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10-12-2008, 09:23 PM
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point is if higgins gets under 30 goals imo it wud be a disappointment and i think many wud agree
For me, 25-30 is acceptable.


Anything less would require justification

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10-12-2008, 09:27 PM
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For me, 25-30 is acceptable.


Anything less would require justification
anything less than 25 would need ALOT ALOT of justification because i see soooo much potential in him

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10-12-2008, 09:37 PM
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Hopefully when Higgins comes back, Latendresse keeps his spot as Koivu's winger and Higgins is slotted in as the 1st line* LW with Lang and Sergei.

*By calling that line the 1st line, I make sure it doesn't seem like I'm brushing Higgins off into a lesser role, so that no feelings are hurt.

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10-12-2008, 09:50 PM
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Hopefully when Higgins comes back, Latendresse keeps his spot as Koivu's winger and Higgins is slotted in as the 1st line* LW with Lang and Sergei.

*By calling that line the 1st line, I make sure it doesn't seem like I'm brushing Higgins off into a lesser role, so that no feelings are hurt.
but no one would actually believe its the 1st line including higgins also i dont think the real 1st and 2nd line would like that

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10-12-2008, 10:03 PM
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anything less than 25 would need ALOT ALOT of justification because i see soooo much potential in him
Well... maybe a couple of people tend to overate him. He is a very good player, but I don't think he has the potential to be dominant. He'll get his share of goals, but his in no way a superstar. I agree with Chezz. Between 25 and 30 goals is just what I expect from him year in and year out.

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10-12-2008, 11:21 PM
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even on the 3rd line i would put him on the RW and leave Skost on the LW
Sergei seems like a natural RW to me.... Much like his brother i think both are RWs....

All three of his points last night he was on the right side of the ice.

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10-12-2008, 11:29 PM
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Sergei seems like a natural RW to me.... Much like his brother i think both are RWs....

All three of his points last night he was on the right side of the ice.
Other than this sample, what else do you base yourself on? He was the LW on the Kane, Gagner line. He can play both wings equally well and I haven't seen any difference in his game wether he was on the right or left. I think people are looking way too much into this RW-LW business. I could understand a guy like Kovalev who made a whole career out of it, but this isn't the case, especially not for Sergei.

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10-12-2008, 11:33 PM
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Other than this sample, what else do you base yourself on? He was the LW on the Kane, Gagner line. He can play both wings equally well and I haven't seen any difference in his game wether he was on the right or left. I think people are looking way too much into this RW-LW business. I could understand a guy like Kovalev who made a whole career out of it, but this isn't the case, especially not for Sergei.
I base it on a number of passes he made last year from the RW position on the half boards.... He looks like a poor mans kovalev in that spot with the LH shot.

I also base it on his play on the Higgins-Koivu-SKost line last year when he replaced Ryder... he's looked very comfortable on that side

I think he can play both LW and RW, but to me he is a hair better on the RW side.

Either way if you are gonna put Higgins and Sergei on the same line, in my mind its quite obvious that Higgins is much worse moving to the Right side than Sergei is.

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10-12-2008, 11:36 PM
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The way that S.Kost as been playing the first two game, a line made of Higgins, Lang and S.Kost would certainly have the potential to outscore our so called first and second line. I for one would realy love to see Higgins with someone else then Koivu. I think he would take more responsabilities.

Just my 2 cents.

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10-12-2008, 11:37 PM
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its not exactly a demotion for him to be on the third line. We have lines 1a, 1b, 1c. Koivu and Lats seem to play well together.

I also think that Higgins' ideal spot is a 3rd liner. He would be a great shutdown guy that can also chip in offensively.

No matter where he plays we still have 3 great lines, i dont think it matters much.
A 3rd liner who scored 27 goals last year?

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10-12-2008, 11:40 PM
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I base it on a number of passes he made last year from the RW position on the half boards.... He looks like a poor mans kovalev in that spot with the LH shot.

I also base it on his play on the Higgins-Koivu-SKost line last year when he replaced Ryder... he's looked very comfortable on that side

I think he can play both LW and RW, but to me he is a hair better on the RW side.

Either way if you are gonna put Higgins and Sergei on the same line, in my mind its quite obvious that Higgins is much worse moving to the Right side than Sergei is.
It doesn't really matter anyways, he can play both well and simply adapt to what the situation needs.

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10-12-2008, 11:46 PM
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Higgins will join Koivu. S. Kostitsyn is a diamond in the rough. He will make a third or fourth line dangerous.

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10-12-2008, 11:57 PM
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It doesn't really matter anyways, he can play both well and simply adapt to what the situation needs.
Agreed... and his ability to play both is the reason i definetely put him on the Right and Higgins on the left if they are to play together. Higgins hasn't shown the same ability to play on the right (granted he hasn't been given much chance to either)...

but why mess with it...
we know higgins can play left... he is an unknown on the right
we know sergei can play either

Simple logic.... Higgins on the left... sergei on the right.

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10-13-2008, 01:58 AM
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I've been saying since we got Lang that I wanted Higgs with Lang and Sergei, and last night's performance by the Koivu line seems to have convinced lots of people of that too.

I think how Lats-Koivu-Tangs does tomorrow will be a key factor since Higgins seems to be on track for a Wednesday return.

I have to agreed with this. Higgins will replace Kostopoulos fairly enough and the two "quebecois" will be able to play together with Captain K.

My only concern is that Higgins will probably miss 1000 chances that Sergei will give him... Hopefully, he grinds in corners and gives the puck to Lang or Sergei. The real sniper on this line is Lang, no doubt. Higgins job will be to forecheck hard, grind in the corners and be the first to backcheck.



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10-13-2008, 02:06 AM
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I have to agreed with this. Higgins will replace Kostopoulos fairly enough and the two "quebecois" will be able to play together with Captain K.

My only concern is that Higgins will probably miss 1000 chances that Sergei will give him... Hopefully, he grinds in corners and gives the puck to Lang or Sergei. The real sniper on this line is Lang, no doubt. Higgins job will be to forecheck hard, grind in the corners and be the first to backcheck.
I'm still kinda hoping we see a

Higgins - Chipchura - Sergei

line at some point....

Cause i think it would be funny and your head might explode.
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As far as this post goes... Higgins is gonna shoot the puck.. he was second on the team in shots last year for a reason... thats what he does... he shoots... and thats not a bad thing. I think the rest of what you said is true though... his job on the line will be to forecheck and work the boards on the line and also be defensively responsible.

When Lang and Sergei have the puck though... I want him getting open for chances.

For as many chances as he missed... he still scored 27 goals last year....

Thats pretty good.

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10-13-2008, 02:36 AM
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Personally I would let Lats on Koivu's line but anyway I don't think Carbs can really go wrong with his decision.

Playing with Lang and S. Kost is not what we can really call a demotion

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10-13-2008, 02:39 AM
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Higgins has a better shot than Lats, he plays with Koivu on the 2nd line. Lats should be down on the 3rd line. We have so much depth now that S. Kost is on the 3rd line when he is top 2 line material.

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10-13-2008, 07:08 AM
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Higgins has a better shot than Lats, he plays with Koivu on the 2nd line. Lats should be down on the 3rd line. We have so much depth now that S. Kost is on the 3rd line when he is top 2 line material.
Latendresse has a better shot. He just hasn't adjusted it to NHL speed yet.

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Higgins has a better shot than Lats, he plays with Koivu on the 2nd line. Lats should be down on the 3rd line. We have so much depth now that S. Kost is on the 3rd line when he is top 2 line material.
heck no. Higgins is a superb player, but he doesn't have a better shot than Lats.

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I like the way Lats is playing but i really don't see a fit with Koivu and Tanguay. Using the current roster plus Higgins and BGL

Higgins/koivu/Tanguay
AKost/Pleks/kovy
Lats/Lang/SKost
TKost/Laps/BGL

Man it will be great to roll those first three lines all night long until we bury the opponents

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heck no. Higgins is a superb player, but he doesn't have a better shot than Lats.
Hmmm. Can't say I ever thought of Lats as a guy with a great shot. I'll just leave iot at that

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10-13-2008, 08:26 AM
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Higgins has a better shot than Lats, he plays with Koivu on the 2nd line. Lats should be down on the 3rd line. We have so much depth now that S. Kost is on the 3rd line when he is top 2 line material.
Actually I would say that Lats has a better shot than Higgins. But Higgins release is faster and he's able to get into a shooting lane better than Lats.

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10-13-2008, 08:33 AM
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We should trade him.

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10-13-2008, 08:41 AM
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do u think all 3 injured players will be ready for the home opener
I ain't the trainer, but the media has been saying all 3 will be.

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10-13-2008, 08:43 AM
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We should trade him.
I disagree...


Bob took several years to build up the chemistry the way it is at the moment and Higgins is an integral part of it.


So I'd hold off on trading him for awhile if ever

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