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10-10-2008, 05:45 PM
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Vancouver - Pittsburgh

VAN: Jordan Staal, 5th round draft pick

PIT: Kevin Bieksa

Helps the Pens on the D and powerplay without Gonchar, and brings some more offensive depth to Vancouver.

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10-10-2008, 05:47 PM
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VAN: Jordan Staal, 5th round draft pick

PIT: Kevin Bieksa

Helps the Pens on the D and powerplay without Gonchar, and brings some more offensive depth to Vancouver.
hopefully your ready to get torched

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10-10-2008, 05:54 PM
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hopefully your ready to get torched

Nah. I think most Pens fans have given up caring enough about these proposals to torch anybody.

A simple "no" shall suffice.

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10-10-2008, 06:03 PM
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Bieksa isn't nearly enough. I think Staal is overrated (ppg in OHL, 41 goals in 2 seasons) but he's still young and the Pens won't move him.

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Jesus Staal can never be traded...


Seriously though, Staal is overrated, but it takes more than just Bieksa, just not as MUCH more as so many people on hfboards think.

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Nah. I think most Pens fans have given up caring enough about these proposals to torch anybody.

A simple "no" shall suffice.
Nope. Now let the "Staal is overrated" trend continue.

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Now that Edler's signed for the next 5 years, I guess Bieksa's assumed the mantle of "centerpiece Canuck in rejected Staal proposals".

Edler had a nice run, but I think Bieksa can handle the responsibility.

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10-10-2008, 07:22 PM
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yea right! Bieksa is so overrated he doesnt have much trade value. Staal is too but i take Staal over Bieksa anyday.

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To Pittsburgh:
Ohlund
conditional 1st(If Staal resigns with the Cannucks
conditional 2nd(If Staal doesn't resign with the Cannucks

To Vancouver: Staal

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10-10-2008, 07:53 PM
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That's like suggesting you trade Jesus for Ezekiel.

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10-10-2008, 08:21 PM
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Bieksa is so overrated he doesnt have much trade value.
Thanks for the in-depth analysis. If you could explain how a 10goal/40+ pt defenseman who will drop his gloves in a second for his teammates is overrated I'd love to hear it.

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Why is Pittsburgh throwing in the 5th rounder when Staal is clearly the better player

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If you could explain how a 10goal/40+ pt defenseman who will drop his gloves in a second for his teammates is overrated I'd love to hear it.
He gets offered for a kid who's one year removed from scoring 29 goals as an 18 year old, while being a defensive stalwart, and who played a key role in a Finals run.

And the OP figures Pittsburgh has to add to even it up.

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He gets offered for a kid who's one year removed from scoring 29 goals as an 18 year old, while being a defensive stalwart, and who played a key role in a Finals run.

And the OP figures Pittsburgh has to add to even it up.

You're welcome.
So he's overrated because of one trade proposal? No....I don't think so.

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Pittsburgh doesnt touch this

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Big time no from Shero.

Staal is better than Bieksa.

Why give up a pick?

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VAN: Jordan Staal, 5th round draft pick

PIT: Kevin Bieksa

Helps the Pens on the D and powerplay without Gonchar, and brings some more offensive depth to Vancouver.
I wouldn't do this from Pitts point of view but than again i wouldn't remotely give up what Pitts thinks Staal is worth. Way overrated by Pitt fans while somewhat underrated by the rest.

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10-10-2008, 11:20 PM
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So he's overrated because of one trade proposal? No....I don't think so.
Just take it as a small sample of a larger overestimation of his abilities.

It won't hurt your brain so much.

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10-10-2008, 11:27 PM
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Pens would not do this lol

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10-10-2008, 11:42 PM
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to vancouver: j. staal
+ conditional 2nd 2010 for each team (if ohlund resigns, pick to van, if staal signs extension, pick to pitts)
to pittsburgh: ohlund, grabner, late pick

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10-10-2008, 11:52 PM
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VAN: Jordan Staal, 5th round draft pick

PIT: Kevin Bieksa

Helps the Pens on the D and powerplay without Gonchar, and brings some more offensive depth to Vancouver.
No.

Whitney is back late December/early January. Once Therrien figures out how to plan a powerplay without Whitney and Gonchar at the point, they'll be ok enough to wait till at least Whitney comes back.

If the Penguins trade Staal, it's to get back a top 6 winger, not a defenseman and it would be in a package deal of course since Jordan won't exactly land a top 6 winger by himself in a trade.

I like Bieksa, but not for that price.

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