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10-19-2008, 07:44 AM
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not a good fit .I think our D is solid and with whats coming we dont need Bouwmeester. We need to resign Komo and let the young guys play a role


You add another guy who will score 50 goals in MONTREAL id say the result will be the same
There is nothing wrong with having him as a rental , especially with all those young defensemen coming through.

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10-19-2008, 09:24 AM
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There is nothing wrong with having him as a rental , especially with all those young defensemen coming through.

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10-19-2008, 09:29 AM
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Seems like Gaborik is still injured.. You can't trade for an injured player.. So IF it happens, not so soon I guess.

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10-19-2008, 09:38 AM
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listen i said Bow doesnt fit Montreal and i say that for a few reasons . 1 his salary we wont be able to fit .
He makes less than Gaborik this year! It's not an issue.

Like others have said, Jay Bo would be purely a rental so we wouldn't have to worry about fitting him long-term.

Add me to the group who would MUCH rather get Jay Bo to give us a sick top 4 on defence.

Dood, that's simply not true. Remember, Theodore was dealt while on IR.

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10-19-2008, 10:05 AM
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He makes less than Gaborik this year! It's not an issue.

Like others have said, Jay Bo would be purely a rental so we wouldn't have to worry about fitting him long-term.

Add me to the group who would MUCH rather get Jay Bo to give us a sick top 4 on defence.

Dood, that's simply not true. Remember, Theodore was dealt while on IR.
+1 for Jay Bo.

Our top 4 would be the best in the NHL.

This is one rental I would live with.

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10-19-2008, 10:17 AM
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I really don't want to lose Halak

when the rumors were Higgins and McDonaugh, I felt that was reasonable

But Halak? No way should we trade him, we should keep him for as long as possible. He can play just as good as Price (I think so, but I guess it's debatable. Either way, he's almost as good as him), he can save games and is the perfect backup because he is pretty cheap as well.

I'd rather have Halak in nets than some journeyman goalie that has yet to make it

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10-19-2008, 10:22 AM
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He makes less than Gaborik this year! It's not an issue.

Like others have said, Jay Bo would be purely a rental so we wouldn't have to worry about fitting him long-term.
Add me to the group who would MUCH rather get Jay Bo to give us a sick top 4 on defence.

Dood, that's simply not true. Remember, Theodore was dealt while on IR.
What would it cost for a JayBo rental? Or rather, what would you be willing to give up?

Personally, I think our defense is rather underrated...I know there's a need for a legit #4 dman and if the opportunity presents itself for the Habs to improve there, great, however I think if you go around the league and look at other teams top 6 defensman or even #4 defensman, you'll notice that we're not doing too bad in that area. The Habs DO have a very strong top 3 though, I don't think a guy like Markov gets enough due still, he's a stud defensman and right now there aren't too many players playing his position who are playing better.

Gorges, Bouillon, O'Byrne and Brisebois...there's not a # 4 dman there, but all of them together aren't so bad IMO, they could be doing worse.

More than anything, I think what makes the Habs so successful is their chemistry and familiarity with themselves, alot of these guys have played together in Hamilton or Montreal for a while now, Gainey is going to have to be very careful if he wants to tinker with that chemistry...

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10-19-2008, 11:05 AM
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You guys better be thinking of a 3rd player because even with the trade of Halak and Higgins and a pick, we would be over the cap with Gaborik's 6.3mil.

Gaborik is a high quality fragile player, I don't think a trade will happen, but we haven't been struggling without Higgins or Halak so I'm not complaining either.

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10-19-2008, 11:11 AM
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If the Minny scouts are watching the games closely, how can it be because of Halak and Higgins when both aren't playing? This is just pure speculation.

Gaborik doesn't fill a hole, he would just be a nice to have. If we could package prospects for him and fit him under the cap then it might be a reasonable move. But it would bump one of Higgins, Lats or Sergei Kost on the 4th line which would be horrible. It wouldn't be wise for the cap and would add another UFA at the end of the year.

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Seems like Gaborik is still injured.. You can't trade for an injured player.. So IF it happens, not so soon I guess.
why can't you trade an injured player? Of course you can trade a player ever if he's injured, there's no rule about that. Theo was traded with a broken foot!

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10-19-2008, 11:21 AM
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Jaybo is Not being shopped at all.

The deal is for Gaborik.

The latest as per RDS is the wild want Higgins Halak and a 1st.
AS much as I love Higgins and I really do, he has a CH on his heart.
Last year we could not give Halak away and a 1st for MTL is a 28th pick. SO if this deal is for a deal that signs Gaborik for at least 5 years at a 7.5 rate or so, then you can not pass this up.
We keep McDo, FIsher,Weber,Suban,Pac,Maxwell and all the rest.

It would be hard to lose Higgins, he loves the Habs and would throw himself in front of a bus to stay here, A signed Gaborik is a better overall option for the Habs but If ever Higgins wants back into the Habs fold I would move a ton to get him back one day.
it's an idiot's trade and Gainey shouldn't deal a higgins for precisely those reasons. since BG's committed to team chemistry and team building and city / fan's expectations. further you're wrong about halak...gainey mentioned there were lots of inquiries about him at the deadline and he said 'no'. lastly signing gaborik when other cornerstones like komi, kovy and koivu are not signed is idiotic prioritizing and wouldn't reflect well within the pecking order of the dressing room. and McD might end up being something very special...another shaft

this team doesn't need more goals

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10-19-2008, 12:07 PM
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The only reason Halak is starting on Monday and it has been confirmed by RDS is he is being shown to Blair M. There is only 1 game this week and Price is #1, he played a great game last night. Halak is as good as gone.

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10-19-2008, 12:09 PM
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The only reason Halak is starting on Monday and it has been confirmed by RDS is he is being shown to Blair M. There is only 1 game this week and Price is #1, he played a great game last night. Halak is as good as gone.
You are reading too much into it IMO. Carbonneau said before the season started he wanted to keep Halak sharp...

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10-19-2008, 12:14 PM
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Maybe you are right, but when there is smoke...just saying.

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10-19-2008, 12:16 PM
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I think this speculation is pointless, We don't need more offense, your telling me 3 Offensive lines that contribute to the point sheet almost every night isn't enough? Pretty sure Detroit is in the same boat with those offensive lines. We have a great team, lets not get greedy and trade quality players for a rental who might shatter into a thousand pieces by his 2nd Home game with us.

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Let's say we get the guy, being injured, his salary does not count, gives Bob the time to free up money.. Yeah, he might not even be injured actually, part of the plot

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You are reading too much into it IMO. Carbonneau said before the season started he wanted to keep Halak sharp...
I remeber it too...

There won't be a trade, not until deadline. It's way too early for a team as efficient as ours at this moment to be talking about trades, for any position, unless we get a steal, but still.

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He makes less than Gaborik this year! It's not an issue.

Like others have said, Jay Bo would be purely a rental so we wouldn't have to worry about fitting him long-term.

Add me to the group who would MUCH rather get Jay Bo to give us a sick top 4 on defence.

Dood, that's simply not true. Remember, Theodore was dealt while on IR.
Depending obviously on what we'd have to give up to have Jay Bo as a rental, I'm all for that.

I don't why people keep going on about adding to our offense; our offense is fine, and it has insane depth.

What we're lacking is a legit top 4 D. I mean yeah, adding a star forward would be nice, but it's much less of a need than bolstering our D corps...Which is still pretty solid in itself.

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10-19-2008, 12:55 PM
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I think this speculation is pointless, We don't need more offense, your telling me 3 Offensive lines that contribute to the point sheet almost every night isn't enough? Pretty sure Detroit is in the same boat with those offensive lines. We have a great team, lets not get greedy and trade quality players for a rental who might shatter into a thousand pieces by his 2nd Home game with us.
Agreed...not to mention the cap issues...

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And his career highl is "only" 42 goals, playing like 25 minutes per game,
Marian Gaborik
2007-2008 MIN 77 42 41 83 -- 19:37 ATOI

He has never averaged over 20 minutes a game.

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Ottawa Sun claims Gaborik wants 10 years at 10 mil per season or $100 million.

Habs would be nuts in fact all teams would be nuts.
If any team caves in to that kind of money then that team will NEVER win a cup.

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Ottawa Sun claims Gaborik wants 10 years at 10 mil per season or $100 million.

Habs would be nuts in fact all teams would be nuts.
If any team caves in to that kind of money then that team will NEVER win a cup.
Yeah right


If true, put a fork in it..


That's Ovechkin type o' money

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Ottawa Sun claims Gaborik wants 10 years at 10 mil per season or $100 million.

Habs would be nuts in fact all teams would be nuts.
If any team caves in to that kind of money then that team will NEVER win a cup.
If this is true, no one will want this guy...he wants more money than Crosby, Ovy, Vinny...

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