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07-01-2004, 02:25 AM
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Three years ago today...

The Edmonton Oilers trade Doug Weight and Michel Riesen to St. Louis for Marty Reasoner, Jochen Hecht, and Jan Horacek.

Time flies by, doesn't it?

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horacek is toast--but the oilers have Reasoner(inj most of last year) and they have Jarrot Stohl and Jeff Deslauriers, G for the two picks they got for Hecht--I am still happy about the deal

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people should be happy at least we got something for a soon to be UFA player meaning we would have got nothing. Horacek was unfortunate with all his injuries otherwise he was projected to be a good 4th d-man

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rabi's point is a very good one. To understand that trade, one has to understand the sequence of events that led up to it, including the Oilers playoff run at the deadline (making it impossible to deal him), the fact that Roenick's contract raised the bar too high, and that Weight would only go to Detroit or St. Louis.

Considering those factors I think it was a solid deal, but I really like Jochen Hecht alot and imo he had a very fine season in Edmonton. Reasoner's emergence from waiver wire material to solid two way center adds to the payback, and Horacek's injury troubles do not.

Lowe's made some questionable moves in his time in Edmonton, but I don't think this one qualifies.

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People still act as if Hecht is some 4th line toiling for ice time... he's not.

He's a very good 2nd line player... and I think if he didn't give the perception that he didn't want to be here, we'd all be seeing that.

That said, his return was pretty solid.

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People still act as if Hecht is some 4th line toiling for ice time... he's not.

He's a very good 2nd line player... and I think if he didn't give the perception that he didn't want to be here, we'd all be seeing that.

That said, his return was pretty solid.
It wasn't just perception. I remember John Short saying that he had talked to a few players "off the record" and Hecht wasn't happy about coming to Edmonton. He was not surprised when he was dealt.

There were other various rumblings as well.

I remember the very short shifts he would take and his penchant for not hustling on every play. He also played like he didn't want to be here.

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there was also that thing where he went off to Germany and it looked like for a few days that he wasn't even going to come back to play in the NHL. Then there was another rumour that Lowe had wanted Jackman instead of Horacek or something like that.

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I remember that well.

I was sitting in the basement of my old house and someone ICQ'ed me that the Oilers had made that trade. I took it as an offer and I said that the Oilers would never make that trade! Yeah, well they did. You know, I really believe that once his St Lou deal is done, he will be an Oiler again. He just hasn't looked happy in the last three years.

Dougie, I really miss you on the team. I'll never forget that goal against Calgary the night before Grey Cup!

COME BACK!

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one report had Hecht msaying he did not like the pressure playing in Edmonton. A few players have said that they loved Edmonton--but when it comes to hockey it is Edmonton's religion and some even said they were shocked by how my time the city of edmonton spend on the oilers in the middle of July

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I remember that well.

I was sitting in the basement of my old house and someone ICQ'ed me that the Oilers had made that trade. I took it as an offer and I said that the Oilers would never make that trade! Yeah, well they did. You know, I really believe that once his St Lou deal is done, he will be an Oiler again. He just hasn't looked happy in the last three years.

Dougie, I really miss you on the team. I'll never forget that goal against Calgary the night before Grey Cup!

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I have that same thought... oilersfan98 does, too.

As for that goal against Calgary, are you talking about the one where he split the D, turned sideways, and roofed it? That was sweet!

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Dougy, we all miss you. Come Home!

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I have that same thought... oilersfan98 does, too.

As for that goal against Calgary, are you talking about the one where he split the D, turned sideways, and roofed it? That was sweet!
That would be the one. If memory serves, it was the only goal in a 1-0 game.

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That would be the one. If memory serves, it was the only goal in a 1-0 game.
I always thought that game was a 2-2 tie, but I could be wrong...

Didn't that goal happen like 25 seconds into the first period?

I haven't seen it for awhile... do you got a clip of it or...? If you don't, then no biggy. I can always re-install NHL 99 and watch the intro.

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horacek is toast--but the oilers have Reasoner(inj most of last year) and they have Jarrot Stohl and Jeff Deslauriers, G for the two picks they got for Hecht--I am still happy about the deal
That's the most butchered Oiler name I've ever seen.

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That's the most butchered Oiler name I've ever seen.
It is bad...but I think my vote for the most butchered would actually go to "Niimiski".
I can only assume he meant Niinimaki...

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The Euro scouts should be left out---look at their drafting record in the first three rounds in the last couple of years--Hasn't Lowe either fired them all or shot them by now! Reison, Heimrich, Rita, Niimiski!!?!?? all first rounders and all either a bust or well on their way of being busts
Heh

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It is bad...but I think my vote for the most butchered would actually go to "Niimiski".
I can only assume he meant Niinimaki...


Heh
Sounds like Don Cherry.

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