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11-04-2008, 01:40 AM
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Predators' Team Leaders
Goals: Martin Erat, 6
Assists: Jean-Pierre Dumont, 12
Points: Dumont, 14
Power Play Goals: Jason Arnott, 3
Power play scoring: Dumont, 5
Short-Handed Goals: Joel Ward, 1
Plus-Minus: Shea Weber, +5
Penalty Minutes: Dan Hamhuis, 19
Hits: Hamhuis, Weber, 26
Blocked Shots: Greg Zanon, 31
Giveaways: Dumont, 8
Takeaways: Hamhuis, Jordin Tootoo, 10
Turnover Differential: Tootoo, +7
Wins: Dan Ellis, 4-4-1
Minutes Played: Ellis, 533
GAA: Pekka Rinne, 2.69
Save Percentage: Rinne, 90.3%
Shutouts: None Recorded

Predators' Fun Fact: Tonight marks head coach Barry Trotz's 750th NHL game behind the bench, all of which have come with the Predators.

Predators' Player to Watch: Jean-Pierre Dumont, currently on a seven game point streak. *sings* Here he comes, look at that, look at that, there he goes, look at that, look at that...

Predators' Reason to Worry: The Preds penalty kill is operating at an abysmal 65.4% on the road, the worst number in the NHL. The Preds also have a mere 12.0% power play conversion rating on the road, which is 27th in the NHL.

Predators' Injuries
None

Predators' Projected Lineup
Hörnqvist-Arnott-Dumont
Jones-Legwand-Erat
Tarnasky-Fiddler-Tootoo
Smithson-Bonk-Ward

Weber-Suter
Hamhuis-De Vries
Zanon-Koistinen

Ellis

Cancuks' Team Leaders
Goals: Ryan Kesler, Alexandre Burrows, Mason Raymond, Steve Bernier, Kyle Wellwood, 4
Assists: Henrik Sedin, 7
Points: Kesler, H. Sedin, 10
Power Play Goals: Wellwood, 3
Shorthanded Goals: Burrows, Rick Rypien, 1
Shots: Raymond, 33
Shooting Percentage: Wellwood, 44.4%
Plus-Minus: Burrows, Willie Mitchell, +6
Penalty Minutes: Mike Brown, 25
Wins: Roberto Luongo, 6-5-0
Minutes Played: Luongo, 643
GAA: Luongo, 2.99
Save Percentage: Luongo, .899
Shutouts: Luongo, 2

Canucks' Fun Fact: The high-flying Canucks are 6th in the NHL in goals scored, with five players accounting for roughly half of their 41 goals.

Canukcs' Player to Watch: Kyle Wellwood has had an impressive performance in relief of the injured Pavol Demitra, with four goals in his 7 games with Vancouver, including three power play tallies. Also be on the lookout for Alexandre Burrows, who has an impressive four goals and nine points in twelve games, as well as 24 penalty minutes.

Cancuks' Reason to Worry: Vancouver are 1-5-0 when conceding the first goal. They've also conceded 38 goals this season, making them the 8th worst defensive unit in the NHL. That's not a healthy combination.

Canucks' Injuries and Transactions
Pavol Demitra (Ribs, IR)
Rick Rypien (Hernia, IR)
Jannik Hansen (Groin, DTD, out tonight)

The Canucks have placed Michel Ouellet on re-entry waivers and he could be expected to play as early as tonight.

Cancuks' Projected Lineup
Sedin-Sedin-Ouellet
Pyatt-Wellwood-Bernier
Burrows-Kesler-Raymond
Hordichuk-Johnson-Brown

Bieksa-Mitchell
Edler-Ohlund
O'Brien-Salo

Luongo



Media Coverage: The game will be on TSN and Team 1040 in Vancouver, and FSN and 104.5 "The Zone" in Nashville. Face-off is at 9PM CST.


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11-04-2008, 08:28 AM
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You officially have my support to start all GDTs. The tradition to switch after every loss is simply not worth it after seeing you put these out.

Big game tonight. We have had a tough time with Luongo in the past. If we score tonight, its going to be dirty. I'm predicting a PPG from Weber, and a goal from Jones.

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I predict Preds 4 - Bernier 2.

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11-04-2008, 12:49 PM
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Ouellet will score tonight on the PP with the twins.

5-2 Vancouver

1. Burrows from Kesler, Ohlund
2. Arnott from Weber, Dumont (PP)
3. Fiddler unassisted
4. Ouellet from D. Sedin, H. Sedin (PP)
5. Edler from Bieksa, H. Sedin (PP)
6. Bernier from Wellwood
7. Kelser unassisted (EN)

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11-04-2008, 02:37 PM
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I don't see the Canucks getting 5, especially with 3 on the powerplay.

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11-04-2008, 05:23 PM
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Always stay classy, hedgehog! And this coming from someone who's team used to have jarkko ruutu.

Anyway, here's to a good game tonight!!!
I understand the roll of the agitator, and like you have mentioned, I have seen a few agitators on the Canucks. But it is one thing to be an agitator like Ruutu or Burrows, and a completely different think to be a dirty player that throws cheap shots periodically. Like you said, Ruutu is an agitator - but he doesn't commit the kind of cheap shots that Tootoo does.


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I understand the roll of the agitator, and like you have mentioned, I have seen a few agitators on the Canucks. But it is one thing to be an agitator like Ruutu or Burrows, and a completely different think to be a dirty player that throws cheap shots periodically. Like you said, Ruutu is an agitator - but he doesn't commit the kind of cheap shots that Tootoo does.
I always hear about Tootoo's constant "cheap shots," yet never seem to see substantial evidence of them. At best, people use things like the Robidas\Modano incident in which Tootoo was at worst half-to-blame (Tootoo hits Modano clean, Modano swings stick at head, tootoo defends himself\face washes modano, robidas comes charging in, tootoo turns and cold ***** him)


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I always hear about Tootoo's constant "cheap shots," yet never seem to see substantial evidence of them. At best, people use things like the Robidas\Modano incident in which Tootoo was at worst half-to-blame (Tootoo hits Modano clean, Modano swings stick at head, tootoo defends himself\face washes modano, robidas comes charging in, tootoo turns and cold ***** him)
The Robidas punch was a cheap shot, you just don't do that in hockey. He did the exact same thing to Luc Bourdon as well. Tootoo has a history of dirty play and that is reflected in his suspension history. Agitators like Burrows and Ruutu don't have this same history of dirty play and subsequent suspension history.

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I understand HH's fear about Tootoo, I would be scared also if my team was the softest in Canada and that says alot when you think about Ottawa. The sisters will be doing the Kariya snow blower along the boards instead of cutting to the net. At least you guys got rid of that other jam tart (Naslund) to the rags this season.

Anyways, a great city but a soft team.

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Ditto. What a jackass.

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Keep it clean. Any trolling will be dealt with quickly.

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The Robidas punch was a cheap shot, you just don't do that in hockey. He did the exact same thing to Luc Bourdon as well. Tootoo has a history of dirty play and that is reflected in his suspension history. Agitators like Burrows and Ruutu don't have this same history of dirty play and subsequent suspension history.
The same Bourdon that speared Gilbert Brule in the mem cup in Moncton, ok. Burrows and Ruutu, are you kidding me? Every team has a player or two on the edge and don't tell me you wouldn't want 22. He was this way in Brandon and I hope he never will change.

Ok Enoch, I digress.

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Per Glennon's blog, Nichol, Peverley, and Klein all sitting tonight.

Lineup updated accordingly.

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Per Glennon's blog, Nichol, Peverley, and Klein all sitting tonight.

Lineup updated accordingly.
Nichol? Interesting, I hadn't noticed him playing bad. And I'm surprised Fiddler is starting over him.

I guess Trotz wants to give Fiddler another shot, and we have to play Tarnasky tonight. I guess its just a numbers game.

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Nichol? Interesting, I hadn't noticed him playing bad. And I'm surprised Fiddler is starting over him.

I guess Trotz wants to give Fiddler another shot, and we have to play Tarnasky tonight. I guess its just a numbers game.
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lol I dunno who started that but I get a VERY DISTURBING picture in my head whenever someone says that

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How about...not here.

Let's go with a little more in depth hockey talk here. Maybe it's more like Fiddler and Nichol are seen as interchangeable and neither is playing well enough to bench the other.

Rotating players seems to be the way the coaching staff wants to keep things going this year.

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1st goal is all on our shoddy net clearance. Ugh. PP goal for Edler

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That was a horrible play by De Vries.

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That was a horrible play by De Vries.
DeVries and Hamhuis have been pretty bad this year. I expect both to pick up their games, but the poor play from Hamhuis....even worse than Devries in many instances, is surprising.

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That might have been our worst all around game, this year. Any time we get marginalized in the neutral zone, it's going to be a long night. We can't play a dump and chase game.

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That might have been our worst all around game, this year. Any time we get marginalized in the neutral zone, it's going to be a long night. We can't play a dump and chase game.
We looked pretty bad. Ellis kept us in it in the first two periods, but the flood gates opened in the third.

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We looked like John McCain last night ... slow, old & decrepit

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Smithson and Koistenin were our worst players by far for this game.

and Hamhuis always has a bad game in Vancouver, I dont know if it is the family pressure our what. I remember the last time he got into a fight up there
and was ragdolled in front of the hometown folks.

Why not try splitting him and deVries up to see what happens to them.


Also, Jones is going to get burned if he keeps doing drop passes as he's coming over our blueline.

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