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10-14-2008, 03:19 AM
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I dont know guys...I really don't...

I'm hoping there was no foul play in all of this...I really am...at the same time I wouldn't doubt it....considering the russian/u.s. transfer agreement, and Alex's tenative anouncement that he will come to the NHL.

May your soul rest in peace Alex .
A mental case here.

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10-14-2008, 03:31 AM
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I still can't get over this. RIP Alexei
I actually feel worse today than yesterday. Now the first shock has vanished and now there's only sorrow. I hardly knew the kid, yet still it feels like I did. I've never felt like this because of someone dying so far away and who I've never met in person.

He scored more goals in RSL than Bure did. He was onto something great and was amazing this year. His dream was to play in NHL and ours was to watch him play. Now his dream will never come true, ever, and neither will ours. You hardly even want to think about it.

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10-14-2008, 03:35 AM
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Rest in peace... he would of had a great career

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I actually feel worse today than yesterday. Now the first shock has vanished and now there's only sorrow. I hardly knew the guy, yet still it feels like I did. I've never felt like this because of someone dying so far away and who I've never met in person.
I totally agree.

No matter how many videos, news clips and articles I read, this just won't go away. I really wish I was dreaming...

I feel so much sadness but I can't stop reading, watching etc.

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10-14-2008, 03:47 AM
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There was a guy in a Devils jersey tonight in Sec. 313, last row, all the way on the right who said "who gives a s**t" during the moment of silence for Cherry, and asked whether the team would announce it was Jagr who quote "killed him."

I know there's been some Devils fans here offer their condolences, and we appreciate that. But if that Devil fan is on this board, I hope his conscious eats away at him for classless, gutter trash, douc**bag remarks like that.

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10-14-2008, 03:56 AM
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There was a guy in a Devils jersey tonight in Sec. 313, last row, all the way on the right who said "who gives a s**t" during the moment of silence for Cherry, and asked whether the team would announce it was Jagr who quote "killed him."

I know there's been some Devils fans here offer their condolences, and we appreciate that. But if that Devil fan is on this board, I hope his conscious eats away at him for classless, gutter trash, douc**bag remarks like that.
Several Devils fans here on hfboards wrote before the game that if any Devils fan makes something unclassy in reference to Cherepanov during the game, slap'em for them.

You should have taught him some manners first hand. Some things, you just don't. Gloating over someone's misfortune, especially someone losing the most precious they have, their life, is absolutely taboo.

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10-14-2008, 04:12 AM
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Five days before Cherepanov started blog.
He told about future World Junior Champ, some words about Jagr, Fleming.
такие дела.
Покойся с миром, Лёша(

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10-14-2008, 04:25 AM
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absolutely unbelievable
what can be said that most have not already.....
condolences

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10-14-2008, 04:59 AM
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I hope it eats at him whether he's here or not.

And frankly, I pity people that can make heartless comments like that, because it betrays a lack of empathy and considerateness that probably makes their lives tough to live.


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There was a guy in a Devils jersey tonight in Sec. 313, last row, all the way on the right who said "who gives a s**t" during the moment of silence for Cherry, and asked whether the team would announce it was Jagr who quote "killed him."

I know there's been some Devils fans here offer their condolences, and we appreciate that. But if that Devil fan is on this board, I hope his conscious eats away at him for classless, gutter trash, douc**bag remarks like that.

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10-14-2008, 05:09 AM
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Thats no excuse. Like someone said there are defibrillators on every school floor. I use to swim when I was a kid and every pool had it, and that was a non contact sport. This is hockey, theres going to be hard hits, whats the excuse for not having a defibrillator? THE ONLY reason I SEE of not having one is that they actually do cost alot and are often stolen, but seeing as how this is the KHL they should have maybe taken 100,000 out of Jagrs paycheck and invested in defibrillators?. ALSO, they are very easy to use, a 10 minute training course should cover that. Along with the fact they have instructions on the actual AED themselves.
Might not be like that everywhere. I know here in Germany it is not like that. Defibrillators are rare here. I know they made a big deal out of it when they introduced them in pro-football in Germany because one player has a known heart condition. I am not sure they have them here at rinks, but I would be surprised. They certayinly are not in bureaus or offices a common sight here.

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10-14-2008, 05:35 AM
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Terrible news, and a very sad day...

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10-14-2008, 05:53 AM
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Heart muscle hypertrophy is a prelim observation. Enlarged heart of 495 g, with the norm being 290 g

On the other hand all pro athletes have a hypertrophied heart muscle...


"Согласно заключению судмедэксперта, проводившего вскрытие форварда омского
"Авангарда" Алексея Черепанова, причиной внезапной смерти хоккеиста стала острая
сердечная недостаточность, вызванная миокардиопатией, скорее всего -
гипертрофией сердечной мышцы.

По словам управляющего директора КХЛ Владимира Шалаева, сердце форварда весило
около 495 граммов при норме в 290."


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10-14-2008, 06:17 AM
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Did Cherepanov have any brothers or sisters?

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10-14-2008, 06:57 AM
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10-14-2008, 07:04 AM
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ESPN just reported that there may be a criminal investigation opened, to determine if his death was due to negligence

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10-14-2008, 07:21 AM
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If you understand Russian:

http://www.1tv.ru/newsvideo/130194

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10-14-2008, 07:32 AM
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ESPN just reported that there may be a criminal investigation opened, to determine if his death was due to negligence

I was hoping this would happen.

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I was hoping this would happen.
His death will be justified.

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http://webleedblue.net/showthread.php?t=5715&page=19

Don't know if I'm late with this, but just read that he might have had an Ischaemic heart disease. I'm no doctor, but shouldn't that be detected pretty "easily"? If they knew about something like that, then why was he even playing in the first place?

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Heart muscle hypertrophy is a prelim observation. Enlarged heart of 495 g, with the norm being 290 g

On the other hand all pro athletes have a hypertrophied heart muscle...


"Согласно заключению судмедэксперта, проводившего вскрытие форварда омского
"Авангарда" Алексея Черепанова, причиной внезапной смерти хоккеиста стала острая
сердечная недостаточность, вызванная миокардиопатией, скорее всего -
гипертрофией сердечной мышцы.

По словам управляющего директора КХЛ Владимира Шалаева, сердце форварда весило
около 495 граммов при норме в 290."


That's not exactly the case. Normal heart muscle (smooth muscle) does not grow as it becomes stronger, like regular muscles (striated muscle). This is what happened to my friend Paul and what I had guessed happened to Alexei:

For small percentage of people, the heart muscle DOES grow. This does not affect most people with the condition, because they do not take their hearts to such extremes that they grow too big to function. For athletes, though, it's a time-bomb. Basically, the more they exercise, the closer they get to a heart attack.

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10-14-2008, 08:02 AM
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"Russian investigators said Cherepanov suffered from chronic ischemia, a medical condition in which not enough blood gets to the heart or other organs."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=386528

Did nobody know about this until the kid died?

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10-14-2008, 08:04 AM
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ugh....I feel worse today than yesterday, also...I was hoping it was nightmare....

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Still cannot wrap my head around this....just awful.

My heart goes out to Alexei's family and teammates.

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In the interview someone posted above one of the doctors of the hospital where Cherepanov was brought to said that it was 50 minutes since his collapse that he was brought to the hospital. This is unbelievable, simply criminal.

Now get this - it is former NHLer Alexei Zhamnov who is the GM of the Vityaz club. It is the responsibility of his club (as well as the KHL management) to have all the medical means in place. The ambulance left the arena several minutes before the incident.

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