 33/50
Panalties 30/50

Shawn Horcoff's overall rating: 69.8

Now do yours. If you disagree then make your own.

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06-28-2004, 08:39 PM
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Skaters

Shooting 70/100
Passing 70/100
Stickhandling: 73/100
Checking 78/100
Skating 74/100
Speed 70/100
Endurance 80/100
Potential 80/100
Offensive awareness 30/50
Defensive awareness 36/50
Leadership 39/50
Panalties (do they take bad penalties?) 36/50

Jarrett Stoll: 73.6
i might be a bit biased.


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06-28-2004, 08:44 PM
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Panalties (do they take bad penalties?) 15/50
For penalties i think i explained it wrong. The higher the better they are at controling themselves from taking penalties.

Marty St. Louis, Joe Sakic, Doug Weight are all 40+ in the penalties department. A 15/50 in penalties is Darcy Tucker. Certainly not Jarret Stoll


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06-28-2004, 08:52 PM
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ahh ok, i fixed it. how accurate do you think it is?

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06-28-2004, 08:53 PM
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good stuff. Jarret Stoll in my opinion is better than Horcoff. I think you were closer with Jaret as a 70 to 72. i'll do Staois later.

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06-28-2004, 08:59 PM
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Patrik Elias

Shooting 90/100
Passing 84/100
Stickhandling: 85/100
Checking 62/100
Skating 85/100
Speed 82/100
Endurance 79/100
Potential 88/100
Offensive awareness 45/50
Defensive awareness 24/50
Leadership 25/50
Panalties (do they take bad penalties?) 32/50

Score: 78.1

Too high too low?

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Patrik Elias

Shooting 90/100
Passing 84/100
Stickhandling: 85/100
Checking 62/100
Skating 85/100
Speed 82/100
Endurance 79/100
Potential 88/100
Offensive awareness 45/50
Defensive awareness 24/50
Leadership 25/50
Panalties (do they take bad penalties?) 32/50

Score: 78.1

Too high too low?
I would have Elias slightly above the 80 mark. His checking I would put at 70, endurance at 85, and speed closer to 90 than 80. Maybe I'm way off, but I think he's an 80 guy.

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Yea, I would think he's an 80 guy also, but I thought I did thinks pretty accurate. Maybe I don't watch him enough.

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Eric Brewer

Shooting 65/100
Passing 83/100
Stickhandling: 70/100
Checking 90/100
Skating 90/100
Speed 90/100
Endurance 90/100
Potential 75/100
Offensive awareness 30/50
Defensive awareness 35/50
Leadership 35/50
Penalties (do they take bad penalties?) 35/50

Overall: 78.8

Is that close?

EDIT: I can't read apparently... 85/50 for defensive awareness...

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06-28-2004, 09:42 PM
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I would personally lower his Speed, and obviously the Defensive Awareness, 85/50 isn't possible. Maybe the passing a little lower also. Just my opinion.

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I would personally lower his Speed, and obviously the Defensive Awareness, 85/50 isn't possible. Maybe the passing a little lower also. Just my opinion.
Raised his speed and passing, lowered his defensive awareness... I think he has crazy closing speed and he has a good first pass and usually makes accurate passes.

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06-29-2004, 09:09 PM
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Ryan Smyth

Shooting 77/100
Passing 80/100
Stickhandling: 77/100
Checking 72/100
Skating 88/100
Speed 84/100
Endurance 82/100
Potential 68/100
Offensive awareness 39/50
Defensive awareness 28/50
Leadership 39/50
Penalties (do they take bad penalties?) 30/50

Overall: 76.4

Controversial that our franchise player is a below 80 player?

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06-30-2004, 01:52 AM
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Ty Conklin

Glove hand: 70/100
Blocker: 72/100
Stickhandling: 85/100
Rebound Control: 73/100
Angles: 75/100
Recovery: 72/100
Agility: 77/100
Quickness: 75/100
Endurance: 74/100
Awareness: 82/100

Ty Conklin: 75.5 overall

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Compare him with Juicy!

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Ryan Smyth

Overall: 76.4

Controversial that our franchise player is a below 80 player?
His defensive awareness has gotten alot better than 28/50. He's probably closer to a 35-37 now.

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Juicy Markkannen

Glove hand: 78/100
Blocker: 75/100
Stickhandling: 86/100
Rebound Control: 75/100
Angles: 80/100
Recovery: 76/100
Agility: 79/100
Quickness: 78/100
Endurance: 76/100
Awareness: 82/100

Overall: 78.5

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His defensive awareness has gotten alot better than 28/50. He's probably closer to a 35-37 now.
Maybe... I dunno, when I was doing that attribute I kept thinking of his giveways, icings, bad passes, and failed clearings that plagued his play for much of the middle part of the season. It is true that his play improved during the last bit, so maybe I was a bit harsh... I don't think it's as high as 37 though; maybe 34-35.

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wtf? Juicy is better than Ty? how so? I thought Ty was the starter and Jussi was the backup?

Ryan Smyth should be an 82-85

Jussi should be a 70-72 (The Oilers definitely don't have an 80's goalie right now who would be an Evan Esche or a Dwayne Roloson)

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wtf? Juicy is better than Ty? how so? I thought Ty was the starter and Jussi was the backup?

Ryan Smyth should be an 82-85

Jussi should be a 70-72 (The Oilers definitely don't have an 80's goalie right now who would be an Evan Esche or a Dwayne Roloson)
It could be argued who was the starter and who was the backup during that stretch run (almost) to the playoffs. But even if Ty was the starter, you don't necessarily play the goalie with the better 'ratings'. It could be that MacT was just more comfortable playing Conks than Jussi, and that might have nothing to do with ratings at all.

Smyth is a tricky one. At some points during the season I'll watch him and think he's a perennial all-star; at other times I'll think he doesn't deserve to be in the starting lineup. You could be right about him being 82-85, I dunno... he's tricky.

And I agree we don't have an 80's goalie now... but Jussi is darn close, IMO.

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