One thing about HF Boards, it really paints a picture for you of the fanbases for each club, and I have to say, it's been a real eye-opener here in terms of Canadiens fans.
Sure, there's lots of passionate fans, but I'm constantly amazed at how many truly clueless fans there are here as well.
To dismiss the efforts of Michael Ryder, who worked his way through the clubs system, played well in the American league then busted his ass and made the team out of camp when nobody expected him to do so, then promptly became a 30-goal scorer in the NHL is nothing short of ignorant.
I would seriously call into question your knowledge of the game and of the Canadiens if you have an issue with his time here in Montreal. And what exactly was your issue with his "attitude" last year? I'd love to hear this one.
By the way, the last sentence of your post couldn't be more ironic.
OK; First, I have never been a fan of him, just like Pierre Dagenais, he is a guy that have a wrist shot, that is all, can't skate, can't pass, can't play in is own zone. A one dimensional player. From the beginning I hated him. So I did with dagenais, who could also had became a 30 goal scorer given the chance Ryder had.
You would love to hear my issue?
here it is: The guy didn't score anymore, then got benched, then got put in the stands.
Have you ever saw an interview where he looked mad, pissed, even frustrated of his performances? no, never said I am going to work my ass off that slump, doing extra practice etc... Always said things like: it's going to come back, I'm not lucky etc...
Smiling after a loss piss me off
Smiling in the press box when we are loosing piss me off even more.
that is, IMO, his attitude problem.
Oh yeah I'm a clueless and ignorant fan that don't know his hockey that played 2 years junior AAA.
You see, that is how you give you point/ideas/thoughs without insulting directly and freely another poster that you never seen and don't know anything about.
Sorry if the english is bad I loose my second language when I'm pissed.
I think a smart move woulda been to cheer him for what hes done with the habs since the game didnt actually matter then when the season start do whatever you want, but at least for his comeback people soulda act smarter to me.
How can you hate a guy for not having a good vision or not being good in his own end(And he wasnt that bad) The guy was supose to be a borderline AHLers and he made it to the NHL and scored a good bunch of goals he overarchieved alot.
You cant blame a guy for being bad, if he isnt more skilled it's most likely not because he didnt try I'm pretty sure he'd like to have a better vision, but he doesnt. It's not like he's the only sniper that is average in the passing game either.
here it is: The guy didn't score anymore, then got benched, then got put in the stands.
Have you ever saw an interview where he looked mad, pissed, even frustrated of his performances? no, never said I am going to work my ass off that slump, doing extra practice etc... Always said things like: it's going to come back, I'm not lucky etc...
Smiling after a loss piss me off
Smiling in the press box when we are loosing piss me off even more.
that is, IMO, his attitude problem.
So your preference would be for him to become a distraction, much like Sergei Samsonov. Even though the team was winning, leading the conference in fact, you would like him to be pouting aroudn the Bell Centre and giving interviews where he complained and got angry, all of which would have been magnified and blown out of proportion by the ravenous Montreal media. That's what you want?
You think his attitude sucked because ... he had no attitude? He put the good of the team ahead of his personal issues?
Seriously?
By your defintion Michael Ryder had a lousy attitude and Sergei Samsonov had a good one?
Last edited by Habs10Habs: 10-03-2008 at 07:08 PM.
Reason: Be nice.
So your preference would be for him to become a distraction, much like Sergei Samsonov. Even though the team was winning, leading the conference in fact, you would like him to be pouting aroudn the Bell Centre and giving interviews where he complained and got angry, all of which would have been magnified and blown out of proportion by the ravenous Montreal media. That's what you want?
You think his attitude sucked because ... he had no attitude? He put the good of the team ahead of his personal issues?
Seriously?
By your defintion Michael Ryder had a lousy attitude and Sergei Samsonov had a good one?
What I'm saying is that he didn't had a winner's attitude.
anyway you have the right to think I'm wrong, I have no problems with that, as long as it is made with respect.
Samsonov didn't had the right attitude too, blaming everyone else then himself for his poroblems.
I think both players forgot to look in the mirror during their slump to find solutions.
And I didn't hate Ryder; I did not like him, huge difference.
Good for him if he has a good season, as long as he doesn't hurt us. But his departure made our team better, in my opinion.
I think a smart move woulda been to cheer him for what hes done with the habs since the game didnt actually matter then when the season start do whatever you want, but at least for his comeback people soulda act smarter to me.
How can you hate a guy for not having a good vision or not being good in his own end(And he wasnt that bad) The guy was supose to be a borderline AHLers and he made it to the NHL and scored a good bunch of goals he overarchieved alot.
You cant blame a guy for being bad, if he isnt more skilled it's most likely not because he didnt try I'm pretty sure he'd like to have a better vision, but he doesnt. It's not like he's the only sniper that is average in the passing game either.
yeah, but there's nothing that pisses me off more then someone with a certain amount of abilities who tries to play over his head, therefor becoming a turnover machine. Keep the play simple if you ain't Sidney Crosby
yeah, but there's nothing that pisses me off more then someone with a certain amount of abilities who tries to play over his head, therefor becoming a turnover machine. Keep the play simple if you ain't Sidney Crosby
It's his game. Maybe he tried too much because hd didnt have the hockey sense to react quicker and smarter.
OK; First, I have never been a fan of him, just like Pierre Dagenais, he is a guy that have a wrist shot, that is all, can't skate, can't pass, can't play in is own zone. A one dimensional player. From the beginning I hated him. So I did with dagenais, who could also had became a 30 goal scorer given the chance Ryder had.
You would love to hear my issue?
here it is: The guy didn't score anymore, then got benched, then got put in the stands.
Have you ever saw an interview where he looked mad, pissed, even frustrated of his performances? no, never said I am going to work my ass off that slump, doing extra practice etc... Always said things like: it's going to come back, I'm not lucky etc...
Smiling after a loss piss me off
Smiling in the press box when we are loosing piss me off even more.
that is, IMO, his attitude problem.
Oh yeah I'm a clueless and ignorant fan that don't know his hockey that played 2 years junior AAA.
You see, that is how you give you point/ideas/thoughs without insulting directly and freely another poster that you never seen and don't know anything about.
Sorry if the english is bad I loose my second language when I'm pissed.
Wow....You are pissed because isntead of making a scene in the media he kept it inside the team? Tried to keep it cool so not to distract his team mates or put his coach in a bad place. That pissed you off? Awesome....Makes total sense to me....I get so pissed off to when a guy doesnt act like an ******* and puts the team's concerns ahead of his....That's so unselfish...we dont need that kind of team player here!
What I'm saying is that he didn't had a winner's attitude.
I think it's way more a question of how he is as a person. Type of person who will never be too high, and never be too low. Let just say that he would have the perfect personnality to be a goalie.
But it's not because he didn't care. It's because that's his personnality. A type of guy who might not be the greatest leader but could be a great complimentary guy and that's what he was for some years.
Great read, I read the blog everyday, its usually quite good, figure I'd share this with the home opener upon us. I don't understand why we would boo Ryder. The guy was pure class and gave it his all as a Hab, untill he was no longer wanted.
