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10-14-2008, 11:37 PM
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The student vote also had a harper minority government lol and i was in both i voted in student and the real feels very weird lol

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10-14-2008, 11:42 PM
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He's safe there, its the heart of conservative interior B.C
A friend, who is a provincial civil servant, ended up in a bar with the Stockman after a long gov't meeting. The bartender pulled the old mongoose in a box routine on him. Everybody pi**ed themselves laughing except Aquaboy who took a long time catching on. Sooprize, sooprize.

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A friend, who is a provincial civil servant, ended up in a bar with the Stockman after a long gov't meeting. The bartender pulled the old mongoose in a box routine on him. Everybody pi**ed themselves laughing except Aquaboy who took a long time catching on. Sooprize, sooprize.
LOL
That would of been priceless.

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Are you for real? Fixed elections for a minority govt? That is impossible. It would mean not allowing the opposition to topple the gov't for four years. Is that what you want? Obviously fixed dates only work with a majority gov't , one that you did your part to deny.
Um...

VICTORIA (CP) - The Conservative government will soon introduce legislation to implement fixed dates for federal elections, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Friday.

Harper told the Victoria Chamber of Commerce his minority government will introduce a bill next week calling for fixed election dates every four years.

Senate reform legislation will also be introduced next week, he said.

But Harper steered away from questions about elected senators, saying it was his government's ambition to have an elected senate, but that will take time.

Harper said the fixed election bill will propose the next election take place in the fall of 2009.

"Fixed election dates prevent governments from calling snap elections for short-term political advantage," he said. "Fixed election dates stop leaders from trying to manipulate the calendar. They level the playing field for all parties. The rules are clear for everybody."


This article was from May 27, 2006.

Yes, Harper proposed fixed election dates even when he was in a Minority government. It's funny how being in power and wielding the ability to call snap elections for political gains suddenly changes one's views.

Nice try, kindablu.

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10-15-2008, 07:13 AM
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Justin Trudeau has been declared the winner in the Montreal riding of Papineau.

He's the one that the Liberals have to put their hopes in down the road.
Justin Trudeau is an idiot. As they say around town, he's got his father's arrogance and his mother's brains.

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10-15-2008, 07:58 AM
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Justin Trudeau is an idiot. As they say around town, he's got his father's arrogance and his mother's brains.
So he'll wear a rose on his lapel and date Mick Jagger

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I guess that as the resident arch-conservative, I must protest the link you have constructed from anti-legalization to conservatism. I am very much in favour of legalization as are most of my pot smoking conservative friends. Libertarians have consistently fought against the use of the Justice system to prohibit acts that are private and not the business of the State. I have a feeling however that you are using conservative in the pejorative in order to bash those you disagree with politically.
Not at all. The reality is that Conservative parties in many cultures have irrationally and unscientifically opposed research into mj's value (or lack of) - it was one of the first things Harper cut. Conservative parties tend strongly to oppose legalization of mj. That was my point and it can be defended historically.

You are right about Libertarians - they are at the forefront of legalizing mj.

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10-15-2008, 08:42 AM
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I provided three articles or so which you chose to ignore.

Yes, we disagree on politics and I feel my opinions are most likely more right wing then yours but....

Good Job on the Prediction Thread and Keep up the good work !
That's the best way to end an argument during which neither of us were going to be convinced by the other. So we'll agree that I can continue smoking marijuana, legally, and you won't start.

Well done!

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Um...

VICTORIA (CP) - The Conservative government will soon introduce legislation to implement fixed dates for federal elections, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Friday.

Harper told the Victoria Chamber of Commerce his minority government will introduce a bill next week calling for fixed election dates every four years.

Senate reform legislation will also be introduced next week, he said.

But Harper steered away from questions about elected senators, saying it was his government's ambition to have an elected senate, but that will take time.

Harper said the fixed election bill will propose the next election take place in the fall of 2009.

"Fixed election dates prevent governments from calling snap elections for short-term political advantage," he said. "Fixed election dates stop leaders from trying to manipulate the calendar. They level the playing field for all parties. The rules are clear for everybody."


This article was from May 27, 2006.

Yes, Harper proposed fixed election dates even when he was in a Minority government. It's funny how being in power and wielding the ability to call snap elections for political gains suddenly changes one's views.

Nice try, kindablu.
Where in that quote does it say anything about minority governemnts? Surely you realize that to live by that proclaimation (in a minority governement) ensures that the opposition is in power not the ruling party. Would it have been OK in your eyes for Dion/et all to topple the governemnt on their agenda?

I will concede that Harper should have stated that in a minority government situation the 4 year rule does not aplly but that was his only mistake here.

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10-15-2008, 03:06 PM
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Where in that quote does it say anything about minority governemnts? Surely you realize that to live by that proclaimation (in a minority governement) ensures that the opposition is in power not the ruling party. Would it have been OK in your eyes for Dion/et all to topple the governemnt on their agenda?

I will concede that Harper should have stated that in a minority government situation the 4 year rule does not aplly but that was his only mistake here.
I agree,but his mistake was assuming that it was self explanatory. I mean, if Harper would have announced that the opposition could not defeat his gov't until 2010 because of this proclamation there would be an uprising..and I would be manning the barricades as well as Wasp.

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Not at all. The reality is that Conservative parties in many cultures have irrationally and unscientifically opposed research into mj's value (or lack of) - it was one of the first things Harper cut. Conservative parties tend strongly to oppose legalization of mj. That was my point and it can be defended historically.

You are right about Libertarians - they are at the forefront of legalizing mj.
You did however, use small c and large C conservative interchangeably and I protest that linkage. Being one of each does not automatically put me( and many others) in the anti legalization camp.

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Conservatives - 140
Liberals - 75
NDP - 45
BQ - 40
Ind - 1
Greens - 7
Actually count ended 143 & 75.

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