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#5 -- Flyers at Sharks -- October 18, 2008 -- 10:30 PM (ET)


Saturday, October 18, 2008 at HP Pavilion at San Jose


PHILADELPHIA FLYERS (0-3-1) vs. SAN JOSE SHARKS (4-1-0)



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Slow Starters
Here are four factors that have contributed to the Flyers' 0-3-1 start:

They are 3 for 26 on the power play (11.5 percent).

Marty Biron has a 5.74 goals-against average and a just-as-dismal .824 save percentage.

They have won just 44 percent of their face-offs, placing them 28th among 30 teams.

The team has been outscored, 6-0, in the first period.

- Sam Carchidi



FLYERS' POSSIBLE LINEUP:
Forwards:
  • 12 Simon Gagne -- 48 Danny Briere -- 22 Mike Knuble
  • 9 Scottie Upshall -- 17 Jeff Carter -- 15 Joffrey Lupul
  • 19 Scott Hartnell -- 18 Mike Richards -- 27 Steve Downie
  • 32 Riley Cote -- 13 Glen Metropolit -- 45 Arron Asham
  • 42 Jared Ross (probable healthy scratch)

Defensemen:
  • 44 Kimmo Timonen -- 23 Ossi Vaananen
  • 5 Braydon Coburn -- 47 Luca Sbisa
  • 26 Steve Eminger -- 41 Andrew Alberts
  • 3 Lasse Kukkonen (possible healthy scratch).

Goalies: Starter not named yet.
  • 30 Antero Nittymaki
  • 43 Martin Biron

FLYERS' INJURIES:
  • 2 Derian Hatcher (right knee damage) is on the long-term Injury List.
  • 6 Randy Jones (right hip surgery) is on the injured list and could miss about two months (from early October).
  • 30 Antero Nittymaki (flu) is questionable.
  • 77 Ryan Parent (shoulder surgery) could miss 12-14 weeks (from early October) and is on the Injured List.
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DENVER - The Flyers received some positive news yesterday: Randy Jones' right-hip injury is not as severe as they had feared. The team said the defenseman would be sidelined for seven to nine weeks instead of the original projection of 12 to 16 weeks.


FLYERS' ROSTER:
Forwards:
  • # Player Height Weight DOB Age
  • 45 Arron Asham 5' 11" 205 Apr 13, 1978 30
  • 48 Danny Briere 5' 10" 179 Oct 6, 1977 31
  • 17 Jeff Carter 6' 3" 200 Jan 1, 1985 23
  • 32 Riley Cote 6' 1" 210 Mar 16, 1982 26
  • 27 Steve Downie 5' 11" 200 Apr 3, 1987 21
  • 12 Simon Gagne "A" 6' 0" 195 Feb 29, 1980 28
  • 19 Scott Hartnell 6' 2" 210 Apr 18, 1982 26
  • 22 Mike Knuble 6' 3" 230 Jul 4, 1972 36
  • 15 Joffrey Lupul 6' 1" 205 Sep 23, 1983 25
  • 13 Glen Metropolit 5' 10" 193 Jun 25, 1974 34
  • 18 Mike Richards "C" 5' 11" 195 Feb 11, 1985 23
  • 42 Jared Ross 5' 9" 165 Sep 18, 1982 26
  • 9 Scottie Upshall 6' 0" 197 Oct 7, 1983 25

Defensemen:
  • # Player Height Weight DOB Age
  • 41 Andrew Alberts 6' 5" 218 Jun 30, 1981 27
  • 5 Braydon Coburn 6' 5" 220 Feb 27, 1985 23
  • 26 Steve Eminger 6' 2" 212 Oct 31, 1983 24
  • 2 Derian Hatcher ** 6' 5" 235 Jun 4, 1972 36
  • 6 Randy Jones ** 6' 2" 200 Jul 23, 1981 27
  • 3 Lasse Kukkonen 6' 1" 190 Sep 18, 1981 27
  • 77 Ryan Parent ** 6' 2" 205 Mar 17, 1987 21
  • 47 Luca Sbisa 6' 2" 190 Jan 30, 1990 18
  • 44 Kimmo Timonen "A" 5' 10" 194 Mar 18, 1975 33
  • 23 Ossi Vaananen 6' 4" 215 Aug 18, 1980 28

Goalies:
  • # Player Height Weight DOB Age
  • 43 Martin Biron 6' 3" 163 Aug 15, 1977 31
  • 30 Antero Niittymaki 6' 1" 215 Jun 18, 1980 28
** INJURED RESERVE




SHARKS' POSSIBLE LINEUP:
Forwards:
  • Marleau - Thornton - Setoguchi
  • Kaspar - Pavelski - Cheechoo
  • Clowe - Roenick - Grier
  • Staubitz - Goc - Shelley

Defensemen:
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic -- Alexei Semenov
  • Brad Lukowich -- Dan Boyle
  • Christian Ehrhoff -- Rob Blake

Goalies:
  • Evgeni Nabokov
  • Brian Boucher (possible starter)


SHARKS' INJURIES:
  • D Douglas Murray has an upper body injury and is questionable.
  • F Torrey Mitchell has a broken leg and is out.
  • F Tomas Plihal has a lower body injury and is questionable.
  • F Milan Michalek has an upper body injury and is questionable.


SHARKS' ROSTER:
Forwards:
  • # Player Height Weight DOB Age Birthplace
  • 14 Jonathan Cheechoo 6' 1" 200 Jul 15, 1980 28 Moose Factory, ON, CAN
  • 29 Ryane Clowe 6' 2" 225 Sep 30, 1982 26 Fermeuse, NL, CAN
  • 11 Marcel Goc 6' 1" 200 Aug 24, 1983 25 Calw, DEU
  • 25 Mike Grier "A" 6' 1" 225 Jan 5, 1975 33 Detroit, MI, USA
  • 43 Lukas Kaspar 6' 2" 225 Sep 23, 1985 23 Most, CZE
  • 12 Patrick Marleau "C" 6' 2" 220 Sep 15, 1979 29 Aneroid, SK, CAN
  • 9 Milan Michalek 6' 2" 225 Dec 7, 1984 23 Jindrichuv Hradec, CZE
  • 17 Torrey Mitchell ** 5' 11" 190 Jan 30, 1985 23 Greenfield Park, QC, CAN
  • 8 Joe Pavelski 5' 11" 195 Jul 11, 1984 24 Stevens Point, WI, USA
  • 39 Tomas Plihal 6' 1" 210 Mar 28, 1983 25 Frydlant, CZE
  • 27 Jeremy Roenick 6' 1" 205 Jan 17, 1970 38 Boston, MA, USA
  • 16 Devin Setoguchi 6' 0" 200 Jan 1, 1987 21 Taber, AB, CAN
  • 45 Jody Shelley 6' 3" 225 Feb 7, 1976 32 Thompson, MB, CAN
  • 59 Brad Staubitz 6' 1" 215 Jul 28, 1984 24 Edmonton, AB, CAN
  • 19 Joe Thornton "A" 6' 4" 235 Jul 2, 1979 29 London, ON, CAN

Defensemen:
  • # Player Height Weight DOB Age Birthplace
  • 4 Rob Blake 6' 4" 225 Dec 10, 1969 38 Simcoe, ON, CAN
  • 22 Dan Boyle 5' 11" 190 Jul 12, 1976 32 Ottawa, ON, CAN
  • 10 Christian Ehrhoff 6' 2" 205 Jul 6, 1982 26 Moers, DEU
  • 37 Brad Lukowich 6' 1" 200 Aug 12, 1976 32 Cranbrook, BC, CAN
  • 3 Douglas Murray 6' 3" 240 Mar 12, 1980 28 Bromma, SWE
  • 21 Alexei Semenov 6' 6" 245 Apr 10, 1981 27 Murmansk, RUS
  • 44 Marc-Edouard Vlasic 6' 1" 200 Mar 30, 1987 21 Montreal, QC, CAN

Goalies:
  • # Player Height Weight DOB Age Birthplace
  • 33 Brian Boucher 6' 2" 200 Jan 2, 1977 31 Woonsocket, RI, USA
  • 20 Evgeni Nabokov 6' 0" 200 Jul 25, 1975 33 Kamenogorsk, KAZ
** INJURED RESERVE


FLYERS vs. SHARKS -- SERIES' HISTORY:
Current and Miscellaneous:
  • The Flyers are 13-8-4 (ties)-0 (OTL) all-time in regular season play
  • The Flyers currently have a winless skid of seven games (0-5-2).
  • The Flyers last won in this series December 21, 2000, a 4-3 victory in Philadelphia.
  • The Flyers are 6-4-2-0 at home.
  • The Flyers are 7-4-2-0 at San Jose, last winning November 5, 1999, 3-1.


1991-1995:
  • 1991 -- October 31 -- The teams met for the first time and the Flyers prevailed 5-2. Rick Tocchet (2-0-2) and Mike Ricci (1-2-3) led the offense. Tocchet picked up an extra minor in a fight with Neil Wilkinson late in the game but Ricci netted a SHG with Ron Hextall picking up an assist. Hextall made 25 saves including 15-for-15 in the last period. Tocchet had the first goal scored in this series while Link Gaetz had the first Sharks' goal against the Flyers.
  • 1992 -- January 3 -- In the initial meeting between the teams at San Jose, Dale Craigwell snapped a 1-1 third period tie in the Sharks 3-1 victory. The PPG came on a 5-minute major to Rod Brind'Amour for high-sticking and he was also ejected. Kelly Kisio added an ENG. Goalies: Ron Hextall vs. Jeff Hackett. The game was played at the San Francisco Cow Palace.
  • 1992 -- March 1 -- Mark Freer scored in the first period and Ron Hextall stopped 30 shots in a 1-0 shutout in the Cow Palace. Jeff Hackett made 32 saves in the loss. The Flyers had eleven shots in each period.
  • 1992 -- December 30 -- Mark Recchi had three points (2-1-3) and the Flyers cruised to a 6-2 win backed by Tommy Soderstrom's 33 saves. The game was played before a sellout crowd of 11,089 in the Cow Palace.
  • 1993 -- March 25 -- Mark Recchi had three points (2-1-3) and the Flyers rolled to a 5-2 win in Philadelphia. The Flyers held a 22-6 shot advantage after 40 minutes. Eric Lindros got in two third period fights, one against Doug Zmolek and the other against Rob Zettler.
  • 1994 -- February 3 -- Sergei Makarov's goal in OT on the Sharks' first shot gave San Jose a 3-2 win. The Flyers led 2-0 after one period and carried that lead until Pat Falloon scored midway in the second period and then Rob Gaudreau added a PPG less than a minute later to even the game. Arturs Irbe made 32 saves for the Sharks. It was the first meeting between the teams in the new San Jose Arena.
  • 1994 -- February 15 -- Mikael Renberg had a natural hat trick in the third period and the Flyers rallied for a 6-4 win in San Jose. The Flyers trailed 4-3 after 40 minutes before Renberg took over the game. Renberg (3-1-4) had four points , Eric Lindros had three (1-2-3) points and Bob Wilkie had two of his four Flyers' career points in this game. Dominic Roussel played 35:40 and was 19-for-19 in relief of Tommy Soderstrom who surrendered four goals on nine shots and was replaced early in the second period. The Flyers scored six times on 19 shots off Arturs Irbe. The teams combined to go 0-for-17 on the PP; the Flyers killed all 10 San Jose PPs.
  • 1995 -- November 16 -- Pat Falloon was traded to Philadelphia by San Jose for Martin Spanhel, Philadelphia's 1st round choice (later traded to Buffalo - later traded to Phoenix - Phoenix selected Daniel Briere) in 1996 Entry Draft and Philadelphia's 4th round choice (later traded to Buffalo - Buffalo selected Mike Martone), in 1996 Entry Draft.

1996-1999:
  • 1996 -- January 3 -- Ron Hextall stopped 30 shots in a 3-1 win played in San Jose. Yanick Dupre scored the first of two goals in his NHL career which lasted just 35 games; he passed away in 1997 with leukemia. San Jose outshot Philly 31-19 and the lone Sharks' goal was by Marcus Ragnarsson on a PP.
  • 1996 -- March 17 -- The Flyers mauled the Sharks 8-2 in the Spectrum. The winners were paced by John LeClair (3-1-4), Eric Lindros (0-4-4) and Pat Falloon (2-0-2); vererans Joel Otto and Dale Hawerchuk added three points apiece. Goalie Geoff Sarjeant gave up eight goals on 24 shots.
  • 1996 -- November 16 -- The teams skated to a 2-2 tie in a game played in the Flyers' new building. John LeClair scored twice in the first to give the Flyers a 2-0 lead. The Flyers had a 2-0 lead after two periods and a 25-15 shots advantage. San Jose scored twice in the third period, including Greg Hawgood's PPG with under three minutes to play, and then held a 5-1 shots edge in OT.
  • 1997 -- January 2 -- Ron Hextall made 26 saves and the Flyers beat nemesis (just seven wins in 30 meetings) Chris Terreri, 4-1 in San Jose. Daniel Lacroix and Eric Lindros gave the Flyers a 2-0 lead in the first period.
  • 1997 -- October 13 -- Garth Snow was fabulous with 43 saves and Eric Lindros scored the GWG with the first shot in OT leading the Flyers to a 3-2 road win. Snow was at his best when he made 24 saves on 25 shots in the second period. The Sharks held a 45-24 shots advantage. Shawn Burr scored both San Jose goals; he had six in 60 regular season games in his Sharks' career.
  • 1997 -- November 20 -- San Jose beat the Flyers 3-0 in Philadelphia as Mike Vernon had 28 saves and improved his record to 18-5-3 against the Flyers (regular season and POs combined). The Sharks had just 12 shots on goal and were outshot 10-1 in the third period. Eric Lindros, who earlier fought Todd Gill, was in a brief fray with Marty McSorley; the NHL investigated, but negated, chatter that Lindros bit McSorley's ear.
  • 1998 -- October 20 -- The Flyers dominated the third period (14-3 in shots, 2-0 in goals) to snap a 1-1 tie in the 3-1 home victory. Colin Forbes scored the game-winner and Eric Lindros added an insurance tally in the final period. Philly outshot San Jose 37-18, JVB vs. Mike Vernon.
  • 1998 -- December 28 -- Eric Lindros and Joe Murphy swapped second period goals and each team had 23 shots in a 1-1 tie. The Flyers outshot the home Sharks 6-1 in overtime. JVB and Mike Vernon each made 22 saves.
  • 1999 -- November 5 -- The Flyers dominated the Sharks in a 3-1 win in San Jose. Philly out-shot San Jose 32-16 and were 1:26 away from a JVB shutout. John LeClair, Eric Lindros (two points) and Daymond Langkow (two points) each scored and Mark Recchi added two assists.
  • 1999 -- November 13 -- Mikael Renberg scored he GWG on the PP with under five to play in the second period and the Flyers won at home 3-2. Daymond Langkow and John LeClair gave Philly a 2-0 lead.


2000s:
  • 2000 -- December 21 -- The Flyers scored three PPGs, including a pair by Rick Tocchet, en route to a 4-3 home win. Daymond Langkow had three points. Evgeni Nabokov was replaced early in the second period, down 3-1, by Steve Shields who stopped all but one of 24 shots.
  • 2002 -- January 2 -- San Jose scored three third period goals to snap a 2-2 tie and won 5-2 in the newly named Compaq Center. The Sharks held a 36-24 shots advantage, including 12-4 in the final period. Bryan Marchment leveled Donald Brashear with an open ice hit and the two later fought. Marchment also lost a fight to Todd Fedoruk.
  • 2002 -- November 21 -- Jeremy Roenick's PPG with 7:29 to play gave the Flyers a 2-2 tie in Philly. It was their fourth tie in their last five games. Roenick's PPG snapped an 0-for-32 skid with the man advantage for the Flyers. Robert Esche, 27 saves, was brilliant throughout the game and twice stopped Teemu Selanne on breakaways. Afterwards, Selanne said "I think last year I missed two breakaways all season.'' One of his breakaways came on a 2-on-0 moments after Selanne gave the Sharks a 1-0 lead.
  • 2002 -- December 6 -- Marcus Ragnarsson was acquired from San Jose for Dan McGillis.
  • 2002 -- December 30 -- Jonathan Cheechoo scored in the third period and the Sharks won 2-1 in the HP Pavilion at San Jose. Evgeni Nabokov made 24 saves in the win. John LeClair and Simon Gagne did not play due to injuries. Bryan Marchment leveled Donald Brashear with an open-ice hit.
  • 2003 -- October 16 -- Jeff Hackett (27 saves) and Evgeni Nabokov (26 saves) dueled to a scoreless tie in the HP Pavilion. It was Hackett's second shutout in his first three starts for his Flyers. The shutout was Hackett's 25th of his career, the 18th for Nabokov. Each team failed to score on lengthy 5-on-3's. In OT, the Sharks nearly scored but a goal judge reviewed and rejected the possible goal.
  • 2004 -- February 16 -- Scott Thornton and Jonathan Cheechoo each had three points in San Jose's 5-2 win in Philly. The Sharks took just 20 shots, one game after taking a club-record 50 shots in a 2-1 OT win at Columbus. Jeremy Roenick and Keith Primeau were out of the Flyers' lineup. There were just five minors called in the game for a total of 10 PIMs.
  • 2006 -- November 18 -- The Sharks scored three goals in the first and second periods and won 6-1 at home. SJ held a 25-18 shots advantage. Twelve Sharks registered points and no player getting more than two points. Robert Esche was replaced midway in the contest after surrendering six goals on 18 shots.
  • 2008 -- February 21 -- San Jose recorded a 3-1 win in Philly. Mike Knuble scored with six seconds left in the second period but Milan Michalek and Doug Murray scored 42 seconds apart in the third period to negate any momentum. The Flyers lost for the ninth straight time (0-8-1) and also extended their skid in this series to seven game (0-5-2). The Flyers honored Sharks' center Jeremy Roenick for his 500th career goal (against Phoenix, third American to score that total joining Mike Modano and Joey Mullen). Philly's GM Paul Holmgren presented him with a Tiffany crystal.




FLYERS' UPCOMING SCHEDULE:
All Times are Eastern Time.
http://ww.flyershistory.net/cgi-bin/games.cgi?2008-09
  • 22-Oct-08 San Jose Sharks @ Flyers 7:00
  • 24-Oct-08 Flyers @ New Jersey Devils 7:00
  • 25-Oct-08 New Jersey Devils @ Flyers 4:00 (moved from 7:00 PM)
  • 28-Oct-08 Flyers @ Atlanta Thrashers 7:00
  • 30-Oct-08 New York Islanders @ Flyers 7:00
  • 2-Nov-08 Edmonton Oilers @ Flyers 1:00
  • 6-Nov-08 Flyers @ Ottawa Senators 7:30
  • 8-Nov-08 Tampa Bay Lightning @ Flyers 7:00
  • 11-Nov-08 Flyers @ New York Islanders 2:00
  • 13-Nov-08 Flyers @ Pittsburgh Penguins 7:30

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The Philadelphia Flyers announced that the starting time for their game against the New Jersey Devils at the Wachovia Center on Saturday, October 25, has been changed to 4:00 p.m. Eastern. The game will still be televised by Comcast SportsNet and broadcast on SportsRadio 610 WIP (610-AM).

"We felt that changing the starting time to 4:00 p.m. benefits our fans," said Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren. "The 4:00 p.m. starting time should alleviate some of the congestion in the sports complex area and gives our fans the opportunity to view Game 3 of the World Series."

The original starting time of 7:00 p.m. for the game was changed to 4:00 p.m. to avoid a conflict with Game 3 of the 2008 World Series. This is the second time that the Flyers have changed a game to avoid a conflict with a World Series game. The Flyers-New York Islanders game at the Spectrum on October 21, 1993 was moved to October 22 to avoid a conflict with Game Five of the 1993 World Series.
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the Sharks just got spanked tonite by Anaheim 4-0.
looking forward to the kind of mood they should be in

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The ever faithful, fanatical and fantastic GDT!


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another beautiful music choice MSE

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Hartnell- Richards - Downie line returns!!

That was my favorite line from last year.

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Hartnell- Richards - Downie line returns!!

That was my favorite line from last year.
Love it! Why the heck not!!

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If they stand around like a bunch of idiots again they will get smoked obviously. I don't blame Biron for much except the 1st period in New York. This team is just playing lazy hockey.

I don't understand why the forwards are always too far up ice offensively and way behind the play on defense. This team is going to need very good defensive play from the forwards to stay above 500 until some blueline help comes back.

Yeah and how about scoring a ****ing power play goal????

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Knuble sucks so bad, he gets moved up to the first line

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the Sharks just got spanked tonite by Anaheim 4-0.
looking forward to the kind of mood they should be in
Spanked???? Ducks got really lucky while Giguere was incredible!!!

Giguere was better then Toskala who gave up zero goals against NYR, thats how good he was.


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Excellent musical choice, MSE. Maybe Zep will bring us a win.

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Here was the last GWG we had in San Jose:

2 - PHI : Daymond Langkow 2 (Dan McGillis, Valeri Zelepukin) (PP) 10:13

Some other Flyers in that game:

2 - Adam Burt
11 - Jody Hull
14 - Mikael Andersson
21 - Sandy McCarthy
28 - Marc Bureau
32 - Craig Berube
55 - Ulf Samuelsson
88 - Eric Lindros

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This is a big one , no matter what the end result is.

Go Flyers !

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Knuble promoted

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Excellent GDT- hopefully it will be a good game.

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* Marc-Edouard Vlasic -- Alexei Semenov
* Brad Lukowich -- Dan Boyle
* Christian Ehrhoff -- Marc-Edouard Vlasic
As much as we love Pickles though, I suspect he won't be double shifted on D. I'd expect to see Rob Blake in there somewhere

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Excellent GDT- hopefully it will be a good game.



As much as we love Pickles though, I suspect he won't be double shifted on D. I'd expect to see Rob Blake in there somewhere
Got it. I changed the pairings as I watched the third period last night and made a boo boo.

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I'd like to point out Vlasic came into the league when he was 18, and he's now in his third season. Or so the guys on the Score will have me beleive

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Knuble promoted
Yep - I think he's earned it, don't you?


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As much as we love Pickles though, I suspect he won't be double shifted on D. I'd expect to see Rob Blake in there somewhere
Great nickname! I love it!

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Unfortunately I dont think they will break the losing streak tonight.

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Sharks lost to the Ducks last night 4-0, so they're gonna be pretty pissed off.

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Yep - I think he's earned it, don't you?
Yes, he's been a 30 goal scorer every year he's been in Philly. Besides, they basically returned to the lines that worked well last season with their 3 centers all playing center.

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Sharks lost to the Ducks last night 4-0, so they're gonna be pretty pissed off.
we are 0-3-1... I hope we are pretty pissed off as well!



Something has to happen today!

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