Nah, I think he'll try to destroy Lucy with an open ice hit some time...
He's a very bad open ice hitter...
Komi should and will continue hitting, blocking shots, clearing the front of the net... it's just that he might shut the **** up after the whistle... So far, he's been all talk and no walk... when he actually went for it... well you know the rest.
As for Lucic, it's very bad news for him now that he beat the crap out of Komi, his next step is BGL. If he runs one of our star players, he'll have to fight him... it'll probably take a year for that to happen (like Komi with him), but it'll happen...
I can't wait to see Lucic scared face each time he has to answer BGL... He'll talk **** like Komi did... but it can't go on forever... he'll have to answer the bell.
Komisarek didn't return on the ice , after the penality . Gagnon says today in his blogue that they take x-ray of the hand of Komisarek . Hope he didn't get injured .
I suspect it's going to be a long 48 hours or however long it is until the Habs play again. So let’s put last nights’ fight in the proper perspective before moving onto to what, if any, impact it will have on Komisarek’s “street cred” (whatever the **** that is).
It seems that some here and a few more on the Bruins board can't get their heads around a guy with size, who plays a physical game not being a great pugilist. It's been mentioned before, but it's worth repeating, guys who come up through the USHL and the NCAA are not accustomed to fighting. In those leagues you're ejected and sometimes suspended for getting into a scrap, to say nothing of the fact that full cages are mandated in both those leagues. Contrast that with the CHL (particularly the WHL) where fighting is only slightly less frequent than it is in the ECHL and the Quebec Senior League, which is to say, scraps happen all the time. That’s the starting point for our two combatants, so the result of their dust up should not come as a surprise to anyone with an IQ which exceeds room temperature.
I don’t have any problem with last nights clash it was inevitable. When two physical players battle through the regular season and in 7 brutal playoff games they build up some animus and some history which eventually has to be addressed. My only gripe is with Lucic’s conduct after the fight, which was bush league. If you challenge the opposition bench you have thrown down the gauntlet to every guy on the team, so if Laraque picks it up next Saturday, you’re obliged to answer the bell.
In terms of Komisarek’s “street cred” it has no impact whatsoever, Komi is not going to change a single thing about his game. He’ll still hammer forwards, he’ll still clear the crease, he’ll still block shots, he’ll still get involved in scrums and he’ll still run his mouth. If you think that the loss of a fight changes a players game then I really don’t know what to say to you, embracing such thinking advertises a proclivity to believe in anything. If you’d like proof, look no further than last night’s villain, Milan Lucic got tuned by both Tim Gleason and John Erskine and that definitely hasn’t stopped him from playing a very physical game.
People saying Lucic is one of the best fighters in the game; give your head a shake. Check his fight card. He's a big guy with skill, who does well against middleweights, but he's no heavy.
Lucic is 6'4" 220 lbs...How is he not a heavy?
Laraque is 6'3" 240 lbs...Bigger yeah, but hardly the mismatch you're making it seem.
Lucic should fight him. I don't see why not. If it's fine for him to go after a non-fighter what is the issue with him going after a good fighter? If he's a true competitor he should welcome the challenge.
As for Komsiarek, if anything, this will give him more respect for finally stepping up.
In terms of Komisarek’s his “street cred” it has no impact whatsoever, Komi is not going to change a single thing about his game. He’ll still hammer forwards, he’ll still clear the crease, he’ll still block shots, he’ll still get involved in scrums and he’ll still run his mouth. If you think that the loss of a fight changes a players game then I really don’t know what to say to you, embracing such thinking advertises a proclivity to believe in anything. If you’re like proof, look no further than last night’s villain, Milan Lucic got tuned by both Tim Gleason and John Erskine and that definitely hasn’t stopped him from playing a very physical game.
Good point. You think if Laraque caves in Lucic's face it's really going to affect his "street cred" at all? Of course not. Players lose fights all the time.
He lost a fight, no big deal. It was just so hyped up because of past run-in's. I give props to Kom for stepping up to the plate, especially because hes not a big fighter and probably knew he was going to lose.
I don't know why everyone is so upset over Lucic getting pumped after the fight. I thought it was good, the NHL needs more excitement like that. And I don't think he was challenging the Habs bench, he was just playing it up for the crowd.
So we drafted this guy almost a decade ago, and in those 10 years it doesn't appear to have occured to anyone that there might be some benefit behind teaching a 6'4 240 pound physical defensemen how to fight.
What was getting into a punch-in-the-face contest at center ice with Lucic going to prove in a 5-1 game? After Kovalev got dumped, he should of handled it like he handled Brashear a couple of years back... keep it close to the boards, get a good grip, take your shot if the opening's there, and go for the takedown. If he had done that, it would of killed the B's momentum, gotten Lucic upset for not being able to get a clear decision or even a clean shot in, and given Laraque free reign to take matters into his own hands if Lucic hadn't piped down.
Lucic is an absolute animal (in a good way). I wasn't a fan of the showboating after, but it just shows how intense he is. I would love to have this kid on our team. That being said, komi stood no chance against him. At least this happened when we were already down and the game was over. It would have been bad in a close game, we would have handed them momentum. Komi needs to be more worried about his defensive play, because it is extremely suspect right now.
Lucic is an absolute animal (in a good way). I wasn't a fan of the showboating after, but it just shows how intense he is. I would love to have this kid on our team.
This guy is a clown. He fails at life... He's an aberation. What he did after his fight was shameful. He doesn't respect his opponents, and I hope as hell we are not going to respect him next game. No matter what the player do, I want to see him suffer.
The best way would be Laraque beating the hell out of him on the faceoff without any warning. If the game is over scoring wise, I'd like this to happen.
This guy is a clown. He fails at life... He's an aberation. What he did after his fight was shameful. He doesn't respect his opponents, and I hope as hell we are not going to respect him next game. No matter what the player do, I want to see him suffer.
The best way would be Laraque beating the hell out of him on the faceoff without any warning. If the game is over scoring wise, I'd like this to happen.
Geez, Hamr, I'm scared as to how you'd react in real life situations. He fails at life ? Strong words.
The best way would be Laraque beating the hell out of him on the faceoff without any warning. If the game is over scoring wise, I'd like this to happen.
I'd be worried about Larague if I were you because if his previous fights this season (Thornton, Fritz) are any indication, he's the one that's going to get his ass handed to him if he messes with Lucic.
I'd be worried about Larague if I were you because if his previous fights this season (Thornton, Fritz) are any indication, he's the one that's going to get his ass handed to him if he messes with Lucic.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Komisarek just plain and simple isn't that great a fighter for a man his size. If he had played in the CHL rather than the NCAA it would probably be a different story, but plain and simple it's a skill he never really had a chance to develop. And personally, I don't want to see Komisarek fighting.
Lucic, on the other hand, is a great fighter. I think Komisarek did better than I thought he would until he lost his footing. A good fighter would have grabbed Lucic and wrestled him once the Lucic started getting the better of him. In a wrestling match, the edge would go to Komisarek. But plain and simple he doesn't have a fighter's mentality.
Lucic pump up at the end of the fight was embarrassing considering he wouldn't answer the bell against a guy who actually has fighting skills. I'll respect Lucic once he actually challenges guys with fighting skills on par with his own or better. He's a talented player, but if he wants to start fights, answer the bell against all comers, not just pick your spots.
In terms of the game last night, even a blind squirel finds an acorn every now and then.
And to contribute to the thread, I don't think this affects Komi's 'street cred' at all. He's big, he's nasty and generally, he does not cross the line. He's still an imposing figure and as a Sens fan, I hate playing against him and hope we sign him next year.
Larry Robinson was a big, imposing figure and then fought someone and was dropped but he was still one of the most feared and respected dmen in the game. Same thing will happen with Komisarek.
Komi should stop worrying about how his street cred is affected by him fighting or not fighting an overhyped glorified goon like Lucic* and concentrate on being an effective shutdown defenseman.
That he quite possibly got hurt and sunk Montreal's already none-too-deep defensive corps only emphasizes the point.
Let Laraque fight goons like Lucic. If Lucy won't answer the bell then, then he should be the one worried about his "street cred", if he cares. Komi has more important things to do.
*: Yes, this is exagerated. Yes, he has skill. Yes, I'd take him on my team, although with the criticism of Latendresse I wonder how he'd be received here. He's nonetheless overhyped and not the second coming of Cam Neely.
