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10-27-2008, 02:26 AM
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My thoughts on Tortorella? He's a bad coach.

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10-27-2008, 09:48 AM
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MacT isn't held accountable like all the other coaches in the league. If he was, he would hold players accountable. If he coached for other teams, he would have been fired five times by now. No coach has excuses made for him like our MacT, by fans and media...

As far as the "togetherness" of the dressing room, that wasn't a MacT invention. It was there before he even wore the jersey, it'll be there when he's gone. I don't think a different coach will affect that too much.

I would love to see MacT get canned, but you know damn well that they're going to give the job to Buchburger. Gawd help us.

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10-27-2008, 10:12 AM
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Tortorella has shown an ability to guide young men.

I don't quite think its time to think about canning MacT. Keep in mind that the defense is learning a completely new system with 2 new D men (Vis & for all intents and purposes Souray).

If 30 Games into the season we aren't atleast .500 then can him.

At least Torts is good for a quote.
AH, but if you are going to can someone, better to do it sooner then later. I think it is quite obvious that MacT has overstayed his welcome and is unable to get full (or even half) potential out of his top (or any) players for the first 7 games of the season. Can't keep giving him an out or else he will never get fired. He is accountable for this slow start IMO (this team looks so out off balanced in almost every area of the game) considering he cant even get a single complete game out of these guys.

I like Torts too, he has some fire behind the bench. MacT yells at the refs alot, but never his own players, Torts definitely would bring some welcomed energy behind the bench.


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10-27-2008, 12:53 PM
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I've been pushing for Tortorella since he was on thin ice in TB. He'd be perfect to light a fire and hold players accountable. Trend in Edmonton is to take far too many nights off during a season.

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10-27-2008, 12:56 PM
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no thanks,he looks like a sleasy porn star
lol, coming from the guy with the weirdest/sleasy profile pic...

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10-27-2008, 01:31 PM
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Wouldn't hurt to bring him in as at least an assistant coach. I would love to see him bring some much needed energy in the locker room. I would take him in a heartbeat for his antics alone.

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10-27-2008, 01:40 PM
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No thanks to Torts, If a new coach, or atmosphere change is needed. Pat Burns would be an ideal a** kicker. All MacT has to do is take a page from Ron Wilson's book and PB players that don't put out. He did it last year with Stoll and Torres, but then kind of felt bad after.
Back in the day Sather would ride his players extremely hard, (including a whole pile of HOFers) and thats why they won. Yes they were talented, but everyone was held accountable, and the team worked extremely hard. MacT has seem to have forgotten this.

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10-27-2008, 02:18 PM
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He does have a temper, yeah, but I don't mind some fire behind the bench.
Guys like Hemsky and Penner need to be kicked in the ass now and again.
He works for TSN. Thats all I need to know. They identify great hockey minds. Duthie, Macguire, Domi, Millbury. Bah ha ha.

The oilers identify and have players with high IQ and hockey sense. If torterella started one of his rants, the players would look at him and say who is this *********g Idiot. Then they would look to the Captian. He should be the kick in the pants guy.

I am trying to think of coaches smart enough to coach this team. Can you think of any?

Oh wait he already coaches them.

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10-27-2008, 02:51 PM
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He works for TSN. Thats all I need to know. They identify great hockey minds. Duthie, Macguire, Domi, Millbury. Bah ha ha.

The oilers identify and have players with high IQ and hockey sense. If torterella started one of his rants, the players would look at him and say who is this *********g Idiot. Then they would look to the Captian. He should be the kick in the pants guy.

I am trying to think of coaches smart enough to coach this team. Can you think of any?

Oh wait he already coaches them.
He's a Stanley Cup winning coach who got his squad into the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons, not sure what him working on TSN has to do with anything. Most coaches will do a stint on TV in between coaching jobs.

And yeah, we have a genius coach who plays half the roster out of position and once paired Joffrey Lupul with Tobey Petersen for 2/3rds of a season.

And Moreau the "kick in the pants" guy ... lol .... this is a guy who said after losing 6-3 to Vancouver that he was reasonably satisfied with the effort.

Good luck with that. This team has a bad habit of sleepwalking through long stretches and coming out flat. I also think Hemsky has probably tuned Mac T out ... there's nothing Mac T can teach him at this point.

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10-27-2008, 02:54 PM
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He's a Stanley Cup winning coach, not sure what him working on TSN has to do with anything. Most coaches will do a stint on TV in between coaching jobs.

And yeah, we have a genius coach who plays half the roster out of position and paired Joffrey Lupul with Tobey Petersen for 2/3rds of a season.

And Moreau the "kick in the pants" guy ... lol .... this is a guy who said after losing 6-3 to Vancouver that he was reasonably satisfied with the effort.

Good luck with that. This team has a bad habit of sleepwalking through long stretches and coming out flat.
Well in defense of Moreau, I was also reasonably satisfied with the effort. Doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. He was just stating the obvious. the effort was there, just not the results.

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10-27-2008, 02:58 PM
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Well in defense of Moreau, I was also reasonably satisfied with the effort. Doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. He was just stating the obvious. the effort was there, just not the results.
True or not though if that's the "kick in the pants" type of leader the team looks to while the coach plays the analytical Xs and Os guy ... is it really a wonder this team often looks like a team of skating zombies out there?

It just seems like on any given night outside of the occasional hot streak this team can come out and play with absolutely zero passion, zero intensity, and if they do somehow get a lead, they rope-a-dope it into the third trying to hold on and getting their goalie to bail them out.

An aggressive forecheck seems to have become all but a far gone memory in Edmonton. At least this year's team seems to be some what physical.

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True or not though if that's the "kick in the pants" type of leader the team looks to while the coach plays the analytical Xs and Os guy ... is it really a wonder this team often looks like a team of skating zombies out there?

It just seems like on any given night outside of the occasional hot streak this team can come out and play with absolutely zero passion, zero intensity, and if they do somehow get a lead, they rope-a-dope it into the third trying to hold on and getting their goalie to bail them out.

An aggressive forecheck seems to have become all but a far gone memory in Edmonton. At least this year's team seems to be some what physical.
Well in all fairness they are trying a new system, new systems take time to iron out the kinks.

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10-27-2008, 03:34 PM
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Silly argument. The effort level was our very last issue in the Vancouver game, it was our penalty killing and unfortunate predilection to giving up odd-man rushes and high end scoring chances that cost us the game.

Tortorella can be a *********. He can yell and scream and probably would hold players accountable (should mention that you have no idea how accountable players are under MacTavish) - but he doesn't do much else.

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10-27-2008, 04:11 PM
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He's a Stanley Cup winning coach who got his squad into the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons, not sure what him working on TSN has to do with anything. Most coaches will do a stint on TV in between coaching jobs.

And yeah, we have a genius coach who plays half the roster out of position and once paired Joffrey Lupul with Tobey Petersen for 2/3rds of a season.

And Moreau the "kick in the pants" guy ... lol .... this is a guy who said after losing 6-3 to Vancouver that he was reasonably satisfied with the effort.

Good luck with that. This team has a bad habit of sleepwalking through long stretches and coming out flat. I also think Hemsky has probably tuned Mac T out ... there's nothing Mac T can teach him at this point.
Compare his roster over the last 5 years to ours and you will have your answer

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10-27-2008, 05:28 PM
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Compare his roster over the last 5 years to ours and you will have your answer
What were Lecavalier, St. Louis, Richards, and Boyle before Torts got there though? All those guys improved into All-Stars under him.

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