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10-21-2008, 12:01 PM
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Krog would have to go through re-entry waivers as well, and not be available for 24 hours.
I was under the impression he doesn't.

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10-21-2008, 12:02 PM
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I don't think Gillis is that stupid there is probably something up his sleeve. (I hope)
Pettinger was equipped with a BOMB. We are going to explode Tampa Bay.

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10-21-2008, 12:02 PM
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Krog would have to go through re-entry waivers as well, and not be available for 24 hours.
No he doesn't, as he falls under the AHL veteran exemption. He hasn't played enough in the NHL recently to have to go through re-entry waivers.

Here's an article from today that mentions it:

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The Canucks could also fly in Jason Krog or Michael Grabner, who don't need to clear waivers.
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...2-9cb530e1252b

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10-21-2008, 12:03 PM
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But yeah, losing Pettinger does suck.

The PK has been absolutely atrocious, and that's one area that he definitely helped.

Maybe Krog can help with that role?

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I think the Gillis first mistake was Wellwood--but I just don't like getting leafs toss off

My bigger issue is Gillis' keeping such a large part of the cap hoping that sundin will come to vancouver. Or he is hiding the fact that the new owner wants to keep that far away from the cap.

Can not put my finger on it---but I donot trut the new owner

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10-21-2008, 12:03 PM
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Tampa (Neil Broughton, was interviewed and had as "much" experience as Gillis as a GM) a, who's-the-GM-now pick-up of Pettinger

I dunno... probably a stretch but... it's not doing much to dispel the sentiment out there that Gillis isn't that well liked.

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At least Gillis was able to work out a deal with Tampa before this waiver pick up. Wonder why Pettinger wasn't part of that deal before instead of Simek?

They had to know Matt was going to be coveted by Len Barrie as they are investment partners.

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10-21-2008, 12:04 PM
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No he doesn't, as he falls under the AHL veteran exemption. He hasn't played enough in the NHL recently to have to go through re-entry waivers.
Isn't that the same rule that Wellwood was exempt to?

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10-21-2008, 12:06 PM
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Isn't that the same rule that Wellwood was exempt to?
People thought Wellwood was, but he wasn't.

This is what it says:

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#2 [re-entry waivers] above does not apply to a player who

1. If a goalie, the goalie has played in 180 or more professional games [NHL, AHL, or ECHL; regular season and playoffs] or, if a skater, 320 or more professional games; AND
2. Has not spent more than 80 games on an NHL roster in the prior 2 seasons or 40 or more games on an NHL roster in the immediately prior season.
Krog definitely did not spend either 80 games over the last two seasons or 40 games last season on an NHL roster. Wellwood did.

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10-21-2008, 12:08 PM
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At least Gillis was able to work out a deal with Tampa before this waiver pick up. Wonder why Pettinger wasn't part of that deal before instead of Simek?

They had to know Matt was going to be coveted by Len Barrie as they are investment partners.
Very very interesting.

Maybe he was part of the deal, wink wink style.

The only way for the Canucks to eat half of the salary is to bring him back on re-entry waivers. Knowing that Tampa Bay is going to be near the top of picking order, there could have been an understanding that Vancouver would expose him on the first available opportunity.

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Very very interesting.

Maybe he was part of the deal, wink wink style.

The only way for the Canucks to eat half of the salary is to bring him back on re-entry waivers. Knowing that Tampa Bay is going to be near the top of picking order, there could have been an understanding that Vancouver would expose him on the first available opportunity.
Well if Gillis knew that Brown would get claimed, he had to know that Matt would get claimed. I think most GMs know what will happen when a player goes on waivers.

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At least Gillis was able to work out a deal with Tampa before this waiver pick up. Wonder why Pettinger wasn't part of that deal before instead of Simek?

They had to know Matt was going to be coveted by Len Barrie as they are investment partners.
That would be signs of a GREAT GM - forward thinking. Missed opportunity there by Gillis. Such is the curse of being a CanuckFan.

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Davison can play forward as well. If Rypien isn't ready to go you'll likely see him lineup with Brown and Johnson.
Considering the last I heard Rypien was in Vancouver I think it's highly unlikely he'll play tonight.

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Anyone notice any other teams losing players off waivers? Anyone think that other GM's might have it in for the Aquilini's / Gillis?

Anaheim (Burke / Nonis) an in-your-face pick-up of McIver
Tampa (Neil Broughton, was interviewed and had as "much" experience as Gillis as a GM) a, who's-the-GM-now pick-up of Pettinger
I highly doubt that teams are plucking players off waivers because they want to screw over the Canucks. Obviously with McIver, Anaheim was desperate for cheap defensive depth and Nonis was familiar with McIver as a player.

Just in the past couple weeks, Tampa lost Koci, Detroit lost Quincey, Dallas lost Janik (then re-acquired him), Anaheim lost Lindstrom (then re-acquired him), the Rangers lost Pock, the Bruins lost Thompson, etc. It's not like the Canucks are getting singled out.

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The lose of Pettinger is not that great and the nucks have people to replace him

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Because Matt Cooke was oh so valuable. Washington lost him for nothing too, you know.
Washington lost him because he was entering unrestricted free agency. Clearly Tampa wanted him, he's got personal connections there. Why not throw him into the Krajicek deal and at least get a pick for him? Instead not only do we lose him for nothing, but we also get to pay half his salary.

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Well if Gillis knew that Brown would get claimed, he had to know that Matt would get claimed. I think most GMs know what will happen when a player goes on waivers.
Exactly, which is what makes it all a little bit fishy, to me.

It comes down to either:
1. Aquilinis didn't want to pay his full salary
2. Gillis had an handshake agreement to expose him to re-entry waivers as part of a previous deal.

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I highly doubt that teams are plucking players off waivers because they want to screw over the Canucks. Obviously with McIver, Anaheim was desperate for cheap defensive depth and Nonis was familiar with McIver as a player.

Just in the past couple weeks, Tampa lost Koci, Detroit lost Quincey, Dallas lost Janik (then re-acquired him), Anaheim lost Lindstrom (then re-acquired him), the Rangers lost Pock, the Bruins lost Thompson, etc. It's not like the Canucks are getting singled out.
You mean the world isn't against the Canucks?

Yeah sure, next thing you'll tell me is that the refs are fair every game and don't pick on the nucks.

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Exactly, which is what makes it all a little bit fishy, to me.

It comes down to either:
1. Aquilinis didn't want to pay his full salary
2. Gillis had an handshake agreement to expose him to re-entry waivers as part of a previous deal.
Two doesn't make any sense because he would have to wait for injuries to call him up. What if the team had stayed healthy for the first half of the year or more?

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10-21-2008, 12:19 PM
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Two doesn't make any sense because he would have to wait for injuries to call him up. What if the team had stayed healthy for the first half of the year or more?
what's the odds of that happening?

maybe 1 in 50? 1 in 100?

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Exactly, which is what makes it all a little bit fishy, to me.

It comes down to either:
1. Aquilinis didn't want to pay his full salary
2. Gillis had an handshake agreement to expose him to re-entry waivers as part of a previous deal.
Probably this.

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Exactly, which is what makes it all a little bit fishy, to me.

It comes down to either:
1. Aquilinis didn't want to pay his full salary
2. Gillis had an handshake agreement to expose him to re-entry waivers as part of a previous deal.
My guess in #1. Else Gillis could've just brought up Krog and Bolduc.

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You mean the world isn't against the Canucks?

Yeah sure, next thing you'll tell me is that the refs are fair every game and don't pick on the nucks.
and that Burrows won't be on the Olympic team.

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what's the odds of that happening?

maybe 1 in 50? 1 in 100?
There's still a chance, it just seems odd to base a secret deal on your own team getting injured, no?

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and that Burrows won't be on the Olympic team.
Now you're going crazy.

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Probably this.
But then why take on Ouellet and pay him even more to play in the AHL?

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