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10-28-2008, 12:44 AM
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No....because if that goal was never score then the Kings would not have went into a defensive shell.....thus eliminating the Gauthier mistake. It would have still been a tie.
Even when the Kings weren't in a 'defensive shell' they were still getting outshot... badly... I don't think they would necessarily have scored another goal simply because they weren't trying to protect a one goal lead.

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Next plane to Manchester? He was on the ice the next shift.
Which was the biggest mystery of all. Apparently Murray did not see what Gauthier had done just 1 minute before....

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Earned a deflection? Well, the only reason Gauthier went to the middle there is because he saw two Wings on his winger on the boards... Filppula read Gauthier like he was playing linebacker and moved into the passing lane... I think that warrants "earning" a takeaway.
I was listening to the Redwings feed, and even they were saying use the boards to get it to your wingers. There were three forwards ready to go, and he passed it in the middle. There was room to manouver from the angle i saw in the replay.

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Next plane to Manchester? He was on the ice the next shift.
Exactly - inexcusable. No NHL defender should ever make that bad a play in that important a moment against a team like the Wings. Disgraceful. Now you know why the Flyers dumped this guy for Modry.

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Earned a deflection? Well, the only reason Gauthier went to the middle there is because he saw two Wings on his winger on the boards... Filppula read Gauthier like he was playing linebacker and moved into the passing lane... I think that warrants "earning" a takeaway.
Gauthier should have flipped the puck behind him along the boards. Its ALWAYS a bad idea to pass the puck in front of the net when the other team has pressure in the zone.

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Even when the Kings weren't in a 'defensive shell' they were still getting outshot... badly... I don't think they would necessarily have scored another goal simply because they weren't trying to protect a one goal lead.
I did not say the Kings would have scored another goal....but it was 2-2 to start the 3rd.....if it was not for the lead the Gauthier mistake would have never been made....which means regulation would have probably ended 2-2 without the Frolov goal.

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Filppula read Gauthier like he was playing linebacker and moved into the passing lane... I think that warrants "earning" a takeaway.
Reading Gauthier is like reading a children's pop-up book.

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Reading Gauthier is like reading a children's pop-up book.
Ouch, harsh

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Gauthier should have flipped the puck behind him along the boards. Its ALWAYS a bad idea to pass the puck in front of the net when the other team has pressure in the zone.
That play is a staple of the Red Wings break out. Seems to work for them.

I am not saying Gauthier made a great play, but his reason for making it was because his initial read was taken away and he went with his secondary read, which he was forced to do because of the pressure of the Wings. Simply put, the Wings had to do something to cause Gauthier to make a "bonehead" play... but for the pressure it wouldn't have happened and there wouldn't have been a goal. Thus, it is "earned" in the same way that a deflection goal from a pass off of Lidstrom's skate was.

I am not positing that either of these goals were immaculate or a clear showing of dominance... only that they are more like one another than not.


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10-28-2008, 12:51 AM
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I did not say the Kings would have scored another goal....but it was 2-2 to start the 3rd.....if it was not for the lead the Gauthier mistake would have never been made....which means regulation would have probably ended 2-2 without the Frolov goal.
If that is the case then the Wings still win in a SO? So, regardless of the deflection or giveaway the Wings would have won the game. I can accept that point and see its merit.

Also, I love the random PM I got from a Kings fan flaming on me for trolling... I was trying to have a good hockey convo, but apparently am coming off as a troll who needs to watch hockey and learn something. Sorry if I hurt any feelings. Have a good night.

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If that is the case then the Wings still win in a SO? So, regardless of the deflection or giveaway the Wings would have won the game. I can accept that point and see its merit.
Exactly....so the results could have been the same minus two unfortunate plays (one for each team).

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If that is the case then the Wings still win in a SO? So, regardless of the deflection or giveaway the Wings would have won the game. I can accept that point and see its merit.
How can you even begin to compare a deflection which happens frequently when goals are scored to a ****ing direct pass to a guy in the wrong coloured shirt (in our case anyway). Come on! That is reaching.

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How can you even begin to compare a deflection which happens frequently when goals are scored to a ****ing direct pass to a guy in the wrong coloured shirt (in our case anyway). Come on! That is reaching.
Well Sue...we can all play the "what if" game....I for one think that the game would have been much different if the Kings would not have been off sides on that 3 on 1. But you can probably find at least a dozen incidents on both sides of the ice that could have changed the outcome for either team.

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goals happen, get over it

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10-28-2008, 01:01 AM
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Tonight's game is a perfect example of why the Kings will not make the playoffs this season. They do not know how to close out a game.


If Doughty can start collecting points, he may be considered for the Calder.

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10-28-2008, 01:02 AM
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Gauthier should have flipped the puck behind him along the boards. Its ALWAYS a bad idea to pass the puck in front of the net when the other team has pressure in the zone.
what Gauthier should of done was watched the play while sitting on the bench... WHY THE **** WAS HARROLD AND HIM OUT THERE WITH TWO MINUTES LEFT!! brutal coaching by Murray...

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what Gauthier should of done was watched the play while sitting on the bench... WHY THE **** WAS HARROLD AND HIM OUT THERE WITH TWO MINUTES LEFT!! brutal coaching by Murray...
I agree....with 2 minutes left only top 4 defensemen should be on the ice.....either....

Doughty/O'Donnell

or

Quincey/Greene

Why was the third pairing on the ice at the most important time of the game????

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I agree....with 2 minutes left only top 4 defensemen should be on the ice.....either....

Doughty/O'Donnell

or

Quincey/Greene

Why was the third pairing on the ice at the most important time of the game????
learning how to lose?

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Post game thread is open boys.

No girls tonight though...just Aberlour Single Malt and lots of glasses.

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Not sure if anyone noticed....but LaBarbera was the #1 star of the game......and Quincey was #3.....Good to get a star against the team that gave you away for nothing.

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The tank is on....we just don't know it yet.

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Well Sue...we can all play the "what if" game....I for one think that the game would have been much different if the Kings would not have been off sides on that 3 on 1. But you can probably find at least a dozen incidents on both sides of the ice that could have changed the outcome for either team.
I don't disagree with you, and that is why people spend a lot of time debating the what ifs in the game. I don't think you can compare a deflection to a give away in this situation. Just my own personal opinion. I of course will feel completely bad for taking this all out on Gauthier because he made a human error, but i just felt a moment of complete frustration and had to express it. Its done now. I am all good.

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Debate away... in the postgame thread. It's now open!

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