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10-28-2008, 08:47 PM
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Why are coaches afraid to lose their jobs?

They coach not to lose instead of coaching to win.Why is that? You look at the turnover in the NHL and coaches don't last long with their teams anyways.

So why not unleash the dogs and go for it? You really don't have anything to lose.

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10-28-2008, 08:50 PM
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You play the hand you are dealt. If you have scrubs then you play the trap and hope for a break.

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10-28-2008, 08:58 PM
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You play the hand you are dealt. If you have scrubs then you play the trap and hope for a break.
yeah but in the end where does that get you?you'll be fired before you know it and another coach comes in.

If i'm a coach i'm not preaching defense all the time everytime.I'd be aggressive with my defensman and let them join the rush.I'd allow them to pinch in when they see fit and just overall play an aggressive game rather than sit back.I wouldn't be conservative in the least.

Some of these coaches just need to have some balls that's all i'm saying really.

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10-28-2008, 09:01 PM
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yeah but in the end where does that get you?you'll be fired before you know it and another coach comes in.

If i'm a coach i'm not preaching defense all the time everytime.I'd be aggressive with my defensman and let them join the rush.I'd allow them to pinch in when they see fit and just overall play an aggressive game rather than sit back.I wouldn't be conservative in the least.

Some of these coaches just need to have some balls that's all i'm saying really.
You're obviously much smarter than these NHL coaches.

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10-28-2008, 09:03 PM
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Because if they don't have jobs they don't get paid?

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When was the last time a team that played responsible defense won the cup?


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10-28-2008, 09:07 PM
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When was the last time a team that played responsible defense won the cup?
Lidstrom
Kronwall
Rafalski
Stuart
etc.
etc.
etc.

Niedermayer
Pronger
Schneider
O'Donnell
Beauchemin
etc.
etc.
etc.

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Lidstrom
Kronwall
Rafalski
Stuart
etc.
etc.
etc.

Niedermayer
Pronger
Schneider
O'Donnell
Beauchemin
etc.
etc.
etc.
He wasn't there yet. Also edited my post.

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10-28-2008, 09:14 PM
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I thought this thread was going to be about how getting fired isn't a big deal because how even bad coaches can find new jobs (ahem, Mike Keenan)

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10-28-2008, 09:19 PM
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I thought this thread was going to be about how getting fired isn't a big deal because how even bad coaches can find new jobs (ahem, Mike Keenan)
So bad he has 600+ wins and four finals appearances.

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10-28-2008, 09:32 PM
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So bad he has 600+ wins and four finals appearances.
He was once a good coach, but I don't think his coaching style is as effective anymore...

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10-28-2008, 09:33 PM
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Because unemployment sucks

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10-28-2008, 09:43 PM
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He wasn't there yet. Also edited my post.
DiPenta/Huskins.

Not great, but ok.

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10-28-2008, 11:18 PM
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But it's not really unemployment. If I'm not mistaken, these coaches sign a contract, if they get fired they are still owed the rest of the money on the contract.

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10-29-2008, 02:12 AM
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Who wants to hire a losing coach? Coaches play to win, not to lose. If you let the defense jump up on the offense all the time and get scoring on breakaways or 2-on-1s a lot, that team is likely to lose. Ergo, coach is fired. Easier to fire coach in mid-season then to trade away a few members of a team.

What fan wants to go see a losing team? Most clubs are not like the Canadian clubs with a dearth of fan base. Teams need to win to attract more fans to go to the games. The trap might be boring but its also winning hockey, which should equal more fans.

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10-29-2008, 12:47 PM
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He was once a good coach, but I don't think his coaching style is as effective anymore...
Isn't Keenan also second or third in all time losses (and not in wins by the way) and hasn't won a playoff round since 1994? Yeah, he's really accomplished.

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10-29-2008, 12:58 PM
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Keenan is great, if you need an old time Marine Sergeant that likes to humiliate and bully his men in public to hide his own weaknesses. How this guy can get a new job every time is one the unsolved mysteries.

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10-29-2008, 01:05 PM
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Because if they don't have jobs they don't get paid?
Don't coaches get paid for the duration of their contract if they are fired?

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10-29-2008, 01:12 PM
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Don't coaches get paid for the duration of their contract if they are fired?
Coaches contracts are always guaranteed, unless you're working for the Al Davis in the NHL. Teams are typically let out of all (or at least most based on his new salary) of the contract if the ex-coach is hired by another team.

And on the original question - coachs will do whatever they think gives them the best chance to win - not what produces the most exciting game. If they think that activating the D and opening the game up - they will. However, in most cases they feel that they have a better chance win by playing a sound defensive game and hoping they score enough to win.

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