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TRADE: Flyers trade Downie, Eminger & a 4th for Matt Carle & 3rd Round Pick

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11-07-2008, 08:06 PM
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Not trying to make this trade look better for the Lightning or anything because I did like Carle as a player but those comments do not reflect the true Lightning fan. They reflect puck bunnies and people who can't name a Lightning player besides Lecavalier and Andreychuk.

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I'd have been happier if they had traded Lupul for Carle. Lupul's a soft, one-way player whose laziness has really become apparent to anyone who watches closely. His only saving grace is his shot. I find him a very unlikable player and I think he's the next to go.

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Downie would never had a spot on this team anyway, John Stevens or not... Too many players coming up and they already have a very good set of wingers.

People on this board amaze me sometimes, most of you have been *****ing for a defenseman since the summer. Now that he gets a top 4 guy that cost us a 3rd pairing D and a current 4th liner wich would have never touched our top6 foward, maybe not even our top 9... You guys still keep yapping?

If we had not given a 1st rounder for Eminger, I bet he wouldn't even had made this team. He's been absolutely horrible for the Flyers, I was optimistic about him this summer but after seeing him a few times, hes just not good or Pitkanen stupid, one of the 2... Downie had his moments, like getting a 25 games suspension and sucker punching Jason Blake in the face, aside from that, not much. He's ok offensively but horrible in the defensive zone. Also religiously takes stupid penalties at the worst moments and gets out of position for a hit...

I guess I'm one of the few that likes this trade. Carle is a massive upgrade over Eminger, Alberts and Kukkonen. Hes also gonna be around for a long while unless hes what it takes to get Jay Bouwmeester at the deadline
There's actually a lot of truth with this post, minus the Bouwmeester part. Our defense has sucked massively lately, and we got a top 4 d-man to fill in the voids, when Jones and Parent come back I'm hoping they'll help out. Carle can generally move well but hit hard, at least what I remember about him, so except for price, which is only because I don't think he's proven his value yet, this is a decent trade and I think we got more back than a lot of people think.

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11-07-2008, 08:11 PM
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Not trying to make this trade look better for the Lightning or anything because I did like Carle as a player but those comments do not reflect the true Lightning fan. They reflect puck bunnies and people who can't name a Lightning player besides Lecavalier and Andreychuk.
Was he paired with a specific D partner this season?

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11-07-2008, 08:11 PM
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I'd have been happier if they had traded Lupul for Carle. Lupul's a soft, one-way player whose laziness has really become apparent to anyone who watches closely. His only saving grace is his shot. I find him a very unlikable player and I think he's the next to go.

are you talking about Jofferey Lupul, the same player who led our team in hits for a while last year?

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Someone needs to smack this host on WIP upside the head. He has no clue what he's talking about.

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Someone needs to smack this host on WIP upside the head. He has no clue what he's talking about.
fill us in

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Carle comes from playing on a good team in SJ and has learned a lot out there. I think he will come here and blossom. I would have liked to see more of Eminger, to be fair, but I appreciate Homer making the move.

I am a fan of Steve Downie when the board totes him up to god like status. The fact of the matter is, the guy has a weak stride, suspect hands, and a mental approach that could cost his team. He will never be fast enough to be on the top lines, and his hands could improve, but again, 2nd line MAX. You bring a player like him in for his determination, his grit, and his leadership. I realize he has been ****ed around a lot here, way too much, but this board has overvalued him. He has been successful at every level but there is a HUGE difference between AHL and NHL, and even more so with juniors and NHL. Another product of this faulty pushing is Giroux, who many said would win a spot on the team in camp and hasn't even been called up yet.

I'm not saying Downie or Giroux can't make it or won't be good players. I am just saying Downie was amped up way too much. You guys wanted him to be something he is not, and thats okay, but your expectations became reality.

Carle, on the other hand, had a great season and proved it at the NHL level. I am hoping he does it again. People can say he is overpaid, but many people said the same thing about Timonen, and look at what he has done. In a few seasons, Carle could turn out to be a steal at that price.

In other words, RELAX. Let the chips fall and leave the decisions to the people with actual professional hockey backgrounds. They know a bit more than we do.

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11-07-2008, 08:15 PM
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Someone needs to smack this host on WIP upside the head. He has no clue what he's talking about.
peculiar.

i think wip blows smoke out there ass most of the time anyway.

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"Matt Carle is a defensive defenseman"


This is the same guy last year who said power plays counts to your +/- and told a caller they were 'dead wrong' when he disputed him.

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He already had one.
he had a change of scenery from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst

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"Matt Carle is a defensive defenseman"


This is the same guy last year who said power plays counts to your +/- and told a caller they were 'dead wrong' when he disputed him.
So vote with your ears and change the channel. WIP is a shell.

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are you talking about Jofferey Lupul, the same player who led our team in hits for a while last year?
are you talking about a player we saw last year, who hasn't played the same this year, who really hasn't done anything spectacular this year?

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Al Morganti is coming on WIP "shortly" for anyone who cares.


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So vote with your ears and change the channel. WIP is a shell.
If they're actually going to talk hockey, I'll listen. The Minnesota/UNH game is taking precedence.


Al Morganti will be on soon, which will be even more enlightening.

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he had a change of scenery from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst
He still had one already.

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are you talking about a player we saw last year, who hasn't played the same this year, who really hasn't done anything spectacular this year?
That's the one, the one who along with 18ish other players on this team who are playing inconsistent, the one who is not soft...

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Start of conversation: Morganti is going to the House of Blues to see the Dropkick Murphys.

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Lol, Morganti is going to see dropkick murphy's.

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Al is on now and just admitted that he's intoxicated.

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Morganti: Flyers have been asking about Carle for a while. Six or seven weeks.

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All the words in the English language cannot describe how ****ing pissed the **** off I am right now. **** you, John Stevens, you ass clown muther ****ing *******. This seriously ruined my ****ing night now, because that wannabe ******* ****ing buried him. I hope he falls off a ****ing cliff.

**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****!

At least on the bright side, Downie will actually get to ****ing play normal ****ing minutes. And peace out Eminger.
Are you kidding me? Eminger has flat out sucked and Downie has never earned a spot. Nodl looks to be a much better player in just a few games. You do remember his ****ing flat out horrible decisions in the playoffs don't you? And please remember the fact that Steve Downie is a ******* on the same level as Boulerice.

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That's the one, the one who along with 18ish other players on this team who are playing inconsistent, the one who is not soft...
you mean the same one who's been called soft on his two prior teams, and lazy to boot, before only being able to play well with mike richards last year?

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Morganti doesn't think the acquisitions will be playing tomorrow. Not sure, because of physicals.

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