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11-05-2008, 07:03 PM
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Congratulations Desharnais

I've been very impressed with him in the little time he has spent with the Dogs. Hopefully he continues to improve and gives himself a good shot at making the NHL in the coming years.

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11-05-2008, 07:08 PM
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What's his rating?

7.0D
7.0C????


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11-05-2008, 07:18 PM
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10.9 A+.... at least

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11-05-2008, 07:44 PM
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Congrats to David! He is skilled and works hard, has a lot of heart as he doesn't seemt to shy from the heavy traffic areas or corners. He's solid in his own end as well. I am suprised that he's been so productive in the AHL this year, after not looking so hot in a few games last year but I'm glad to see him doing well after a monster year in the ECHL last season.

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11-05-2008, 08:14 PM
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Will be interesting to see if he can make the final jump to the NHL.
i doubt it... but you can never say never to a kid that plays with this much heart. keep it up david

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11-05-2008, 08:17 PM
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He'll never make it.

I Hope he proves me wrong though.

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11-05-2008, 10:40 PM
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Difference is those players were all elite prospects and damn good NHLers. Still have yet to see what Desharnais can do.
Elite prospects? Martin St. Louis wasn't even drafted. He got released by Calgary, the team that signed him, then tried out for the Ottawa Senators and was cut before he landed in Tampa.

Does that sound like an elite prospect to you?

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Were St-Louis or Fleury elite prospects?
Not at all. Theo Fleury was an eighth round draft pick.

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Yes. Fleury was drafted late because of his size, but had 61 goals and 68 assists (42 more points than the 2nd leading scorer on the team) in 66 games in the WHL, which is amazing. St. Louis, though undrafted, had great stats (along with Eric Perrin) at Vermont (once had 85 points in 35 games).
All of this aside, both were far from 'elite level prospects.' St. Louis, as you say, wasn't even drafted. Their were serious issues with strength for Martin.

These guys were gambles that paid off big. When the league shifted to much bigger players, there's only a small handful of guys their size that have been able to be big time scorers.


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11-05-2008, 10:52 PM
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Theo, Gionta, and Marty had/have blazing speed. Not sure whether that is the case Desharnais.

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11-05-2008, 11:34 PM
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Elite prospects? Martin St. Louis wasn't even drafted. He got released by Calgary, the team that signed him, then tried out for the Ottawa Senators and was cut before he landed in Tampa.

Does that sound like an elite prospect to you?



Not at all. Theo Fleury was an eighth round draft pick.



All of this aside, both were far from 'elite level prospects.' St. Louis, as you say, wasn't even drafted. Their were serious issues with strength for Martin.

These guys were gambles that paid off big. When the league shifted to much bigger players, there's only a small handful of guys their size that have been able to be big time scorers.
Okay they were elite Junior/College players, who cares about terms? The point was those players did better than Desharnais in the Juniors so making the comparison to them just because they are all undersized and made the NHL is off.

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11-05-2008, 11:38 PM
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Coming from a Cyclones fan who watched him his whole stint here, this is excellent news, just like it was when Greg Stewart got to play as a Hab. DD was outstanding at the ECHL level and it was great to see him well in the A. Congrats David, there's room on that next finger to go along with the Kelly Cup ring.

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11-05-2008, 11:42 PM
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Martin St-Louis says Hi!
So does Corey Locke......

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11-06-2008, 12:28 AM
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So does Corey Locke......
Whats the point of this?? All we are saying is that just cause he's small doesn't mean that there is absolutely 100%, no chance he can play in the NHL. Pointing to guys who never made it proves nothing. I can point to millions of hockey players who dreamed of playing in the NHL that were born in Canada does that mean that 100% of players born in canada will never make the NHL, of course not... thats just silly. I can't point to millions of people who are short and never made the NHL, so what, that doesn't mean that no short hockey player will ever play in the NHL.

The point was you can't make absolute statements like he's too short he 100% won't play in the NHL cause the same things could be said about Fleury, Ronning, St.Louis, and others. Is being short a hinderance yes... is it a non-starter NO.

Whats the risk in signing this guy... hes got 9points in 11 games in the AHL. He won the ECHL scoring title and MVP last year and led the ECHL playoff scoring race too. He looked decent for the Habs in preseason. You didn't waste a draft pick on him... he's a free asset. If he busts or is a career AHLer... oh well, no big deal, nothing ventured nothing gained. And if he continues to score at the AHL level, continues to develop and becomes a decent NHLer... well thats a big bonus for the Habs.

Its a no risk - potential big reward type move.... whats the problem...

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11-06-2008, 04:37 AM
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And nobody mentions The Pocket Rocket. Another era yes, but he still was only 5'7".

Good signing. Like Beaker says, no risk - potential big reward.

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11-06-2008, 05:50 AM
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Theo, Gionta, and Marty had/have blazing speed. Not sure whether that is the case Desharnais.
He doesn't have blazing speed, but he is fairly quick.

The kid just has so many things to off-set his small size that I still think he can be an NHLer.

He's got great vision.. his vision is honestly 1st line talent. However, I don't know if he'll ever get that chance due to his size.. BUT on the same note, the guy is a warrior. He'll take a hit, he'll throw a hit.. and the biggest bonus is that he's very good in his own end.

I really see no glaring weaknesses other the size in his game.. and as he continues to get older while becoming mentally tougher.. the size is going to effect his game less and less.

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11-06-2008, 07:38 AM
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And nobody mentions The Pocket Rocket. Another era yes, but he still was only 5'7".

Good signing. Like Beaker says, no risk - potential big reward.
but the biggest heart I've ever seen

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11-06-2008, 08:23 AM
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i'm glad he got signed, always good to give those guys a chance. they can break out into your first 2 lines, or not play in the NHL at all. high reward potential.

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11-06-2008, 09:12 AM
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Yvan Cournoyer says hi. 5'7", 178 lbs.

David Desharnais 5'6", 177 lbs.


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11-06-2008, 09:18 AM
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Sure size isn't everything, but you still need at least 1 extraordinairy feature to make it. Reason why Locke will not make it. And reason why Desharnais "might" make it...his vision is off the chart. He's not big but he's quite strong, not sure if he's St-Louis' or Fleury's strong as far as lower body is concerned. He's not lightning fast but he's fast enough and I think he's still improving in that department. It does seem that he improved his foot speed from the beginning of last year to the beginning of this year. Might not be a lot of room left for improvement, but still....

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11-06-2008, 09:32 AM
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Yvan Cournoyer says hi. 5'7", 178 lbs.

David Desharnais 5'6", 177 lbs.
Hi, right back at ya, Yvan.

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11-06-2008, 09:36 AM
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I'm very glad to see the Habs giving this guy a shot. He had a GREAT year in the ECHL and has started off pretty strong in the AHL this year as well. He's small but relentless and as a small hockey player myself, it's nice to see another make the dream happen!

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/263015.html

I think he is worth a shot...his good start is showing that his game transfers to a higher level. If he has a strong year he'll be knocking at the NHL door next year. Size will always work against him, but some guys that size make it and turn into good players.

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11-06-2008, 09:47 AM
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What's his rating?

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32AA. He's petite.

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Difference is those players were all elite prospects and damn good NHLers. Still have yet to see what Desharnais can do.
Not sure if all players mentionned in this thread were elite at 21...

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I've also stated in the past that I like this prospect. Good for you David!!!

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Sure size isn't everything, but you still need at least 1 extraordinairy feature to make it. Reason why Locke will not make it. And reason why Desharnais "might" make it...his vision is off the chart. He's not big but he's quite strong, not sure if he's St-Louis' or Fleury's strong as far as lower body is concerned. He's not lightning fast but he's fast enough and I think he's still improving in that department. It does seem that he improved his foot speed from the beginning of last year to the beginning of this year. Might not be a lot of room left for improvement, but still....
Desharnais may turn out like Locke, we'll only know in a couple years...but I think he is grittier and quicker. What hurt Locke was he was small and not very fast, and a bit lazy. Signing Desharnais is a very low risk move.

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11-06-2008, 09:55 AM
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Yvan Cournoyer says hi. 5'7", 178 lbs.

David Desharnais 5'6", 177 lbs.
Cournoyer was one of the best skaters of all-time.

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