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10-22-2008, 01:56 PM
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No, I don't think it would work. You know the old cliche: Montrealers aren't hockey fans, they're Habs fans.
Exactly. Another team would just die. Junior teams have all died in the area. Yeah they keep trying to bring one back, but with the same result. AHL team, if too close dies also.

As for Toronto. Well those people see NHL teams in Montreal, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver and they wonder why they can't have one too. They are after all the center of the universe and they don't even have an NHL team. Haven't had one in 41 years (42 this year). And the league has expanded from 6 to 30 teams in that time and there were numerous teams that moved here and there.

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10-22-2008, 02:03 PM
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Why not?

I could then finally stop cheering for the underachieving Habs.

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10-22-2008, 02:03 PM
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Montreal Nord Rioters. They would know how to win in style.

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10-22-2008, 02:05 PM
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Why not?

I could then finally stop cheering for the underachieving Habs.
Meaning you will be moving to the new board...

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I'd go just to get all this pent up booing out of me.

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The hardcore fans' hatred for the second team would make the Habs - Nordiques rivalry look like a love-in. If the two teams ever faced each other in the playoffs, the city would burn.
It would be a total carnage, civil war !!!

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10-22-2008, 02:51 PM
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The Toronto rumors of having 2 NHL teams made me think about it. The population is lower than Toronto i know but the Bell Centre is always full...

Maybe a team near downtown like Laval ?
Maroons, Wanderers....

Didn't work then, wouldn't work now.

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10-22-2008, 03:36 PM
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What about building an arena?
Montreal hasn't build the Molson Center.

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10-22-2008, 04:17 PM
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I hope we don't. I hope we just have the Habs, thats it.

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10-22-2008, 04:23 PM
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remember Montreal did have two teams. well no one here remembers but you get the point. i do think montreal could support a second team. laval could because it has an off island population of 1 million - as does the south shore. a place where it could work might be the west island. there's a huge fan base there and lots of money. put them in DDO and buy back the rights to the maroons. Tada! instant history and a cup or two

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10-22-2008, 04:24 PM
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Quebec city would make more sense. It's close enough to draw Montrealers too (especially if they go back to the blue vs. red thing).

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10-22-2008, 04:34 PM
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10-22-2008, 04:38 PM
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Montreal got their second team a decade ago. They are called the Ottawa Senators. It is just as close as Kitchener or Hamilton is to TO.

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Hey Lone Rogue....

Saskatchewan??
Lethbridge...

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10-22-2008, 04:41 PM
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Bring back the Maroons/Wanderers and pop 'em in Blue Bonnets. I'd root for them over the Habs.

Maroons won a couple of Stanley Cups, they're unfairly overlooked when it comes to Montreal hockey history. The Forum was their rink, the Habs had the lousy unheated place at Mount Royal and St. Urbain..

The Maroons had some great players - I spoke to Babe Siebert's niece just last week, he was remembered far and wide.

They'd still be around today if it weren't for the Great Depression.

Also..in a sorta related question...didja know that the Habs had the only undefeated coach in NHL history? Anybody know who I'm talking about?

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10-22-2008, 06:00 PM
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Bring back the Maroons/Wanderers and pop 'em in Blue Bonnets. I'd root for them over the Habs.

Maroons won a couple of Stanley Cups, they're unfairly overlooked when it comes to Montreal hockey history. The Forum was their rink, the Habs had the lousy unheated place at Mount Royal and St. Urbain..

The Maroons had some great players - I spoke to Babe Siebert's niece just last week, he was remembered far and wide.

They'd still be around today if it weren't for the Great Depression.

Also..in a sorta related question...didja know that the Habs had the only undefeated coach in NHL history? Anybody know who I'm talking about?
you know that's not a bad area at all. they were thinking of building the expos stadium there. problem is it's a pretty poor are, not a lot of disposable income - actually I'm wrong, ville st laurent, NDG and hampstead are extremely close by.

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The Toronto rumors of having 2 NHL teams made me think about it. The population is lower than Toronto i know but the Bell Centre is always full...

Maybe a team near downtown like Laval ?
finally it was said that Toronto can't have two teams , because they don't have enough golf clubs in the area ...

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10-22-2008, 07:49 PM
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A bigger question (like that one with regards to TO), is that say Montreal does get a 2nd team and calls them the Montreal Maroons for example, whats the percentage of fans that will stop being habs fans and turn to being Maroons fans?

I dont think it will be that high since the Canadiens are such a storied franchise.

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10-22-2008, 09:48 PM
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Wonderful. But the money isn't there.

lol Accoring to whom?

I'm not saying a second team in Montreal could exist. But it's a big, powerful city with plenty of capital.

But just to set things straight: there's not more people in Laval than in Quebec city.

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Strange thing, I came up with a name for a team in Quebec in a fantasy game in a scenario where Quebec would have had a team in the NHL since the 40s and the name I chose was "Quebec City Saints".


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10-22-2008, 10:06 PM
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ok,i think montreal could definitely support a second team... but it would just not work... habs fans are too hardcore to just turn around and switch teams

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10-22-2008, 10:41 PM
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Although not impossible, I think that it would be difficult for Montreal.

Some of the main reasons why it makes sense for Toronto are that:

1. There are a lot more people in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) and in fact the Golden Horse Shoe to support a second team.

2. Not only the people of the GTA and the Golden Horse Shoe (all the cities around Lake Ontario), there is the entire South and South Western Ontario that includes major Canadian cities like London, Kitchener, Waterloo, Hamilton and even Kingston from the other side to draw from.

3. Many people who live in Southern Ontario that do not live in the GTA have a great disdain for anything and anyone from Toronto, in much the same way the Americans are frowned upon by rest of the world because of their obnoxious, ego centric ways and their own jealousy of the Americans.

In fact, if you were to go and poll these people, you would easily find that their most hated team is the Maple Leafs. These people LOVE hockey just like the rest of Canada and would LOVE to have another NHL team that they can drive to within a couple of hours from their homes and cheer for.

Montreal doesn't really have any of these situations that would help their cause.

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10-23-2008, 06:14 AM
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The Toronto rumors of having 2 NHL teams made me think about it. The population is lower than Toronto i know but the Bell Centre is always full...

Maybe a team near downtown like Laval ?
Downtown Laval!?!? what are you talking about? A big island with 76 shopping mall. What's the rally point, Centropolis? héhéhéhé...

Bring back the maroons and let the west island cheer for them, so we could have another ''deux solitudes'' chapter...

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nowonameen!


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10-23-2008, 07:51 AM
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It's not just Toronto that's bigger, It's the surrounding area. there are a lot more people in southern Ontario than in Quebec so no I don't think that Mtl could support 2 teams. Your TV viewing audience is more important than filling the stands $$ wise
That's that way I see it. Southern Ontario probably has close to 7 million people to support two hockey clubs, the Montreal area isn't close.

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