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10-24-2008, 06:37 PM
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usually its a joke but this time its serious... Gainey

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10-24-2008, 06:42 PM
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When I read the title I thought he would propose to get rid of headshots after what happened to Kostitsyn.

This idea by Gainey is bad.

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10-24-2008, 06:45 PM
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More scoring is so easy to solve.....

allow whatever curve the player wants on his stick!

Case closed!

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10-24-2008, 06:49 PM
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I think what he meant is that players will be less encouraged to jump in front of a shot. Therefor avoiding injuries related to blocking a powerful shot.
Actually, I think he means that players will just turn their feet to block a shot, resulting in even more injuries to ankles.

I don't know about this one...

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10-24-2008, 06:55 PM
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I don't think his intention was to be taken seriously. More over the fact that they constantly hinder goaltenders, not realizing that maybe goalies have just gotten better?

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10-24-2008, 07:00 PM
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Oh No! Bob's losing his mind!

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10-24-2008, 07:02 PM
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There is some merit in Gainey's proposal. Blocks are still allowed, and encouraged. It's just the act of sliding on the ice with your whole body that is not allowed. Rarely is this type of block attempted. An example is on a 2 on one and the defenceman at the last minute dives and slides to block any pass attempt or low shot on net. This play would be a penalty. the "desperation move"

http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?s...ticleid=388378

an article on how komi usually blocks shots, which would still be legal. You just need to keep one skate on the ice at least.


For me the alternatives that i have been hearing "bigger nets" "even smaller goalie equipment" etc are just not the answer. I am happy with the amount of offence, but i am not afraid to explore smaller, changes that all lead to a small increase in offence.

1. allow any type of curve a player wishes. The reason all along for the limit on the curve was mainly due to goalies not wearing masks before. most players will change their blade minimally cause you still need to shoot with it.

2. modify blocking like gainey suggests. Ya so diving to block a shot is a penalty just like hauling down the puck carrier.

3. expand the roster to 24, so that you can carry a specialist player like a goon or a shootout specialist.

4. there are many small things that can be done to increase offence. Changing the size of the nets is the stupidest thing to do to hockey.



edit: to be honest, every time i say out loud or hear on TV that making the nets bigger is stupid i say to my self. Why even defend such a stupid thing. People may think that it is actually a possibility. Cause if it happens, the game will lose me.


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10-24-2008, 07:11 PM
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I don't think any increase in offense is needed. But if it had to happen, increasing the size of the nets would be the smartest thing to do.

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10-24-2008, 07:11 PM
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You people have to realize that we are dealing with a superior hockey intellect here. I mean, just look at how our team has thrived during his tenure as GM. You can't seriously expect to comprehend just how brilliant this proposition is.

Having said that, as I can only see this proposition through the lens of my own admittedly inferior hockey intellect, I'm unable (I guess) to completely appreciate its profundity.

Saint Bob forever!

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10-24-2008, 07:12 PM
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I would support a radical idea like this if it's the only bulwark left to block the heresy of enlarging the nets. I don't think we're there yet so it's a nonstarter.

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10-24-2008, 07:12 PM
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What about if they addressed the real problem and removed 4-6 teams from the league?

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10-24-2008, 07:20 PM
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officially worst idea ever ?

no wait ... Bobby Clarke ...

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10-24-2008, 07:57 PM
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What's next, someone suggesting taking away hitting and physical play will also increase scoring. Gainey's idea is almost as bad.

Enough with fooling with the fabric of the game. If you want to increase offense, shrink the goalie equipment back to Billy Smithesqe levels, don't let d-man take one hand off their stick to defend and call clutching and grabbing.

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10-24-2008, 08:01 PM
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I'm not too sure this idea will do very much besides leading to more penalties. Players can block shots quite well as it is now without having to slide down on the ice, so, i do not see this idea helping much really unless to give more powerplay goals lol

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BIG LOL at Maxime Talbot's reaction on the RDS website

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10-24-2008, 08:52 PM
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how about slimming down the post width.

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10-24-2008, 09:00 PM
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My league has this rule and it's ********.....I love Gainey and the man is clearly a mastermind, but I'd like to hear his rationality about this rule

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10-24-2008, 09:36 PM
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Terrible idea. I can see the reasoning for it, but if it's passed, it will be a shame.

I don't get the need for all these rule changes. Scoring's up, what's the major problem?

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10-24-2008, 09:51 PM
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More scoring is so easy to solve.....

allow whatever curve the player wants on his stick!

Case closed!
I think Ovechkin never heard of that rule :
But I agree with it (poor goalies, would be fugly for them).


So to explain the new B.G. blocking rule here is an example, D-men can't do this :


Big thanks to Cupmonger avatar.

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10-24-2008, 09:53 PM
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Wow! It's the first time that I strongly disagree with `Gainey's opinion. I totally agree with the fact that we should stop changing the things related to goaltending but this is just absurd. Who doesn't love to see someone slide in front of a shot from the point on the PK on break a two on one with a timely slide. Pretty stupide if you ask me.

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10-24-2008, 10:29 PM
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I think Ovechkin never heard of that rule :
But I agree with it (poor goalies, would be fugly for them).


So to explain the new B.G. blocking rule here is an example, D-men can't do this :


Big thanks to Cupmonger avatar.
HAHAHA sure any time

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10-24-2008, 10:42 PM
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did anybody else here the proposition that if your team is on the delayed penalty call, instead of having possession to get the whistle, you have to clear it out of your zone?

i thought i heard it on NHL Live on XM today...

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did anybody else here the proposition that if your team is on the delayed penalty call, instead of having possession to get the whistle, you have to clear it out of your zone?

i thought i heard it on NHL Live on XM today...
Whoa! That would be way harder for penalized teams.

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10-24-2008, 10:57 PM
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did anybody else here the proposition that if your team is on the delayed penalty call, instead of having possession to get the whistle, you have to clear it out of your zone?

i thought i heard it on NHL Live on XM today...
I didn't hear that, I don't have XM. What if you're not in your zone, then you just have to touch it? How about serving a whole 2 minutes when you take a penalty, that should increase scoring imo.

I don't think it's that crazy for a player needing a skate on the ice to make a play, but it's pretty close to crazy. Not sure if that's what Bob means though.

The NHL has crazy rules already so I wouldn't be surprised if more weird ones came out in the near future.

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Whoa! That would be way harder for penalized teams.
I could see puck over glass penalties resulting but I think that rule needs to go anyway (should only be like an icing).


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10-24-2008, 11:03 PM
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I could see puck over glass penalties resulting but I think that rule needs to go anyway (should only be like an icing).
Yea that sounds fair. Personally I don't mind if BG's rule goes through. But making an icing type of call can be good. I just feel that, games could be more interesting to see when observing a dman doing a smart play as opposed to just diving and hoping he gets to block a shot. I'm not saying the diving is a dumb move, quite the opposite. I just feel that I wouldn't mind seeing a dman do something else that can help out his goalie without having to jump in front.

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