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11-07-2008, 09:11 PM
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Really? I don't think so. Higgins doesn't really have any hands at all. Lats at least shows flashes.
Hot flashes? Maybe he needs estrogen.

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From what I saw throughout the game, I'd rather have Steve Mason than Halak.
He very well could be. He was a 1st rounder I believe, so perhaps he should be. Either way, I'm being murdered in a pool I have where injuries aren't allowed to be replaced for some ******** reason and my goalies are Leclaire AND Brodeur!!! (oh yeah, Gaborik, Pitkanen and Zubov too- I have the worst luck).

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Have you seen Denis in the last 2-3 years?

Could we have won with Price in the game? Maybe, but who really knows.

Halak didn't play in a game for TWO WEEKS. Price hadn't played for ONE WEEK. I'd bet neither goalie is at the top of their game.

On a side note.. Halak has had a horrible start and a mediocre one.. both with very extended periods of time off.
Maybe you can explain us what good does Halak bring ? evry time he got tested in the NHL he failed... The only good game he has is when our defensive play a perfect game. Truth is he doesn't bring anything to this team while we have a proven NHL veteran goaltender in the minor. Gainey !

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What should I say anyway? You think I'm too negative....? Sure to say "OH LOOK AT THE GREAT TEAM WE HAVE! EVERYTHING IS SOOOO COOL AND SOOO GREAT! Halak played bad, BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT! LET'S JUST IGNORE IT AND PUT THE BLAME ON BAD LUCK!"

I analyse what I see. The easiest thing is to always be positive about no matter what we're talking about. I prefer being an objective supporter than a blind fanatic, thanks a lot.
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11-07-2008, 09:12 PM
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Gee, so you would say that Tomas Holmstrom and Ryan Smyth have good hands too?

Higgins gets most of his goals from standing in the crease banging in rebounds, and the odd wristshot. That does not mean he has good hands.
Higgins won't deke out many players, but he gets around 27-28 goals a year while being defensively responsible. He could still become another Jere Lehtinen.

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I chalk this one up to this crappy schedule.

Ten games in and we already had two 5 day breaks.

Hard to get a stride going when that occurs so early in the season.

I'm quite sure those breaks would be much nicer at game 45 or 50.

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i blame schedule

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11-07-2008, 09:13 PM
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From what I saw throughout the game, I'd rather have Steve Mason than Halak.
Steve Mason, while a 69th overall draft pick, has similar pedigree to Carey Price. Of course anyone would want him over Halak.

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From what I saw throughout the game, I'd rather have Steve Mason than Halak.
It's a no-brainer. Mason is promised to a great future, and has been for a long time now.

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11-07-2008, 09:14 PM
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Higgins won't deke out many players, but he gets around 27-28 goals a year while being defensively responsible. He could still become another Jere Lehtinen.
That's great, but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. We're discussing who has the better hands - Latendresse or Higgins.

I don't know how/why some people here got it in their heads that "having hands" is the same as being able to score goals. It's not.

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Maybe you can explain us what good does Halak bring ? evry time he got tested in the NHL he failed... The only good game he has is when our defensive play a perfect game. Truth is he doesn't bring anything to this team while we have a proven NHL veteran goaltender in the minor. Gainey !
Is this serious...?

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11-07-2008, 09:15 PM
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I question anyone's understanding of hockey if they think that's two bad starts in a row for Halak, he was hung out to dry in the Anaheim game, yes, tonight he allowed a weak one, but calm down.

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Columbus is in a good spot with with Leclaire and Mason....very similar to us with Price and Halak.

Disclaimer: Don't jump all over me and say that Halak is crap because just about everyone here thought that he was almost as good as Price up until the last couple of games. I put his less than stellar performances in the "He is rusty" category.

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Sloppy and boring game.

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He was fighting the puck all night long. You could just tell he was gonna fold at some point, and a shootout is just the ultimate test for a weak goalie. And yes, knowing Gainey, he would much prefer having an experienced backup, to a floundering rookie backup goalie.
Then why is Halak on the team and Denis in the minors.

Have you seen Denis since the lockout.

GAA of 3.25, 3.19, 4.05
Sv% of 900, 883, 859

There is a reason he didnt get an NHL contract this year.

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Steve Mason, while a 69th overall draft pick, has similar pedigree to Carey Price. Of course anyone would want him over Halak.
Mason's a good goalie but he was hardly challenged tonight. The shots weren't indicative of the scoring chances.

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Latendresse was awsome tonight... lol
Only guy with less time than Laraque.

Wow lots of people turning on a young goalie for something so ridiculous like the Habs losing against a team they didn't even try against. Remember the other year when Halak got hot and almost dragged the team into the playoffs? Ofcourse you don't because you only show up when someone isn't playing well.

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11-07-2008, 09:16 PM
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Laraque is absolutely useless.. we'd be better off playing Flinn $500K to do the same thing. Wow is he just atrocious.. I actually think I seen him walking!

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Brassard >> Latendresse
So what ?

Brassard >> near all the Habs

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Steve Mason, while a 69th overall draft pick, has similar pedigree to Carey Price. Of course anyone would want him over Halak.
What do you mean "similar pedigree"? Did he come from a family of goalies as well? (well i know Price's dad was a goalie).

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Only guy with less time than Laraque.

Wow lots of people turning on a young goalie for something so ridiculous like the Habs losing against a team they didn't even try against. Remember the other year when Halak got hot and almost dragged the team into the playoffs? Ofcourse you don't because you only show up when someone isn't playing well.
Of course it's way better to blame Latendresse because of the loss...

The main difference in this game was Mason playing better than Halak. The game has been decided there...

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11-07-2008, 09:18 PM
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That's great, but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. We're discussing who has the better hands - Latendresse or Higgins.

I don't know how/why some people here got it in their heads that "having hands" is the same as being able to score goals. It's not.
I agree, but Lats does not have better hands than Higgins. He might have a slightly better shot, but he can't hold on to the puck for more than 3 secs ffs.

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One of the guys on the post-game show just said that the habs usually start poorly and finish strong, but tonight they started strong and finished poorly.

We tied it in the final minute and out-matched the Jackets in overtime! How much stronger can you finish???

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Maybe you can explain us what good does Halak bring ? evry time he got tested in the NHL he failed... The only good game he has is when our defensive play a perfect game. Truth is he doesn't bring anything to this team while we have a proven NHL veteran goaltender in the minor. Gainey !
How about the 15 or so games two years ago when he led us into the playoffs with stellar performance.....

He has had ZERO defensive support his last two starts. He looked great at the start of this season as well.

He is a victim of lack of minutes.

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What do you mean "similar pedigree"?
2008 World Junior Championship Top Goaltender and MVP. While he doesn't have the Calder Cup win as well, thats a pretty similar resumeto Carey Price's junior success.

Yeah, I should have been saying resume, not pedigree, my bad.

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11-07-2008, 09:19 PM
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Maybe you can explain us what good does Halak bring ? evry time he got tested in the NHL he failed... The only good game he has is when our defensive play a perfect game. Truth is he doesn't bring anything to this team while we have a proven NHL veteran goaltender in the minor. Gainey !
Proven NHL goaltender whos GAA was over 4 last year and save percentage was under 850.

there is a reason denis didn't get an NHL deal.

Halak has been way better over the past three years; its not even close.

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