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10-10-2008, 10:03 PM
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Begin deserves to spend the next 2 games in the stands. His 2 penalties on the same shift late in the third period were pathetic. This guy will never learn. Without Price in goal, the Habs would have lost by 3 or 4 goals. They were dominated by the Sabres throughout the game.

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10-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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Tanguay = Samsonov version 2. There, I said it.

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Tanguay = Samsonov version 2. There, I said it.
You're not serious, are you?

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10-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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I will not go over the points the previous posters brought up. They were very good points.

I am again irked that we were so badly outshot. Last season we were one of the worst teams in allowing shots on goal. I think it is important we diminish this.
That's a good point. Though, I think when Bouillon will be back in the lineup, we won't allow as many shots since he's a very good defensive defenseman (well, if you compare him to Brisebois) and that he often blocks shot. Komi also didn't have a great game tonight... he usually does better.

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10-10-2008, 10:09 PM
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GOOD:
20 Lang
6 Kostopoulos
74 S.Kostitsyn
79 Markov
26 Gorges
31 Price

OKAY:
46 A.Kostitsyn
84 Latendresse
22 Begin
14 Plekanec
11 Koivu
40 Lapierre
27 Kovalev
25 Dandenault
8 Komisarek
44 Hamrlik
3 O'Byrne

BAD:
13 Tanguay
71 Brisebois
Tanguay was much better than Koivu. The guy who was slowing down the line was Koivu. Either he's still hurt or he can't keep up. Or he's just not in game shape yet. I saw 3-4 times that Tanguay was WAITING for Koivu at the blue line because our captain was just plain slow. Heck, even Latendresse looked faster.

Price was fabulous. The kid is a phenom.

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10-10-2008, 10:09 PM
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I was somewhat disappointed Kovalev took so long to control the game like he did in the late-3rd and OT. We would've had a better chance if he had done this a couple shifts sooner.

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I thought the Canadiens played a great game, especially defensively. Yeah, we got a bunch of shots, but many of them weren't real quality, especially later in the game. And the PK absolutely demolished us, our forwards (and point men) didn't have much of any space to work with (of course, our PP usually sucks when Connolly is out of the lineup, but I digress). The Canadiens had the bulk of the good chances at the end of that game, Miller just rose to the occasion today.

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10-10-2008, 10:11 PM
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when Higgins come back the lines should be :

A.Kosty-Pleky-Kovalev
Higgins-Koivu-Latendresse
Tanguay-Lang-S.Kosty
Laraque/Begin/Lapierre-Chipchura-Kosto

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Please come back quickly Broth..

I like what i saw of the team in the third (minus the penalties).

The Kovy line is already creating things.

AKost needs the puck more.

Lang surprised me. He's not too quick but his SIZE gives him tons of space.

Tanguay looked tired.

Koivu was very bad but we can excuse him, he was injured during pre.

Price was great and quick on his feet.

Lats needs to stop giving up the puck right as he gets it (see above poster)

Subway ads are ********.

You can show mangled bodies on TV, it's OK. Showing a breast though, isn't.

Markov is a wizard.

Roy is a diver. (Learned from Briere..?)
So was Tanguay.

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10-10-2008, 10:17 PM
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Begin deserves to spend the next 2 games in the stands. His 2 penalties on the same shift late in the third period were pathetic. This guy will never learn. Without Price in goal, the Habs would have lost by 3 or 4 goals. They were dominated by the Sabres throughout the game.
I dont think we've watched the same game. The Sabres did not dominate at all, yes they had more shots but they took many useless shots from bad angles. Habs had many great shifts where they carried the play in the Sabres zone for long sequences, we just couldnt finish.

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10-10-2008, 10:18 PM
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I forgot how bad I was feeling after a loss.

I don't want to be remembered how I feel after a loss against the Leafs (it's even worse).

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Someone should tell Koivu his shootout move is getting predictable...and Kovy should be the #1 or #2 guy in these situation.

Anyways 1 point in a road game isn't that bad...81 to go.

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10-10-2008, 10:20 PM
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Someone should tell Koivu his shootout move is getting predictable...and Kovy should be the #1 or #2 guy in these situation.

Anyways 1 point in a road game isn't that bad...81 to go.
BTW if koivu doesnt lose the puck, he scores. Predictable move but they just cant stop it.

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Someone should tell Koivu his shootout move is getting predictable...
Yet it still works when he completes the move.
The problem was not the move but its execution.

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10-10-2008, 10:25 PM
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Yet it still works when he completes the move.
The problem was not the move but its execution.
Exactly, he had the room he needed but just drop the puck.

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10-10-2008, 10:26 PM
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GOOD:
20 Lang
6 Kostopoulos
74 S.Kostitsyn
79 Markov
26 Gorges
31 Price

OKAY:
46 A.Kostitsyn
84 Latendresse
22 Begin
14 Plekanec
11 Koivu
40 Lapierre
27 Kovalev
25 Dandenault
8 Komisarek
44 Hamrlik
3 O'Byrne

BAD:
13 Tanguay
71 Brisebois
Agreed. Tanguay had a few nice passes but overall wasn't very impressive. Bobbled the puck a few times at the point on the PP losing it once or twice.

Lang looked great.
Gorges too.
Hammer was pretty solid for missing most of the preseason.


All in all, we know we have alot to look forward to since our 3rd line was our best tonight

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10-10-2008, 10:27 PM
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Agreed. Tanguay had a few nice passes but overall wasn't very impressive. Bobbled the puck a few times at the point on the PP losing it once or twice.

Lang looked great.
Gorges too.
Hammer was pretty solid for missing most of the preseason.


All in all, we know we have alot to look forward to since our 3rd line was our best tonight
Gorges looked worst than OB.

OB is getting better and better guys.

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10-10-2008, 10:29 PM
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My only concern, and I know it's the first game, but I don't see a chemistry between Koivu and Tanguay. Now it shouldn't be problematic 'cause you just have to separate them. Thing is, Latendresse isn't 2nd line material.

So the only lines that could make sense would be:

SKost-Koivu-Higgs
Lats-Lang-Tang

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10-10-2008, 10:29 PM
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Gorges looked worst than OB.

OB is getting better and better guys.
Gorges looked great IMO, the only defenseman who played bad was Brisebois.

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10-10-2008, 10:32 PM
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Shootout...

The Sabres fan who posted made some very good points.

Was I the only one who noticed that Lang had no plan for the shootout...he was so casual and decided to go for the goal with instinct? (The end product was weak and he had no conviction it seemed...) That said he had a good game.

Koivu's move is old...but usually works...only Legace of all people stopped him on it when we played STL last year...This time it did not work because he lost control of the puck which is rare...

Do we even practice shootouts? (Ok ok we probably do...)

Lastly Price was beaten by the same move twice I bet he is eating his hat over that shootout cos normally the price is right in the shootouts....

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10-10-2008, 10:34 PM
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Ah well, we usually **** the bed in Buffalo (last year's 6-2 triumph and the comeback 4-3 OT win were exceptions). Must be the atmosphere and/or the ice. While the Habs always seem to ride smooth sailing from October to the beginning of December since the lockout, the first few games tend to be a rougher patch. Last season we looked out of sync a bit and the offense struggled especially at home early on (recall a 2-1 SO loss to Florida, a 3-1 loss to Carolina).

The cynicism about our offense was there, but the talent meshed beginning with a 6-1 shellacking of Boston (followed by a 7-4 win over Carolina and I think another 5 against our next opponent- Philly maybe?). No worries, but please please can we not struggle to beat Toronto? I swear, even at home we have our issues but we have about 1 or 2 commanding victories in Toronto's ACC all-time (a 2003 4-0 win where Ryder got his 1st ever and a 5-2 win the year before that).

It's a srange disease for superior Hab teams to struggle with the Leafs (even in the 80s they were neck-and-neck, once finishing dead last but taking all 3 with us in 1984-85). Let's actually control and own their ***** for a change tomorrow. If tonight wasn't a good feeling-out/waking up process, then what is? I might be hoping in vain. We're likely to see a 1 goal game. But the Leafs have changed a tad. No more Sundin, Tucker, Wellwood and McCabe and those guys used to own us more than they had a right to. There are new faces but all I know is how well Antropov, Kaberle and Ponikarovsky have done vs. us over the years. As long as Grabo doesn't tear it up, I'm fine.

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My only concern, and I know it's the first game, but I don't see a chemistry between Koivu and Tanguay. Now it shouldn't be problematic 'cause you just have to separate them. Thing is, Latendresse isn't 2nd line material.

So the only lines that could make sense would be:

SKost-Koivu-Higgs
Lats-Lang-Tang
Tanguay - Lang - S. Kostitsyn
Higgins - Koivu - Latendresse

Koivu knows Latendresse and Higgins, and I don't want to break the chemestry between Lang and S. Kostitsyn. They're doing great together.

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You know what dissapoints( to fail to fulfill the expectations or wishes ) me the most. It's how we have been told by everyone how deep the Habs system is, yet we have Dandy still playing for us(4th line), and Kosto on the 3rd line. It really resembles last years team. Oh well maybe we will see this depth later in the season.

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The last thing I want to hear tomorrow on HNIC is anyone bring up the shootout and start analyzing how Price "lost the game for us" or "With Halak playing the Leafs, is there a controversy brewing in Montreal?" or some stupid **** like that. Price was amazing tonight, this guy has ELITE written all over him.

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